UFC 128: Shogun vs Jones
 

How do you feel about the card? I obviously am hoping Jones to come out champ. Another match that sticks out for me is CroCop vs Schaub. I feel CroCop is on his way out and if he loses this one he should hang it up.

Kinda wonder why Shogun is a huge underdog right now. I'd have a huge chip on my shoulder if I were Rua

Probably because of the way Jones has won his fights, and that before beating Machida Rua had been very inconsistent.

He's 19-4-1. He lost his debut and an arguable decision to Machida. Not really missing much on that resume.

Jones is 12-1 (should be undefeated), but has less credible wins.

Don't get me wrong, I think Bones wins; but the line is way off.

I like how Bonnar avoids mentioning his name at first about losing to Jones:

http://www.mmaconvert.com/2011/03/04...or-shogun-rua/

WTF at the Shogun being inconsistent comment..

He was the man in Pride and it's pretty well documented that he was hurt coming into the UFC..

Pretty sure Shogun wins this with Jones putting on a good show..

You don't even watch MMA do you? He lost to Forrest and then had a very mediocre performance against an over the hill Mark Coleman. Whice you are right that injury and a long lay off played a factor, something similiar to the situation coming into this fight.

He won the Coleman fight and still had a bum knee..

I see Jones having a huge adrenaline dump.. Shogun has been to the dance..

I'm really not disagreeing with you, so much as trying to point out why Shogun is the underdog in the fight. I think Shogun should be favored, and I have him winning. Jones just hasn't been in there with a guy of Shoguns skill and caliber.

Akiyama is out due to the tragedy in Japan, and Dan Miller is taking his spot.

I am looking forward to this fight because of Eddie. I grew up with him and he still lives in town. I am from Chesterton, Indiana. I wrestled with him pretty much from middle school - high school. I can even say I beat him in a wrestling match!! (granted it was when I was like 12 lol) The only other guy I know that fights for the UFC is Darren Elkins(from Portage, IN and also wrestled w him, also his wife is friends with my exwife) and he has only faught on Fight Nights and got hurt before his last fight.

Anyways what do you guys think of him? I have followed him pretty close as you can imagine. His last fight had a crazy knockout. He had a pretty nice sized party at a local bar the next night. I think the Faber fight is going to really challenge him. Eddie is great at stand up and can def throw some knock out punches. It is going to be interesting if it goes to the ground.

I just wanted to see what others with a objective view think about him and this fight

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Wanna see this card so bad. Going to a close friend's birthday party instead tho.

Thank god, means Marquardt can actually win now.

If Marquardt didn't beat Akiyama he should have called it a career.

What?

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/lozito.html

Semi-related. Also, holy shit!

Hes an absolute choker and I thought he'd get KO'd by Akiyama, is wat I was getting at there. Dan Miller isn't much of a threat tbh.

Seriously? Shogun is a world class fighter and you're saying he is inconsistent? Gtfo. Bones hype train ends here, via submission

Just because you're world class doesn't make you incapable of turning in poor performances.

Let me put it this way, if the same Shogun that fought Forrest and Coleman shows up, he's going to get murdered.

One, that was years ago, two, he was injured. Dude is healed, he has an excellent game from his back, and is a deadly striker. Holding someone's questionable performances from years back against them as a champion is crazy.

I will accept the "he may be rusty" and the "bones size will give him trouble" argument, but highlighting two sad performances and ignoring his excellent wins against quality opponents is just lame

As you stated he was injured. Do you not see any similarities between 2-3 year ago and now? I wouldn't really call Coleman or Liddell at the point in his career in retropect a quality oppenant, with all due respect to Chuck he was done at that point. He did destory Machida though, but has since been out injured for almost a year. I actually see Shogun winning, I'm just saying why Jones is favored.

Don't discount Bones skill and reach.

To call shogun inconsistent because of his showings against forrest and coleman is ridiculous especially since he showed everyone that he got back to the form he was in during PRIDE where he fought for years without a single bad performance.

Now will he return from this injury as strong as he was when fighting machida? thats the question.

However I feel bones has an edge because he is so fucking crazy with his offense. He has outstanding wrestling and if you stay standing he will throw crazy ass shit at you. My question is whether shogun has seen it all and if hes such a veteran that he will make bones pay for taking chances.

I hope Marquardt is the last fight before the co-main event. He'd make a nice piss break/ booze refill.

Holy shit Schaub! Havent seen a come from behind like that in a while.

knocked the fuck out

stream?

iiiiiiiit's tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime

So far I got Cro Cop and Schaub for fight of the night and Schaub for KO of the night.

Definitely looking forward to the earlier start times for the next PPV.

Let's go Bones

Bones Jones is looking good so far. I believe that if Jones pulls off the win he could name a number for his endorsements. He'd be the UFCs most marketable talent in terms or appealing to mainstream companies like Nike.

Perfect ending for the Jon Jones ride.

Believe the hype.

Jones dominated him. That guy is a beast.

he thanks jesus christ most of all for helping him beat the shit out of someone

Rashad is scared

Shogun just stood in front of him really, and got picked apart. Looked tired after the first round too.

Rashad is fighting Bones next! Damn thats fucked up how the ufc is doing this in the ring after the kid just won the title.