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Xero 08-26-2011 02:07 PM

One Sin Cara to rule them all
 
From PWInsider:

In an update from my earlier story on Sin Cara, WWE sources are indicating that the original Sin Cara (Mistico) was sent home from the Calgary Smackdown taping after meeting with WWE officials. Going forward, it is expected Hunico will exclusively portray the Cara character.

Everyone I have spoken to expected the artist formerly known as Mistico to depart WWE, but nothing has been 100% confirmed on that front.

Innovator 08-26-2011 02:08 PM

0 for 1

screech 08-26-2011 02:09 PM

I prefer Hunico.

XL 08-26-2011 02:14 PM

Did this need a new thread?

JUS' SAYIN'

Anybody Thrilla 08-26-2011 02:14 PM

This is good news, I think.

Cuse8 08-26-2011 02:14 PM

anyone else tired of the sin cara drama?

Xero 08-26-2011 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3613411)
Did this need a new thread?

JUS' SAYIN'

Didn't notice the other thread.

If a mod sees fit, may as well combine them.

Innovator 08-26-2011 02:15 PM

Hunico will do just fine as Cara

Anybody Thrilla 08-26-2011 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cuse8 (Post 3613413)
anyone else tired of the sin cara drama?

I've found it all to be pretty easily avoidable, really.

Aguakate 08-26-2011 02:17 PM

This would be kind of a failure for HHH, since he was the one who signed and brought Mistico over...

...it'd be like his first loss or something.

To avenge this, of course, he'll probably book himself to win the WWE Title or something.

Anybody Thrilla 08-26-2011 02:32 PM

How is Mistico fucking up Triple H's fault?

Aguakate 08-26-2011 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 3613425)
How is Mistico fucking up Triple H's fault?

It's not his FAULT, but since he was the one who signed him, and was "grooming him", it could be viewed as some type of "loss" for "The Game".

Anybody Thrilla 08-26-2011 02:39 PM

No. It's a loss for Mistico. Signing him wasn't a bad idea. It's just unfortunate how things turned out. I couldn't see anybody looking back at this and thinking that Triple H "lost" anything.

Triple Naitch 08-26-2011 02:48 PM

It's unfortunate. I had high hopes for him. Mistico is a great wrestler, but some guys just aren't a fit in the WWE-style of wrestling.

GD 08-26-2011 02:48 PM

http://absolutelytrue.com/wp-content...ck-o-meter.gif

Nicky Fives 08-26-2011 02:50 PM

Sin Cara #1, the best of luck in your future endeavours.....

:wave:

LuigiD 08-26-2011 02:52 PM

Pissed about this.
Saw Mistico perform live before and it was great. Got excited when he came over to WWE. Like Triple Naitch said tho, I guess the guy isn't cut out for WWE. Between the Wellness Policy Violation and the heat he gets backstage..I guess it was only a matter of time.

XL 08-26-2011 02:54 PM

How will they handle the "Future Endeavoured" post on WWE.com?

Triple Naitch 08-26-2011 03:07 PM

He really should have spent some time in FCW like Del Rio did.

Emperor Smeat 08-26-2011 03:08 PM

Definitely was a bad idea to rush Mistico onto the main roster instead of taking the time needed to let him learn the WWE style although I wonder if Rey's constantly getting injured ended up being a factor in rushing him to the main roster.

Hunico benefited a lot from the extra development time and low expectations than Mistico.

:( looks like no chance of a Sin Cara #1 vs Sin Cara #2 feud is going to be happening any time soon.

Captain of Fun 08-26-2011 03:16 PM

Wait, if Hunico was the one botching like mad on tuesday, then why are they sending Mistico home?

This is dumb. I've seen Mistico perform. He's better than Hunico. I just think like other people have said, he was rushed in too fast. The mexican style, and even the WWE ring is very different. Not mention going from wretling guys around his size, to wrestling guys almost twice as large has to take some getting used to.

imo, they should just send him to FCW, because he's too good a talent to let slip through the cracks. Eswpecially if these cruiserweight division rumors are true.

GD 08-26-2011 03:28 PM

I know. Confusing.

screech 08-26-2011 03:29 PM

Think he leaves or spends time in FCW? Maybe comes back under a different mask if they don't want to do Sin Cara Mirror Match?

KIRA 08-26-2011 03:36 PM

This might be a dumb question but can Sin Cara sr. go back to being Mistico if hes let go? I mean the masks of Sin Cara and Mistico are similar

Ultra Mantis 08-26-2011 03:39 PM

Seems like the reported botchfest was Mistico vs Slater so they decided to re-do the match with Hunico in his place.

GD 08-26-2011 03:45 PM

Hunico versus Heath Slater
<iframe width="560" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EPC2ppBV7dE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Lock Jaw 08-26-2011 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRA (Post 3613481)
This might be a dumb question but can Sin Cara sr. go back to being Mistico if hes let go? I mean the masks of Sin Cara and Mistico are similar

Actually been wondering about that too. What are the legal ramifications of WWE having a masked wrestler with a "look" created by Mistico? Does WWE now own the trademark of the design? Will Mistico need an entirely new mask/look in Mexico?

GD 08-26-2011 03:47 PM

Mistico versus Heath Slater

<iframe width="420" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MOvY3s8L4IM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Sycophant 08-26-2011 03:48 PM

Well, I am sure they had to pay the original Sin Cara a boatload of money to come to the WWE. If they can get the same result out of a much lower paid wrestler, why not go for it. The original Sin Cara was a great wrestler in Mexico, but he had a very tough time adjusting to the "American" style of wrestling. All in all, it's all about business and Hunico was making significantly less than Cara I would be willing to bet. The WWE is going to come out on top regardless. They put so much press into his arrival and that "Mistico" was coming to the WWE as Sin Cara. I am sure that his release will not be anywhere near as publicized. Therefore, many people are still going to assume that it is "Mistico" under the Sin Cara mask. The old bait and switch.

Mr. Pierre 08-26-2011 03:50 PM

If the send-home is true, then that sucks. I bet WWE would have been a lot more patient with him if he didn't fail a test and then proceed to publicly speak about it negatively.

I remember reading how high Rey was on him and how he really wanted him in WWE, etc. But oh well, this new guy seems to be pretty good and more than likely wouldn't be dumb enough to plead innocent after failing a drug test.

Rammsteinmad 08-26-2011 03:53 PM

Is that new Senton/Lionsault thing Sin Cara's new finisher? I swear he's been through half a dozen finishers since his debut.

GD 08-26-2011 03:54 PM

Yep.

Captain of Fun 08-26-2011 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3613486)
Actually been wondering about that too. What are the legal ramifications of WWE having a masked wrestler with a "look" created by Mistico? Does WWE now own the trademark of the design? Will Mistico need an entirely new mask/look in Mexico?


AAA or CMLL owns the mistico name and likeness. Unless it is the EXACT same mask as well as using the name Sin Cara, WWE can't do anything. If I'm not mistaken, there is already a new Mistico out there. If Cara goes back, he'll probably just take it back.

Cool King 08-26-2011 04:06 PM

I'm a bit surprised at this.

Though I feel bad for Místico. The guy was chosen by Triple H and received a lot of hype from the WWE and fanfare in the Mexican media, that I wouldn't be surprised if Místico feels like shit now and that maybe he's let people down, especially his Mexican fans. :-\

I won't be surprised if I hear news of his release though, but hopefully the WWE will just send him to FCW to develop a new character and become comfortable with the WWE's way of things and then come back to the main roster in the future.

whiteyford 08-26-2011 04:07 PM

Theres also a Sin Cara in Mexico since WWE didnt copyright the name there, that might have changed by now though.

Riker 08-26-2011 04:11 PM

No, they didnt launch their own SIn Cara. They just registered the Trademark in mexico as the WWE forgot to, so they own the mexican media rights to the name Sin Cara.

Razzamajazz 08-26-2011 04:13 PM

buncha racists for releasing him because he's mexican

/jesse jackson

Mr. C 08-26-2011 04:37 PM

Before debuting Sin Cara on TV, WWE mentioned on their website that he used to be Mistico in Mexico.

Quote:

Company sources say developmental talent Jorge Arias (aka Hunico) will exclusively portray the Sin Cara character going forward. WWE wants to maintain the character since its been very popular among kids and in merchandise sales.
I really hope they aren’t this foolish. If Sin Cara isn’t Mistico, he isn’t interesting. He’s just another luchador.

Unless the rumors of WWE trying to acquire the Mistico ringname from CMLL are true, and they do plan on doing a Mistico vs. Sin Cara match. Eventually, Theodore Long realizes that “Sin Cara” is an imposter and searches for the true Sin Cara, who Long says hasn’t competed since Money In The Bank. This leads to a match at Vengeance in October featuring Mistico vs. Sin Cara, both wrestlers wearing identical costumes, but Mistico wears gold and white while Sin Cara wears blue and gold. Mistico performs a moonsault sideslam before getting the victory and starts wearing gold and white from now on.

drmayberry7 08-26-2011 05:07 PM

I knew once he botched his first entrance it wasnt gonna work out

dhellova guy 08-26-2011 05:35 PM

Talented, but full of himself. Needs others with talent to have a good match.

Oh well


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