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#1-norm-fan 05-31-2011 01:29 AM

Michael Cole needed/needs a legit face turn...
 
Watching Raw and the interaction between the two just feels odd and distracting. I thought about this a few times during the feud but as heated as the feud was "Cole loses then apologizes" just doesn't wrap it up right. Hearing Cole laugh at Lawler's jokes while they act friendly for the most part just doesn't seem genuine.

It's an odd situation. Most feuds can just kinda end and we move on. But other feuds don't require the two to interact weekly afterward like this.

I'm thinking Lawler needed to not accept the apology and for Cole to keep trying to get it. Then one of the lesser used heels picks a fight with Lawler over something leading to a one-off match. During the match, the heel goes to use a chair on Lawler and Cole makes the save.

I mean, they aren't gonna continue with Cole's heel character it would appear. At least that would have put a nice, neat little end to the tension as opposed to "I'm sorry" and Cole laughing at Lawler's jokes like they suddenly like each other.

SlickyTrickyDamon 05-31-2011 01:34 AM

No.

#1-norm-fan 05-31-2011 01:37 AM

Good point.

I've changed my mind. Michael Cole needs to turn from heel to uber-heel.

Lock Jaw 05-31-2011 01:41 AM

Yeah, something like that could have been good. But honestly, if they just continue to act like it never happened, then in a few weeks it will be totally normal for Cole and King to get along.

#1-norm-fan 05-31-2011 01:47 AM

It probably will. I'm just a fan of definitive endings to feuds. For some reason, it just feels right now like Cole is messing with Lawler and plotting something. It just seemed like saying "Sorry" after such a heated feud and just forgetting about the dead mother references and evil-ness of Cole is a cop-out.

He could have saved Lawler, shook hands, then gone back to being his "innocent, harmless heel announcer" self even. Proclaiming how beautiful Vickie Guerrero is and such.

Mr. Nerfect 05-31-2011 01:58 AM

I haven't watched RAW, but on SmackDown! Cole still seemed like a heel. It just seems that they're trying to move him out of the spotlight. He seems to be picking on Josh Mathews a lot, too. I don't want to see annoying face Cole again, but I think his "I'm not a bad guy anymore" shtick could be used to get him even more heel heat down the line.

Personally, I'd still move Cole out of commentary. Have him attach himself to a young, struggling guy, and offer his services to help them out. Of all the babyfaces on the RAW roster, Chris Masters and Evan Bourne are the ones who come to light. Masters would make sense, because Cole has spoken very highly of Masters, even as a heel. Bourne is feuding with Jack Swagger, which could allow Cole to play off Masters.

Have Cole offer his "years of broadcast journalism knowledge of the business" to Bourne, and his inside knowledge of Swagger's training to help Bourne out. Bourne is all "I dunno, man," but Cole more and more forcefully helps out Bourne. This can lead to Bourne selling out and joining Cole; Bourne just having enough and snapping on Cole, which leads to Cole finding another heel to feud against Bourne ("Someone who actually WANTS to be a star!") or Cole turning on Bourne and re-aligning with Swagger while they do victory laps.

Emperor Smeat 05-31-2011 01:59 AM

He probably wont stop being a heel until the RAW finally has a GM since him reading the messages and being "close" with the GM generates a lot of his weekly heat. As well as, him no longer rooting for a couple of heels he likes such as The Miz, Del Rio, and a few others.

#1-norm-fan 05-31-2011 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 3537858)
He probably wont stop being a heel until the RAW finally has a GM since him reading the messages and being "close" with the GM generates a lot of his weekly heat. As well as, him no longer rooting for a couple of heels he likes such as The Miz, Del Rio, and a few others.

That's kinda what I said in my last post. I think he could have done the thing where he saves Lawler and still be a heel commentator... just in a more innocent, heel cheerleader manner. All while keeping an unspoken respect with Lawler so it doesn't get awkward.

SaskatchewanChamp 05-31-2011 02:44 AM

In the end, does it really matter what the fuck you want?

No.

#1-norm-fan 05-31-2011 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaskatchewanChamp (Post 3537881)
In the end, does it really matter what the fuck you want?

No.

Exactly. Who gives a fuck what people want! That's why there's no such thing as a message board.

Wait...

teamXtremist 05-31-2011 06:30 AM

yeah nothing like someone calling out ur dead father then acting like it never happend

Londoner 05-31-2011 07:49 AM

Cole really wouldn't work well as a face now imo.

#BROKEN Hasney 05-31-2011 08:41 AM

I stopped downloading all WWE TV and PPVs purely so I didn't have to listen to Cole and his annoying "I'm a 5 year old with ADD and I'm gonna shout over everyone" schtick.

That'll show WWE, not watching their programs illegally due to their shitty commentary.

Sycophant 05-31-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamXtremist (Post 3537966)
yeah nothing like someone calling out ur dead father then acting like it never happend

Was his dead mother, but you have the right idea. I also agree that a face Cole will NEVER work until the anonymous GM thing goes away.

Gertner 05-31-2011 02:15 PM

Cole needs to be back as a heel.

Shadrick 05-31-2011 02:15 PM

You are the worst poster ever.

With that said, heres some rep because I'm Tazz Dans brother.

Wishbone 05-31-2011 03:10 PM

Honestly Cole has gotten to a point where I just really can't stand him anymore. When he first started the heel thing I was really into it but he's just gotten so damn annoying that at this point I just want him gone from my tv. He's basically using the same material week in week out and his voice now just grinds at my soul like nails on a chalkboard.

MoFo 05-31-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 3537845)
No.


MoFo 05-31-2011 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TL (Post 3537980)
Cole really wouldn't work well as a face now imo.


MoFo 05-31-2011 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3538156)
Cole needs to be back as a heel.


#1-norm-fan 05-31-2011 03:55 PM

Okay.... "face turn" was a bad choice of words. I said that in the past two posts but people are jumping from post one to reply obviously. lol

He needed a face-turn like moment. Like the thing I explained with Lawler. After that, he would go back to being his "commentator-style heel" self as opposed to full-on heel. Kinda like he was on commentary last night.

XL 05-31-2011 04:01 PM

He should join Punk's stable.

Jordan 05-31-2011 04:37 PM

I think it's fine the way it is, did you happen to miss the part where Cole kiss King's foot? He's humiliated and embarrassed, he kinda put "his foot in his mouth" in a way. I don't see how you don't clearly understand what happened and how it is okay for them to move on and work together. Cole was shut down, Lawler won, Cole admitted defeat and then back off. That's real, so big fucking deal, you don't like it, eat a dick.

#1-norm-fan 05-31-2011 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 3538350)
I think it's fine the way it is, did you happen to miss the part where Cole kiss King's foot? He's humiliated and embarrassed, he kinda put "his foot in his mouth" in a way. I don't see how you don't clearly understand what happened and how it is okay for them to move on and work together. Cole was shut down, Lawler won, Cole admitted defeat and then back off. That's real, so big fucking deal, you don't like it, eat a dick.

lol. That was the bitchiest thing about the most trivial issue I've heard in a while.

MICHAEL COLE AND JERRY LAWLER ARE FINE THE WAY THEY ARE!!!! IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT, EAT A DICK!!!

Jordan 05-31-2011 06:19 PM

Just adding some flavor, clearly one that you prefer.

#1-norm-fan 05-31-2011 06:34 PM

I enjoy strawberry


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