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Big stars that didn't draw
Name some big, popular stars that never really drew.
I've always heard Sting's name tossed around in this conversation, as well as Steamboat. Agree/Disagree with these? |
Jeff Jarrett
Arn Anderson Rick Rude Brian Pillman Taz Scott Steiner Vince Russo |
Triple H, he always feuded with the wrestler that drew, don't be fooled.
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Sting and Steamboat both drew. Obviously Sting in 96/ 97 ends that argument.
Now you can argue that Flair was on the opposite side of the ring when both of them were on top in 89/90. But Still, both were draws as babyfaces. To answer the question, Kevin Nash was a big failure in 95, but the business was in the shits, so it wasn't really his faut. Same could be said for HBK. Barry Windham wasn't really a great World Champion in 91 Luger was a big draw in WCW, but he never really had it in WWF. Big Show never really made an impact in his early WWF run. He's more of an attraction then a draw. Vader is another one that was a draw in early 90's WCW, but not so good in WWF. |
RVD. I am pretty sure once he got to WWE never drew, but was just popular with the IWC.
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rey mysterio
owen hart eddie guerrero sid the million dollar man ted dibiase |
Dunno about RVD, he's too modern/was champion in an era where the champion isn't relied on to draw. I think this goes for the business as a whole from maybe early 2000's onwards with rare exceptions that could be discussed, stand out one being Cena.
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Sometimes I wonder if Bret Hart was that big of a draw? I mean with the exception of Stone Cold feud and HBK, the guy barely seems memorable. His world title runs are forgettable, he known more for getting screwed and his feud with Austin than anything else. When he was World Champ his main event was hardly ever the best part of the card, someone else usually stole the show....am I wrong here?
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yea, not going to get into an argument on who was more popular. I don't consider Jericho a crusier/luchador/whatever. just a dumb comment to say Rey is/was not a draw. really can't take you seriously when you mentioned Anderson, Pillman, Steiner and Rude. don't know if you saw how over 3/4 of those names were in Crockett/early WCW
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I wasn't making a case for RVD as a draw in WWE, I was just saying that it wasn't just the IWC that loved the guy.
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Then by your own definition, Rey Mysterio is absolutely a draw.
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I'll give you Owen because he only had really one good main event program |
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Hell yeah RVD was popular, but did the 12,000 plus people night in and night out come out to see him, or was he just a bonus? |
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there's maybe 10 guys that are on the "selling out arenas" platform. lets just name them and call it a thread if we are using that as the standard for being a draw
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Bret Hart absolutely was a draw especially outside of the US. In fact Bret Hart is one of the biggest international draws of all time
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Is Europe in Canada?
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Bret Hart, although I'm sure half the forum will get their panties in a knot defended this although it's true.
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His international fame is proof positive that he was a draw |
David Arquette in terms of what WCW or Russo had hoped he could draw in money, outside exposure, and viewers away from WWF but none of that occurred. Then again a lot of late-WCW champions could fall under the same category.
I think Eddie Guerrero didn't draw well as a champion considering how he felt his first reign was a failure for making money although Vince never blamed or punished him and the quality of the feuds were a bit lackluster (ex. vs JBL). RVD is another but he barely had the chance due to his stupidity and also WWE not capitalizing when he was hot during the Invasion feud. |
I think that the majority of big stars did not draw.
I mean... I can only think of Jerry Lawler. I know that he has been known to be an "artist". |
JBL and to a lesser extent Booker T.
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:rofl: I see what you did there |
Jeff Jarrett, JBL & Booker T are the only ones to come to mind.....
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Lash LeRoux drew as well, but I wouldn't classify him as a "big star".
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Ron Simmons as WCW World Champion didn't draw as much, so WCW booked him in matches before the main event, which usually featured Sting.
Booker T and Scott Steiner as World Champions in WCW were cases of too little, too late. Vampiro didn't do well in WCW, because he didn't really push himself, despite help from Sting. Mike Awesome in WCW was a clusterfuck, because they gave him gimmick after gimmick. |
not to get any panties in a knot but Bret was an international draw. He drew the foreign markets better than Hogan.
Shawn Michaels didn't draw anywhere as much as Hart did during his run. Now panties should be getting bunched up. |
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