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MoFo 03-03-2011 11:10 PM

Sonnen wants Bisping
 
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In an e-mail to UFC matchmaker Joe Silva, Chael Sonnen made his plans clear for his comeback fight -

To: Joe Silva, Matchmaker Extraordinaire, Ultimate Fighting Championship
Re: Spitsbing & his tainted victory

Joe:

If you get a chance to talk with him, please mention to your idiot-in-residence Michael Spitsbing it’ll be a little tougher to knee ME in the head when I’m charging at him like a runaway train and mincing him through the fence like a boiled potato, should we ever have the pleasure of each other’s company for a few (VERY few) moments in the Octagon.

Oh; and I’d suggest to him being a little careful about spitting on any of MY cornermen, since any one of them can beat him up as badly as I can. Thanks ever so much. Hope all is well.

-Chael Sonnen

Trash talk would be lulz, but pretty sure Sonnen would smash him.

CSL 03-03-2011 11:16 PM

The heat would be amazing and I'd be pulling so hard for Bisping but yeah, pretty sure Sonnen would just lie on him for 3 rounds, Bisping's wrestling isn't gonna come close. lol @ him having the balls to call anybody out though. Already seen a bunch of American's getting jacked up about Sonnen potentially smashing him elsewhere online, they'll cry about Bisping trash talking and winding people up but failing drugs tests, cheating and money laundering are a-ok :y: Almost hope it does happen though, you know Bisping would be right up for it.

NoJabbaNoBogRoll 03-04-2011 08:37 AM

I would be rooting for Sonnen in this one.

I really can't stand Bisping.

Savio 03-04-2011 09:27 AM

I would hope they both lose

Innovator 03-04-2011 10:46 AM

Everytime Bisping talks trash, I remember this fight and smile:

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IC Champion 03-04-2011 01:34 PM

Sonnen dosn't really derserve Bisping, Bisping is a win away from a title shot, and Sonnen recently got caught cheating. I think he should work his way back up, and prove himself, before getting a fight with a title contender.

Funky Fly 03-04-2011 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Instant Classic (Post 3451417)
Sonnen dosn't really derserve Bisping, Bisping is a win away from a title shot, and Sonnen recently got caught cheating. I think he should work his way back up, and prove himself, before getting a fight with a title contender.

Basically that. Failing a drug test should send you back to the bottom of your division.

Reavant 03-04-2011 02:37 PM

LOL bisbing's head would explode.... he couldnt handle rivera making a few videos talking trash. Sonnen is going to take it 10 levels + beyond that.... i really wanna see it happen.

Reavant 03-04-2011 02:43 PM

plus bisping doesnt have what it takes to crack the top dogs in his weight class. Hes beaten dan miller, akiyama and rivera. Bisping is only a fight away from a title shot IF he can beat a top fighter like sonnen, marquart, okami, wanderlei, maia etc....


Bisping is the best of the lower level fighters. Sonnen beating him doesnt really advance him much.

IC Champion 03-04-2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3451504)
LOL bisbing's head would explode.... he couldnt handle rivera making a few videos talking trash. Sonnen is going to take it 10 levels + beyond that.... i really wanna see it happen.

It's really the only reason to make that fight. Bisping will probably end up fighting Wanderlei or Belfort.

Reavant 03-04-2011 03:46 PM

they would probably make this fight to punish bisping

IC Champion 03-04-2011 03:57 PM

Dana won't punish him like that, he needs Bisping to to help sell PPVs in the UK. Hardy got a title shot after beating a few nobodies. Dana still has alot invested in the UK market.

Reavant 03-04-2011 05:29 PM

He doesnt need bisping to sell for the UK anymore... are you serious? Most of all the fans over there dont like him anyway.

IC Champion 03-04-2011 05:30 PM

Either way, he's slowly becoming a draw for the UFC regardless if people hate him, or like him.

IC Champion 03-04-2011 05:36 PM

And the UFC probably doesnt need Bisping for the UK, cause they sell out no matter how shitty the card is. Hate watching the UK cards.

Reavant 03-04-2011 05:37 PM

and the amount of trash talk hyping the fight is going to be the biggest draw he would be able to muster up in his entire career

HeartBreakMan2k 03-05-2011 01:14 PM

I don't think Sonnen deserves the fight after the cheating thing; that being said I do think he'd absolutely wreck Bisping.

Reavant 03-05-2011 03:09 PM

why doesnt he deserve the fight? Its not like a win over bisping would propel his career back to title contention. Him fighting bisping is really a lose-lose fight for him in terms of advancement. If he actually loses, its horrendous for him but if he wins it really does nothing for him. The only people that win are us watching the prefight talk and bispings mental breakdown after the fight.

IC Champion 03-05-2011 03:26 PM

Why give someone who got caught cheating, and then comitting fraud, what they are asking for?

CSL 03-05-2011 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3452403)
why doesnt he deserve the fight? Its not like a win over bisping would propel his career back to title contention. Him fighting bisping is really a lose-lose fight for him in terms of advancement. If he actually loses, its horrendous for him but if he wins it really does nothing for him. The only people that win are us watching the prefight talk and bispings mental breakdown after the fight.

What? Sonnen lost his last fight on top of being caught cheating and pretty serious legal problems, I'd say he's lucky to still have a job let alone having to work his way back up a bit. I like a good heel, a trash talker, somebody that hypes fights etc but Sonnen is pretty much a piece of shit, his actions away from the octagon tell you that. Somebody on Bisping's current level is probably the exact kind of guy he should be fighting. Bisping beats him, he gets a shot. Sonnen wins, he fights somebody else on his supposed level like Okami, Marquardt etc for a future shot, especially if Silva does wind up fighting GSP. Only negative is if he loses. You Yanks get so butt hurt and wound up by Bisping that beating him can only do his rep/character the world of good. I think Sonnen knows this also, hence him calling Bisping out and making ridiculous comments every 5 minutes.

Reavant 03-05-2011 03:57 PM

soooo what did you say that was any different than what i said?

Reavant 03-05-2011 04:01 PM

Im not denying sonnen being a giant pile of shit. Im responding to people saying he doesnt deserve a crack at bisping like hes some top tier fighter in line for the next shot. Bisping will never be a top guy unless he changes A LOT of things. so again what didnt you understand?

CSL 03-05-2011 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3452403)
Him fighting bisping is really a lose-lose fight for him in terms of advancement.

This. If he beats Bisping, it could potentially do more good for him than fighting just about anybody on earth. My reply was a pretty long version of that sentence.

Reavant 03-05-2011 04:20 PM

look at it from a matchmakers point of view... it still does nothing in terms of advancement. Sonnen wants another crack at silva. A win over bisping doesnt put him there. He would still have to fight one or two times against better guys to get back where he wants to be.

So outside of entertainment, bisping is a limbo fight for him... if he wins.

Reavant 03-05-2011 04:24 PM

If bisping were as elite as he THINKS he is, he should want this fight. A win for him here helps him more than anyone. He not only beats a heavy favorite, but also someone who the american public pretty much hates. We're talking immediate title shot if he pulls it off.


However, I think bisping is pretty weak in the head given his display in the octagon with rivera and even against hammil. I think he will go insane if sonnen starts to lay into him, and wouldnt be surprised if he does something along the lines of paul daley if he loses.

CSL 03-05-2011 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Reavant (Post 3452468)
look at it from a matchmakers point of view... it still does nothing in terms of advancement. Sonnen wants another crack at silva. A win over bisping doesnt put him there. He would still have to fight one or two times against better guys to get back where he wants to be.

So outside of entertainment, bisping is a limbo fight for him... if he wins.

Surely money would be a big factor from a matchmakers point of view with the hype they'd create. I'd be looking to give Sonnen the hardest road back possible with Bisping just being the 'first obstacle' but despite his perceived weakness, the Americans will still pay to see somebody beat him. And it will do wonders for Sonnen's character. And Bisping needs a 'top tier' opponent before getting near a title shot which despite Sonnen being a cunt, he obviously is. I just see it as win-win for everybody, they both stand to shit out from losing but I'm sure they're both prepared to take the risk.

Reavant 03-05-2011 04:33 PM

well thats the thing... if bisping loses but its a decision and he doesnt freak out, it doesnt set him back any further than it is.

The fight being bad for bisping depends on his actions once the fight is over... if sonnen loses he might as well quit.

So immediately sonnen has way more to lose than bisping

CSL 03-05-2011 05:51 PM

And so he should. He's lucky to still be given a chance to fight. If he hadn't just given Anderson Silva the fright of his life/wasn't 'a name', I'm guessing there's a decent chance they'd cut him depending on how his legal troubles go.

Nark Order 03-05-2011 06:02 PM

All of this Sonnen cheat talk. So are we ignoring that Bisping intentionally kneed a downed opponent last fight? Is that not cheating as well? Not to mention that he spit on the corner man after the fight as well.

CSL 03-05-2011 06:12 PM

There's a bit of a difference between doing something stupid when you're 'fighting for your life' (and the spitting aside which is just sinking to their level, if what the Wolfslair statement said was true about Rivera and his camp which I don't see why they'd lie considering Bisping has always mugged people off before fights and then been professional afterwards, I don't blame Bisping for treating them like utter cunts) and purposefully and knowingly taking illegal performance enhancing drugs for god knows how long in a bid to gain an unfair advantage over the competition.

Nark Order 03-05-2011 06:18 PM

You're right. There is a difference. The difference is that Bisping could've killed Rivera with a knee like that.

CSL 03-05-2011 06:29 PM

I'm not saying he should have done it (although I think 'could've killed Rivera' is a bit strong since kneeing a downed opponents head is legal in plenty of places, I doubt the effects are much worse than a perfectly placed punch) I'm saying I can see how somebody could make that mistake. Bisping could have lost the fight for it and deservingly so, he couldn't and shouldn't have had any complaints had that happened and Rivera deserves credit for continuing. Your first comment seemed to be character driven. Bisping winds people up for fights (and as the Rivera fight showed, may be susceptible to the same thing) Chael Sonnen is a straight up A+ piece of shit no matter what angle you're looking at it from.

Kris P Lettus 03-05-2011 06:46 PM

I agree with Inno on Bisping.. Used to like him when he competed on TUF and when he first came out, but when he was coaching TUF he became a huge prick.. Hendo taking his head off was in my top 3 mma mark out moments of all time..

CSL 03-05-2011 06:53 PM

That's exactly the same, buying into everything he's saying and even more so in this case because Henderson is 'your boy'. Of course people can like and dislike who they want but that season of TUF (like most others) was one big hype job for the fight. Only interview I've seen since with Bisping about the Henderson fight, he had nothing but nice things to say.

Reavant 03-05-2011 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 3452563)
You're right. There is a difference. The difference is that Bisping could've killed Rivera with a knee like that.

shut up...


oh wait... I forgot about all the deaths in pride

MoFo 03-05-2011 09:00 PM

Dont everyone act like a prick on TUF tho?

All the coaches do, whether its Bisping or Pulver.

Krimzon7 03-06-2011 02:14 AM

First of all, didn't sonnen get cleared by the board? The suspension got reduced, and he made a farce out of that hearing with his inept nuts.

Secondly, If Sonnen is worrying about a fight, shouldn't we assume he has found a way to wiggle off this hook? Sonnen is a politician and a salesman: Pretty much one of the scummiest fuckers on earth. If anyone can beat the charge it's Chael.

IC Champion 03-06-2011 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3452668)
Dont everyone act like a prick on TUF tho?

All the coaches do, whether its Bisping or Pulver.

Pulver wasn't if I recall.

Stickman 03-06-2011 01:41 PM

So Sonnen is not going to prison?

CSL 03-06-2011 05:21 PM

He's gonna plead out, cut a deal for no jail time apparently.


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