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Hunter 07-06-2011 05:51 PM

WWE used "piped crowd sounds" for Stephanie McMahon when she was the Smackdown! General Manager?
 
Been reading lots of arena reports and reviews from around that time and a lot are saying that Stephanie McMahon was really receiving little to no crowd reactions at all, but it was mostly piped crowd pops that the WWE used to make her seem like a mega face.

Is this true?

I always watched Smackdown on Thursday nights and I never watched it live, so I can't say if this is true or not. Her character was pretty interesting and she was mega hot looking in her own unique amazon womanish way. But I do think a lot of her in ring segments and promos were a tad bit boring and dry.

I do remember a lot of people complaining back then about the McMahons dominating TV, but that was probably mostly smarks, the general population in the arena seemed to like her.

What are your thoughts? Did you guys watch it back then or get to watch any events live around 2002-2003?

HBPunk 07-06-2011 05:54 PM

Well it was never live and Smackdown use the piped crowd sounds today too. You can recognise them immediately. Its an irritating noise kinda like a big group of people squealing

HBPunk 07-06-2011 05:55 PM

Stef was a terrible face too so i dont doubt it

Xero 07-06-2011 05:58 PM

SmackDown! has had piped probably since it started, I'd think. But I really started to notice it 2002-2003.

I wonder if they piped in cheers for pre-taped shows in the 80s-mid 90s. I wouldn't put it past them, but I never noticed it.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-06-2011 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3571935)
SmackDown! has had piped probably since it started, I'd think. But I really started to notice it 2002-2003.

I wonder if they piped in cheers for pre-taped shows in the 80s-mid 90s. I wouldn't put it past them, but I never noticed it.

Hmm yeah never thought about it, but it definitely seems like they did. I know crowds were hot back then but it always struck me as odd that Virgil and Sparky Plugg got the same pop as Bret Hart.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-06-2011 06:02 PM

PROLLY CUZ BRET WAS SO BORING

HBPunk 07-06-2011 06:05 PM

Virgil had more fans than Bret though

Testicle 07-06-2011 06:09 PM

Steph was so hot in '02-'03, probably got some decent reactions. I wouldn't doubt the E doing it though.

Also, Sparky Plugg was fucking over.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-06-2011 06:10 PM

nah think crowds were just super positive back then

Xero 07-06-2011 06:11 PM

TNA does this so terribly. I was watching the opening segment with Sting and Bischoff the other day and the crowd was clearly fucking dead. Yet, the cheers were about on par with double what the Impact Zone could ever hold.

Tazz Dan 07-06-2011 06:11 PM

This weeks Raw had the worst piped in cheers I've seen for a while, especially during the Cena/Vince segment

seapig4 07-06-2011 06:59 PM

Every major organisation has used the taped cheers I think. I seem to remember WCW doing it loads with the Goldberg chant's.

Anybody Thrilla 07-06-2011 07:05 PM

I remember attending a Smackdown taping around the time when Steph was feuding with Vince. They had some backstage interview with her that felt like it lasted about twenty minutes. The crowd in the arena was going BALLISTIC with boos and "BORING" chants. It actually looked like people were walking out of the show, and there was still like an hour left. It was hideous. I never got to watch the airing of it, so I don't know how it translated on TV, though.

Hunter 07-06-2011 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3571991)
I remember attending a Smackdown taping around the time when Steph was feuding with Vince. They had some backstage interview with her that felt like it lasted about twenty minutes. The crowd in the arena was going BALLISTIC with boos and "BORING" chants. It actually looked like people were walking out of the show, and there was still like an hour left. It was hideous. I never got to watch the airing of it, so I don't know how it translated on TV, though.

I know exactly what you are talking about and it was just AS BAD on TV. They cut it down to about 10 minutes, but was still horrific.

Couldn't she of at least shown off her tits or something? Would that of even saved it?

Sorry if i'm being offensive, but staring at Steph's mug with her f**cked up hair cut and fake tears while she talks about stuff no one cares about for 10 consecutive minutes literally killed my soul and my penor.

Anybody Thrilla 07-06-2011 07:20 PM

Yes, that definitely sounds like the same segment. I doubt it was actually 20 minutes, but that's what it felt like.

Juan 07-06-2011 07:24 PM

Never really cared for face Steph, especially SD GM Steph.

Cool King 07-06-2011 07:46 PM

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/JXEuFreVC5g" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Cool King 07-06-2011 07:49 PM

I first noticed them on SmackDown around two years ago when I started watching SmackDown regularly.

It was really annoying watching SmackDown after I noticed them, but now I don't really notice it as much. Though the cheers were annoying on Raw on Monday. Most probably because I'm not used to hearing them on Raw.

Aguakate 07-06-2011 07:52 PM

...WWE uses piped crowd sounds everytime John Cena's music hits, and I don't care who says otherwise.

Anybody Thrilla 07-06-2011 07:54 PM

The piped crowds don't really bother me too much. I can form my own opinion on the show without basing it on how the crowd is reacting. What's the big deal? Wrestling is fake.

Cool King 07-06-2011 07:54 PM

Actually, when I think about it, I feel like the piped in cheers made Raw come across as cheap and "tacky". I was thinking to myself as I was watching Raw that it felt different.

I didn't feel like I was watching Raw. :-\

MoFo 07-06-2011 07:56 PM

God I fuckin hate that piped heat, its been happening ever since Smackdown started cuz I remember some real bad jobber matches with huge pops back in the day....all with the same horrible screaming you hear today.

They use the same stock footage of the crowd some weeks too lol

Xero 07-06-2011 08:04 PM

lol yeah. I remember someone posted a thread a while back about him showing up at a show despite the footage being 2 years old or something.

Xero 07-06-2011 08:05 PM

http://www.tpww.net/forums/showthrea...hlight=footage

Cool King 07-06-2011 08:06 PM

Here's a decent example of the piped in cheers.

Slam Master J vs Charlie Haas. (SmackDown - 8/7/09)

Slam Master J's entrance on TV

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EvTLcPX1tFY#t=14s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Slam Master J's entrance live

<iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0vnW7Es-Xqc#t=28s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

captaincharismark 07-06-2011 09:02 PM

I wouldn't doubt the WWE would do something so deplorable, especially to make a McMahon look good on TV. The only time I think Steph was legit getting cheered is when Jericho trashed her. Other than that, her biggest pops were all off camera...

St. Jimmy 07-06-2011 09:07 PM

http://0.media.sportspickle.cvcdn.co...8c6a6c77e2.jpg

Juan 07-06-2011 09:08 PM

Deplorable, he says.

Aguakate 07-06-2011 09:09 PM

LOL "deplorable" is a bit harsh...

HBPunk 07-07-2011 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguakate (Post 3572015)
...WWE uses piped crowd sounds everytime John Cena's music hits, and I don't care who says otherwise.

Dont be so fucking stupid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 3572018)
Actually, when I think about it, I feel like the piped in cheers made Raw come across as cheap and "tacky". I was thinking to myself as I was watching Raw that it felt different.

I didn't feel like I was watching Raw. :-\

I agree yeah, thats another reason why i cant watch smackdown, that same irritating squeal cheer is really horrific. Makes everything come off cheap

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-07-2011 02:38 AM

There's also more wrestling on the show than Raw. I guess you have to take the good with the bad.

HBPunk 07-07-2011 02:48 AM

thats not good really though. If i ever do record sd i fast forward thru most matches. how can i give a shit about them if they only build up randy orton and one or two others? not fucked watching it if i dunno who im watching

Hunter 07-07-2011 10:23 AM

Here's a good example, what do u think?

<iframe width="960" height="750" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4vOdcwbmw5I" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Hunter 07-07-2011 10:28 AM

<iframe width="960" height="750" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/azVPfwPYE18" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Kane Knight 07-07-2011 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3572017)
The piped crowds don't really bother me too much. I can form my own opinion on the show without basing it on how the crowd is reacting. What's the big deal? Wrestling is fake.

Just seems kinda...Pointless to even HAVE a live crowd.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-07-2011 12:46 PM

I don't have a problem with the idea of piped cheers. If they want to fake it to make the shows seem more exciting then go for it. Nothing wrong with that.

What bothers me is the crappy/lazy production of them. It should be at least somewhat difficult to tell the cheers are fake. But if they use the same sound each time, we're gonna notice. It wouldn't be that difficult to get the crowd to cheer before the show started when theyre all reved up and excited and record that to use later.

Xero 07-07-2011 12:49 PM

Well, I'm sure the few clips they have (probably less than ten) are balanced for insertion. But it's not like they don't have thousands of hours of footage to draw from. Even if you just consider the HD ones, that's still hundreds of hours to draw from.

They really should sit down and compile like 100-500 different cheers to draw from.

Anybody Thrilla 07-07-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3572440)
Just seems kinda...Pointless to even HAVE a live crowd.

Digital crowds are the wave of the future, and you'd be foolish to think otherwise.

Supreme Olajuwon 07-07-2011 01:51 PM

I can't remember when this was, but I could swear that one time I saw a video package featuring the Rock/Foley empty arena match and they piped in cheers when Foley won.

Anybody Thrilla 07-07-2011 01:52 PM

Maybe there was just a piped cheer in his theme music.


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