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Splaya 06-16-2011 03:08 AM

NHL 2011 Off Season Thread
 
Congrats to Boston. Tim Thomas deserved it...

What's your team needing heading into the offseason.

Wings will have about 15 million to spend

RaginRonic 06-16-2011 06:31 AM

Any hopes of Candian repatriation of the Stanley Cup dies last night. No Canadian NHL franchise will EVER AGAIN hoist Stanley over their heads. We can't do it up here due to inferior quality talent. All the players with passion and heart play in the U.S. We need those players to play on Canadian franchises to have a chance to repatriate Stanley properly. We cannot cause Gary Bettman won't fucking allow it.

You watch...all 7 of our NHL clubs will be whittled down to Zero by 2031. No point of Canada's clubs trying to win a Cup, cause they've been cut off.

And that is harmful to the league, in terms of competitive balance. Period. D-8<

Londoner 06-16-2011 06:33 AM

Nice overreaction, Ronic.

Londoner 06-16-2011 08:53 AM

And if Vancouver fans are gonna riot every time they don't win the final, they can forget getting any sympathy. Bunch of whiny rioting tossers.

Gertner 06-16-2011 10:26 AM

My Leafs have a ton of money. They've already re-signed Gunnerson and Reimer.

They need the following:

#1 center
Puck moving defenseman
Back up goaltender

YOUR Hero 06-16-2011 10:26 AM

Those weren't Canuck fans, those were idiots. some of whomn wore Nucks jerseys. The cops should have went on a tasing rampage.

Gertner 06-16-2011 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronic (Post 3554263)
Any hopes of Candian repatriation of the Stanley Cup dies last night. No Canadian NHL franchise will EVER AGAIN hoist Stanley over their heads. We can't do it up here due to inferior quality talent. All the players with passion and heart play in the U.S. We need those players to play on Canadian franchises to have a chance to repatriate Stanley properly. We cannot cause Gary Bettman won't fucking allow it.

You watch...all 7 of our NHL clubs will be whittled down to Zero by 2031. No point of Canada's clubs trying to win a Cup, cause they've been cut off.

And that is harmful to the league, in terms of competitive balance. Period. D-8<

That is completely retarded.

YOUR Hero 06-16-2011 10:27 AM

Hoping the Canucks go after Shea Weber. And can somehow move Luongo.

LoDownM 06-16-2011 11:30 AM

Doesn't he have like 11 years left on his contract? Even if they wanted to trade him, a lot of teams won't want to touch that contract.

IC Champion 06-16-2011 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoDownM (Post 3554445)
Doesn't he have like 11 years left on his contract? Even if they wanted to trade him, a lot of teams won't want to touch that contract.

*Cough*Philedelphia*Cough*

If Luongo hits the trading block, there will be teams lining up to make offers, even if he is overrated and overpaid.

IC Champion 06-16-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3554388)
That is completely retarded.

Except the part where teams loaded with Canadians win every year. You ain't gonna win anything with two of the softest players in the league, sorry aint gonna happen. Not that you need Canadians to win, but you certainly need to play with passion and heart, something Canadians do have when it comes to the game of hockey.

IC Champion 06-16-2011 02:25 PM

Anyways.

The Canadiens need some size up front, preferably a big center, but there don't seem to be many that will be on the market, so any size up front will do. Hopefully someone in the front office gets some sense and buys out Gomez or ships him to the minors, but one things for sure, you can't pay him over 7 mil to produce 31 points and only 7 goals, and be a -15 for the season. I mean I could see if he were a plus player, then there would bringsome value to the team.

We also should offer Markov much less money, or let him walk. He's injury prone now, and will be asking for too much condering over the last two season he's only played in 45 and 7 games. We were more than fine on the back end without him, and once Gorges is healthy we will have one of the best blue lines in the league. Instead keep Wiesnewski and maybe Sopel. That will also free up some cash for the a big forward.

IC Champion 06-16-2011 02:28 PM

I mean, we really don't need Markov. We were without our two top defenceman and still made the playoffs and almost beat the team that won it. We've got plenty of depth back there, and we need more playing time for PK.

Gertner 06-16-2011 03:10 PM

2 captains were european
3 leading scorers were european
Boston's leading scorer among d men was a euro as was Vancouvers

IC Champion 06-16-2011 04:40 PM

And two of them were the Sedins, and didn't do anything in the finals.

IC Champion 06-16-2011 04:40 PM

And incase you hadn't notice, points don't always translate to wins, or tell the sign of who's the better player.

IC Champion 06-16-2011 04:43 PM

Not to mention if you look at Bostons roster it's like 80% Canadian.

OssMan 06-16-2011 06:07 PM

NHL off season thread
NBA Off season thread

Emperor Smeat 06-17-2011 01:28 AM

Bruins using the same duck boats for their championship parade this Saturday that was initially made famous by the 2004 Red Sox parade but this time given a custom yellow and black paint job.

Maple Leafs picked up another draft pick (conditional 2nd Round) from the Bruins due to them reaching the Stanly Cup finals. It doesn't matter now if Kaberle resigns with the Bruins since the pick will stay with the Maple Leafs.

Should also be interesting to see what the Capitals do this offseason since they've become the "Sharks" of the East the last few years in the playoffs.

Stickman 06-17-2011 08:39 PM

First of all, Luongo is going nowhere. He's the best goalie in franchise history hands down, vezina trophy finalist and took his team to Game 7 of the finals, so shut the fuck up with that talk.

Secondly, the Canucks are 5-1 favourites to win it next year. They just need to stay healthy and find a bit more grit and they'll be fine.

YOUR Hero 06-17-2011 10:03 PM

The Canucks need a top tier Dman.

parkmania 06-18-2011 12:43 PM

The Pens need to get healthy, and Paul Martin actually needs to show up. Apparently Malkin is fired up and wants to push himself to win the scoring title next year. Even if he falls short of that, it'll do him good to have a goal - he was kind of lackadaisical most of the time last year.

Nicky Fives 06-18-2011 07:48 PM

Canadiens have already fucked up by signing Kostitsyn..... I hope they tank it, get that troll of a coach fired so Kirk Muller can take over.....

Sean 06-18-2011 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronic (Post 3554263)
Any hopes of Candian repatriation of the Stanley Cup dies last night. No Canadian NHL franchise will EVER AGAIN hoist Stanley over their heads. We can't do it up here due to inferior quality talent. All the players with passion and heart play in the U.S. We need those players to play on Canadian franchises to have a chance to repatriate Stanley properly. We cannot cause Gary Bettman won't fucking allow it.

You watch...all 7 of our NHL clubs will be whittled down to Zero by 2031. No point of Canada's clubs trying to win a Cup, cause they've been cut off.

And that is harmful to the league, in terms of competitive balance. Period. D-8<

LOL what a dumbass

...

We're going to have some money to spend, more if Savard retires. I'd like to see the Bruins get another goal scorer and a defencemen. Word on the street is they're not going to sign Kaberle or Ryder unless they take pay cuts and might just replace them with Caron & Kampfer and not spend on the fa market. Going into next season we're looking at:

Lucic - Krejci - Horton
Marchand - Bergeron - Peverley
Caron - Kelly/Seguin - Kelly/Seguin
Paille - Campbell - Thornton

Chara - Seidenberg
Boychuck - Ference
McQuaid - Kampfer

Thomas
Rask

I'm pretty content with the forwards. A lot of youth & speed there and if Seguin continues his development the B's could have a handful of 20 goal scorers on the team. Before I typed this out I was confident in the defense but now that I'm looking at it in front of me, I'm a little worried that it could be the Achilles heel of 2011-2012. I can see Claude splitting up Chara/Seidenberg against deeper teams but those bottom two pairings aren't spectacular. Goaltending is all set obviously.

Evil Vito 06-18-2011 09:49 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Can't see there being too many changes for the Islanders. Most of the impending free agents don't seem to fit. Getting a young guy like Tomas Fleischmann or something to fill in on the 2nd or 3rd line would be fantastic, but probably a pipe dream. Can't see the Avalance not re-signing him. Even if they didn't, if health is no issue the Isles will surely be outbid.

I wouldn't be averse to grabbing a veteran leader type of player like Mike Grier or Rob Niedermayer to fill out a spot for a year (unlikely as vets tend to want to go to teams that may have Cup aspirations), but for the most part if they sign anybody they should try to get younger guys who may actually stick around for the rebuild.

Either way, next year will be all about getting Tavares, Grabner, etc. some more seasoning. They played great in the second half so if they can build on that getting a lower seed playoff spot is always a possibility, but they're still very much in a rebuild mode.</font>

Skippord 06-19-2011 12:03 AM

I think the Avs need a goaltender and a couple D-men

and also to resign Flash

Gertner 06-20-2011 12:37 PM

lol Paul Statsny is comin to Toronto.

asphyXy 06-20-2011 08:19 PM

Rangers need Gaborik to wake up. He needs to return to the 40+ goal scorer he was just a year ago.

Rangers need a powerplay. Went 1 for 21 on the PP in the Caps series. That series would've been an even matchup if our powerplay did something.

We planned on buying out Drury, but now he's pretending to be injured which makes him ineligible for a buyout. With the salary cap increase, it shouldn't be much of a problem for us, but it might make Brad Richards (our main target for the past six months) too expensive to sign on July 1st. I'm on the fence about Richards. 31 years old, just had a concussion, and he will command a huge contract for a long period of time. It'd be a typical Rangers signing, and I'd hate to see Richards get a No Movement Clause and be stuck with him underproducing later in his Rangers career (a la Drury).

Derek Stepan's rookie year was impressive, and if he works on his faceoffs, he could become the #1 center that we've needed since Nylander left. Stepan worked well with Gaborik when that line was given a chance. It's just a question of who would play the left side on his line.

Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
XXXX-Stepan-Gaborik
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust
Avery-XXXX-XXXX

Fill in the blanks with whoever proves themselves out of training camp (Zuccarello, Grachev, Hagelin, Thomas). If we re-sign Prospal, I could see him playing a reduced role on the 4th line, with the occasional bump up to Stepan's line. He looked very slow last year.

We still have Christensen, but I'd love to see him gone. Very inconsistent, only useful for shootouts, and his overall attitude is one of low confidence. On the other hand, Wolski is a talented winger that would be a star player if he just got faster and worked on his stride. Turns out, he's getting a skating coach and will work on his skating this off season. If Wolski turns a corner with this skating coach, pencil him in on the Stepan-Gaborik line (unless they go ahead with the plan to buy out Wolski for cap space).

If we sign Richards, everything gets shifted. Our lineup could look something like:

Wolski-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Stepan-XXXX
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust

Oh, and our defense will be set for a long time.

Staal-Girardi
Sauer-McDonagh
Erixon-XXXX

If we re-sign Gilroy, put him in the #6 spot. If not, re-sign Eminger, bring up Valentenko, Del Zotto (he'll come back with a vengeance), or Kundratek, or sign a veteran D man as a stop gap until one of our prospects is ready.

KleptoKlown 06-21-2011 12:07 AM

Bieska wants to and will re sign with the Nucks, Ehrhoff, I am not so sure about...Would be great to get rid of Ballard(he's a good dman, just not worth the 4.5 million cap hit, as he doesnt fit in with the Nucks system) That money saved pretty much guarantees we can get Ehrhoff back. I still dont know about that though, and getting Bieska and Ehrhoff seems like mission impossible.

Salo will re up at a discounted rate, or he will go to the Red Wings. Either way, he's too old to go to a rebuilding franchise, so he's going to sign on a team he thinks can win the cup. He's made his money, he wants a ring...

I WISH we could trade Lou...I am not blaming him for the cup loss, as it was the whole team that broke down in that series...but the Nucks made it to the finals in spite of Lou, not because of him. He is such a night and day, a Jykell and Hyde goalie. I would prefer some consistency instead of a flip of the coin when it comes to our goalie. IF IF IF Lou can be traded(He has a NTC, so it would have the be an Eastern team like Philly if they dont get Brygzalov or TB if Yzerman does bite...) Schneider deserves a chance at #1, Lack is looking like he could be a #1...but just to be sure, the Nucks should grab a discounted veteren like JS Gigure or Marty Turco to be the back-up. The cap hit won't be great, but the influence would be amazing.

Alberts at his 1.5 million cap hit...so long. He's not a bad dman, but when you're counting nickles and dimes...it matters. Tanev at less than 1mill is ready to be an every day dman.

I hope they can get Torres back. He;s is going to be worth more on the FA market, but hopefully he can see this team needs him and its his best chance at a cup.

Higgins...Deadline pickup, he did his job...good luck next year year.

Glass...Admired you're heart, but you're not a cup player, even on the 4th line.

I hope they can keep Hansen, but I feel like he might get an offer sheet. He's a lot better than a 3rd line grinder. Kind of the same idea as Grabner...wont really be able to show off his talents unless its with a non playoffs teams top 6.

Stickman 06-21-2011 01:17 AM

Salary cap going up $5m Canucks will sign who they want.

Every team wants a number 1 dman, few teams get them. Hamhuis and Beiksa were a great top pair.

As the saying goes, "you don't know what you have until it's gone," and with Lou we have a world class goalie, you get rid of him you might as well bring back Dan Cloutier.

KleptoKlown 06-21-2011 01:20 AM

Ehrhoff and Edler are as good a 2nd pair as any...Salo and Tanev would be a great 3rd pair(seasoned vet passing on his knowledge to the next generation.)

LoDownM 06-21-2011 02:22 AM

Jagr wants to come back and play for the Pens or Red Wings. Wouldn't mind him coming back to the Pens as long as he doesn't want some stupidly high contract numbers.

YOUR Hero 06-21-2011 10:12 AM

Jagr looked good in the world championships. But I did notice he's playing with his head down a lot more.

Stickman 06-21-2011 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YOUR Hero (Post 3559146)
Jagr looked good in the world championships. But I did notice he's playing with his head down a lot more.

He should be able to get away with that in the NHL now as guys aren't allowed to hit.

Sean 06-21-2011 09:39 PM

Fuck off. They're fine as long as the hits aren't high and they don't leave their feet, OBVIOUSLY.

LoDownM 06-21-2011 10:04 PM

Probably well known all ready, but the move from Atlanta to Winnipeg was approved today.

http://winnipeg.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=566556

Sean 06-21-2011 10:14 PM

I really hope this works out. Winnipeg's getting a second chance and it's better for hockey to have more Canadian based teams. Next on the agenda is the realignment...better not fuck that up.

LoDownM 06-21-2011 10:17 PM

I think they'll move Nashville to the Southeast and put Winnipeg in the Central division.

Stickman 06-22-2011 12:23 AM

Realignment after this coming season.

LoDownM 06-22-2011 12:56 PM

Yes, I know that.


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