I'm wrestling for a company that makes Clox look like ROH
 

Been meaning to post this since Saturday, whatever...

So I'm booked for one of their shows in March. They're a pretty crappy, 'cheap' company, but it's nearby and I'm not paying for the training sessions so I figured I'd do it, (I have eight years of wrestling experience, so I'm not an amateur or anything).

Anyway, there's mostly a bunch of kids there. I'm 24 and besides the owner I think I'm probably the second oldest person there. So there's no legit 'training', everyone just kinda does there own thing and gets in the ring to practice whatever. VERY unprofessional.

Here's the best bit:

There's two kids in the ring, probably about 15 years old. They're practicing a Spinebuster. First time looks decent enough. Second time they kinda cock up mid-move which forces the bumpee to land a bit roughly. I look at it as a simple fuck-up.

Anyways, the owner comes up to me and we start chatting and he tells me... wait for it...

'They're coming along pretty well. This is only their second week'.

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

It is Clox's calling in life to train these little future Botchamania stars.

so he's an optimist, so what if they blow ass, he looks at the good

you getting paid?

Nope. Hence the reason I don't 'train' by doing stuff I have no idea what to do.

Thankfully, the guy I'm wrestling has had pro training from a guy called Carsten Kretchmer (DLVH probably knows him), so at least I'm pretty sure we'll be having match of the night.

I'd come watch, but it sounds pretty awful. Are you working heel or face?

Not one of those Ian Rotten style promotions where 15 yr olds slash each others arteries w/ broken light tubes is it?

Pretty much, without the slashing etc. It's a shame, there are some talented, atheletic guys here, but then I look at the 'training' they've received and I just know they're all accidents waiting to happen.

HEEL!!!! I can't be a face to save my life!

Yeah it is pretty awful. But it's nearby, and I'm not wasting my money on the training sessions, so it's something to do really.

all i've noticed during indy shows as the difference between face and heel was the faces went around shaking hands with the audience and the heels didn't. it doesn't seem too hard :shifty:

Ram, can you include a bare-ass spot in your match? Please?

I wouldn't want to touch the hands of fans of backyard wrestling or this "indy wrestling" which is a small step above it. There isn't enough Purell in the world.

So I'm 26.....you calling yourself old makes me feel ancient....anyway...I didn't think it was legal to wrestle at 15....I remember going to a nearby show once and they wanted me to come back when I was 16. Of course I never did because I'm trying to go my entire life without breaking any bones.

i have this overwhelming feeling that you are full of it ram. Seeing as how I actually do some work for a small wrestling fed. There is NO WAY that 2 15 year old kids are there in the ring. It is a liability issue. even if they are the wrestlers kids, if they get injured in the ring then its a really big deal because they were injured on the property of the fed. Just saying, either you full of crap or the owner is a fucking retard and his company will go under the second some little kid gets injured because they are wrestling in his ring.

I don't think his company really cares about laws or rules to be honest.

Plus it is illegal to employ anyone under the age of 17 to a "violent entertainment" position. Wrestling in the ring is under said category.

Thats why pro wrestling is in the shits now. A teacher who has'nt had a cup of coffee in the business is teaching kids to bump on there second week? What happend to the chain wrestling? The reversals in chaining? Regular rolls, three quarter rolls? Storytelling?
Where is all that? Bumping should be one of the last things you learn. Im not shitting on your dojo but...damn dude. You have to do something about that.

what the hell is clox anyway

he lives in europe shithead

No. You could not be more wrong. The first thing you learn is conditioning. Running the ropes, chain wrestling, and more conditioning. Then weights. When you start wrestling school learning bumps does not start until 2nd year.

How would i know that.

learn conditioning? learn weights? shouldn't you get your ass in shape BEFORE attending wrestling school? i for one would be pretty pissed off if i paid $3000 and showed up for a lecture on how to exercise.

You just made that company's day by calling what they do professional.

Then you know nothing about wrestling school. Yes you should be in shape but wrestling is one of the most physical sports you can do ( aside from soccer) You would be surprised how many fat asses think they can just throw people around because they are bigger than everyone else. If you cant run against the ropes for 1hr straight without a break or water then you are not in shape enough to wrestle. That is what I and thousands of other wrestlers were taught by the great Jimmy Perez. Condition and mat skills are key to any wrestlers success. Then comes acting, mic skills, and bumps. You dont have to take huge bumps to be a great wrestler.

Guess what CSL. I do know what im talking about and I dont give a flying fuck with the hell you think you stupid piece of garbage.

LOL i hate to agree with CSL but you are most definitely full of shit.


please prove me wrong though by posting a video of you wrestling and showing off your superb conditioning and mat skills you learned from the great "jimmy perez".

So Ramm, I assume you will do the YouTube thread a favor and try and get the actual event on tape. It could be your defining TPWW moment.

Troll troll is troll

Hold on a second, ooTin has trained with Jimmy Perez?

Most likely not even him...

What year are you? Show me a tape.

Why is your experience so much different than Mick Foley's? He learned bumps from the start before ever learning anything else...seems like it'd make more sense to figure out if a guy can bump before spending a year "conditioning".

Back up your claims if you can, otherwise we're going to believe people we know for a fact are indie-level wrestlers.

He should've lost everyone with the bullshit about 1st year, 2nd year, etc. in wrestling schools.

Sounds like he's either completely lying or has been scammed.

And considering how many back-tard wrestling "companies" there are, his disbelief of 15-16 year olds wrestling is a joke.

Hell, the Brisco Brothers started in CZW at 15-16. It's retarded but quite common.

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

You could go a whole year of conditioning, only to start the second year and realise you don't like bumping and want to quit.

I've been thinking about applying for Lance Storms Academy which lasts two and a half months, which applies to newcomers and veterans alike. After two and a half months you'll certainly have the basics down, which include bumping. Are you saying Lance Storm isn't a good trainer?

FTR, I learned bumps on my very first training session, which is how it should be, since you're going to training to get a taste of the pro wrestling industry. We didn't do any big stuff until a few months into it though. The first few months were the basics, bumps, chain wrestling, body slam, suplex, strikes etc.

And btw I was partially trained by/trained with Dave Youell. After eight years I've never injured anyone, and the only injury I've ever suffered is a sprained arm.

But hey, you're right. I'm gonna spend $3750 Canadian just so Lance Storm can teach me how to run the ropes and lift weights. :y:

In that case I'm opening up my own wrestling school. Wrestling/bumps are taught year 3.

Yeah, age laws in this issue are different in Europe. I started training when I was 16, and made my debut when I was 17.

Every company is different though. Some companies only have 'legit' wrestlers, who are old enough and look the part, whilst others actually have matches with 12-year-old kids in them.

That is what this company is. One of the ones that have children. Although obviously the children don't mix it up with the grownups.

Year 1: Climbing into the ring
Year 2: Running the ropes and conditioning
Year 3: Bumps

WTF who the hell trains for three years before making their debut?! I sometimes try to defend ooTin on here and try to advise him to relax and people will like him more etc... but damn this is just retarded.