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parkmania 02-09-2011 06:31 PM

Guitar Hero DOA
 
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/pos...Franchise.html

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Activision/Blizzard announced it is dropping the in-development Guitar Hero game planned for 2011. The company is also disbanding its Guitar Hero division, best described by the company itself in the following statement:

“Due to continued declines in the music genre, the company will disband Activision Publishing’s Guitar Hero business unit and discontinue development on its Guitar Hero game for 2011."

Kalyx triaD 02-09-2011 06:39 PM

Buy GH, milk it to hell, kill it.

Yeah that sounds about right.

Blitz 02-09-2011 06:49 PM

Guitar Hero Dead On Arrival, 6 years after its arrival.

Kalyx triaD 02-09-2011 06:52 PM

I wonder if they recognize it nosedived because of their lulzy business model?

Emperor Smeat 02-09-2011 07:11 PM

They also killed off the True Crime reboot attempt, the DJ Hero series for at least a year, and Tony Hawk for at least a year as well.

Kalyx triaD 02-09-2011 07:14 PM

So sick of publishers.

Fignuts 02-09-2011 08:09 PM

Wait what? The new true crime is cancelled? wtf that was looking good.

Also, I am hoping for at least one more dj hero game, before it bites the dust. Love those games.

alvarado52 02-09-2011 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3426257)
Buy GH, milk it to hell, kill it.

Yeah that sounds about right.


BizarroKing 02-10-2011 12:01 AM

In all fairness it was starting to get a bit repetitive. Probably would have been better to download songs onto the existing games as opposed to releasing new ones every year or so...

Still, surprised it's done. Why not just take a break from it. Like I said, it seems like they released a new game every single year.

Kalyx triaD 02-10-2011 12:23 AM

They released multiple games a year. They made it repetitive. And for fuck sake Guitar Hero Van Halen?

And the ones who made the terrible decisions keep their job while the workers get fucked.

D Mac 02-10-2011 01:08 AM

Hopefully Rock Band will live on. At least in DLC.

Emperor Smeat 02-10-2011 01:10 AM

I think it was the Beatles version of GH that ended up being their money drain since they spent a lot for the songs but the sales couldn't match up and Activision lost a lot of money. The original plan might have been to use the huge sales from GH Beatles to fund the next 1-2 titles but it never happened.

One reason True Crime got axed ended up being too many delays and Activision not wanting to fund the project for a game that kept moving its release date window.

D Mac 02-10-2011 01:11 AM

Meatball, The Beatles game was from Rock Band.

Tom Guycott 02-10-2011 01:32 AM

To be fair, I think he may have meant Metallica. Personally loved it, but the sales on that one were lackluster.

Of the music genre decline, I really feel for Power Gig. FINALLY, someone develops a game where you actually have a stringed axe, and it's too little, too late.

Emperor Smeat 02-10-2011 02:00 AM

Whoops, yeah mixed up the games.

It was the Beatles for Rock Band and GH 5 along with the Metallica edition that bombed badly compared to what was paid for the rights of the songs.

Funky Fly 02-10-2011 02:06 AM

What killed the Beatles game was making it a separate game. People would have shelled out big for Beatles DLC.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-10-2011 09:57 AM

Yeah and Green Day Rock Band didn't sell like they thought it was going to.

G 02-10-2011 10:05 AM

I bet if Beatles came with an import code then it would've sold more. That was the only reason why I bought Green Day instead of Goozexing it.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-10-2011 10:14 AM

It was probably deemed to expensive to re-do the songs without the psychedelics.

G 02-10-2011 10:17 AM

Nah, I am sure it had to do paying the Beatles more money. I dunno what the video effects have to do with the audio track and note chart.

Shaggy 02-10-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3426354)
Wait what? The new true crime is cancelled? wtf that was looking good.

Also, I am hoping for at least one more dj hero game, before it bites the dust. Love those games.

They canned that as well.

D Mac 02-10-2011 02:16 PM

Hopefully Metallica will get back into Rock Band!

Kalyx triaD 02-10-2011 04:46 PM

YES

Kane Knight 02-10-2011 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BizarroKing (Post 3426673)
In all fairness it was starting to get a bit repetitive. Probably would have been better to download songs onto the existing games as opposed to releasing new ones every year or so...

Still, surprised it's done. Why not just take a break from it. Like I said, it seems like they released a new game every single year.

Like already said, this was repetitive because they made it repetitive by releasing fifteen titles a year.

However, I'll point out that neither abandoning the net game nor disbanding the current team means we won't see another GH title in a couple of years.

....Though Activision being fuckheads probably does mean that.

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Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD (Post 3426692)
They released multiple games a year. They made it repetitive. And for fuck sake Guitar Hero Van Halen?

And the ones who made the terrible decisions keep their job while the workers get fucked.

GHVH Was one of the most requested side titles.

...Though with Metallica beating it out and selling poorly should have been hint enough.

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Originally Posted by Funky Fly (Post 3426760)
What killed the Beatles game was making it a separate game. People would have shelled out big for Beatles DLC.

Remember, though, the problem of artist control. I'm pretty sure the spin-off decision involved controlling the songs, including who sang them.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-10-2011 05:59 PM

Not True Crimes! Nooooooooo!

D Mac 02-11-2011 01:11 AM

I thought GH Metallica did very well.

D Mac 02-11-2011 01:12 AM

You know, since they are the greatest band in the world.

Super V 02-11-2011 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball
One reason True Crime got axed ended up being too many delays and Activision not wanting to fund the project for a game that kept moving its release date window.

More publishers should start doing this.

Kane Knight 02-12-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by D Mac (Post 3427935)
I thought GH Metallica did very well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by D Mac (Post 3427936)
You know, since they are the greatest band in the world.

You'd think it would have sold a lot more if that were true. :)

Kane Knight 02-12-2011 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by G (Post 3426980)
Nah, I am sure it had to do paying the Beatles more money. I dunno what the video effects have to do with the audio track and note chart.

RB3 DLC can no longer be played on prior titles due to lighting cues and video effects. At least, that's the reason given.

DaveWadding 02-12-2011 10:52 PM

I remember buying GH5 and selling it at a profit while getting the free Van Halen disc and then selling THAT. Win.

G 02-12-2011 10:56 PM

I remember getting GH5 and VH, exchanging the GH5 for another GH5 because the guitar didn't work, and getting a 2nd VH.

LoDownM 02-12-2011 11:01 PM

Gotta admit, when I saw this threads title, I thought there was going to be a Dead of Alive themed GH.

parkmania 02-13-2011 07:20 PM

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LoDownM 02-13-2011 07:49 PM

I was talking about the fighting game lol.

parkmania 02-13-2011 10:00 PM

Oops.

Kane Knight 02-13-2011 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by parkmania (Post 3430384)
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I love Audiosurf.

Kane Knight 02-22-2011 09:15 AM

So anyone see the bit from Activision Co-Founder Alan Miller where he says it wasn't Activision bleeding GH to death that was the problem, but rather the shift to a DD market?

It's bullshit for a lot of reasons, but it was funny.

  • He says it's hard to get casual gamers to buy a 100 dollar guitar. The problem being there are 42 quadrillion in circulation right now, and people still use first gen XBox controllers. Even if you take "casual" to only mean "farmville crowd" and "BDC," The games shouldn't sell as poorly as they did because there's an install base that's past that entry barrier. Even a lot of casuals, because GH was a party franchise for years before it stopped being "cool."
  • Switch to Digital Distribution was fully within their grasp. Rock Band has 2600 songs. Activision dicked around with this, but until WoR, they didn't really do it well. And it took them like two games just to export Metallica. Why? They weren't serious about digital.
  • And more proof they weren't serious about DD? They put out like 25 games in a year. That content could have been delivered digitally and taken advantage of the a la cart nature. Not to mention it's cheaper for them. But they wanted more titles. They wanted to push more instruments. They wanted to sell you stuff.

Kalyx triaD 02-22-2011 03:16 PM

Activision pretty much no cred concerning why GH failed, being the guys who failed it. And we talked about how they have released their game's soundtracks as DLC for years now. It seemed like common sense, but they had other plans.

Really wish somebody would call them on their shit when they're interviewed.

Emperor Smeat 02-22-2011 04:27 PM

A few people from the studio they fired said the real reason was Activision envisioning every game being a billion dollar revenue producer (or at least the main games) even during the year they pumped out too many games. Activision is also a company that favors the quick mega sales over the slower gradual sales but that was due to CoD being soo easy to reach multi-million status.

The same ended up happening to Tony Hawk but that was over a much longer period of time than GH/DJ Hero series.


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