World of Warcraft.
 

Ok so I am Captain Come Late but who here plays WoW? Just started and am trying to look for new people to play with.

/obligatory 'fuck this game' post

So why'd you come in here then? Seriously, you do this for every thread about a game you don't like, shits getting old "bro"

G knows.

I've dipped in and out of it, but I've never really played for more than a few weeks at any one time.

Other MMOs have grabbed my attention far more.

/obligatory ' you're fucking stupid ' post

If you were twice as smart, you'd still be retarded, and you'd still fit in perfectly with the people who like this game.

Yeah, if I wanted to do repetitive, boring actions over and over for 8 hours at a time without making any progress, I'd get a job at McDonalds where I would at least get paid for it.

Graphics card took a shit on me but as soon as I replace it, I'm back in.Kinda looking to "start over" with new toons on another server. Play has gotten pretty boring lately.

BTW, I'll never understand the Requiem crusade against WoW. It is most definitely the greatest MMO ever made. People may not like that it's the greatest MMO ever made but come on.

Most played =/= Greatest.

This.

Until you understand what MMO's were and could have been, you'll never understand why I hate WoW, because you'll never understand the feeling of awe and adrenaline that good MMOs created. WoW's success came from a combination of taking an already established and popular IP, and appealing to a new type of gamer that previous MMOs weren't designed for, as well as low enough system requirements that -anyone- and their mother could play. They essentially changed what the genre was about, and left the people who enjoyed the genre as it was, with nothing to enjoy. They took the 'awe' out of the genre. Now, developers are afraid to try anything that might not get them a million subscribers, because they think that's what it means to be successful.

I would love to discuss this in private or in a new thread if you'd like. Or here, whatever.

It's fairly typical for people to feel that way with anything successful. Definitely get a "WWE vs indy wrestling" feel from it all. In Tahoe, I'll have this discussion later.

I don't hate it because it's successful. I have a list of legitimate reasons for hating it, of which I can compare to other products that were/are successful in their own right.

Feel like you're just stuck on this "It sold millions of copies so it must be the best thing out there", so you think nothing I say can have any validity because you think quality is somehow correlative to # of sales.

It's typical for people to assume that.

It's also typical for Bieber fans to assume I don't like him because he is popular instead of the actual reasons.

I don't really care about people's opinions of WoW, I just find it funny that FA is on Req's side and said this:

When he's the one that started the WoW social group here.

Depends on how you look at it. WoW is the best MMO from a business perspective. It gets both hardcore and casual fans alike playing it. If a game can do that, how can you not say that it's not superior? I guarantee any game you can list will not fall into both casual and hardcore sides. It'll vastly be to one side or another (usually the hardcore side).

On the flip side, I can understand saying it's not the best because it has this, or doesn't do that. But that's more opinion that you cannot honestly back up with fact (in most cases).

It's really the same with music. Why is Justin Beiber "bad" because YOU don't like him? I'm not defending him because, frankly, I've never heard one of his songs. But I feel if a majority of a populace likes something and it pulls in the most money, and it's known by the most people, it should be considered the best. Music and gaming tastes are opinion. Money and subscribers/CD sales are cold hard facts.

i was into it until shortly after wrath of the lich king came out, then it felt too much like work and killed the fun. that and the amount of assclowns that make up the anonymity of the internet

From a business perspective, McDonald's is the best restaurant in the world.

It has more stores and makes more money than any other restaurant. People eat there because it's cheap, easily accessible and fast. That's their goal, and they succeed at meeting it. However, I doubt anyone would seriously argue that McDonald's makes the best food in the world.

Business perspective is a lousy standard by which to judge the quality of a product.

You mean like that one time you spent 8 hours on the phone waiting to get your WoW account reconnected?

I hope you don't think we all forgot the thread you made about it.

.....really?

Kind of doubt you see "foodies" (people hardcore about the quality of their food) going to McDonalds on a regular basis.

I'm not saying that WoW's quality is as high as it can be, but I do feel that a lot of people (yourself included) put the quality down purely because it's a more casual game now. That's really the thing I see when people shit on most games these days. They're too casual, they're too "easy", you don't have to sit at your computer or couch for days at a time to get somewhere now.

Blizzard took a relatively small genre and casual-fied it to make a profit. And the people who had played MMOs in the past are bitching because it's changed, and bitching because they can't get "a real" MMO now because of WoW. And they have a vendetta against it, but they fail to realize that this is a business, and the business has shifted heavily in favor of the casual gamer because that is where the money is.

Just because it's a casual game doesn't mean it's not quality. WoW is fairly high quality. Does it have its problems? Yes, absolutely. But it's a high quality game.

For a long while MMO players were a pretty niche breed of gamer. Feel like a lot of the resentment towards Warcraft comes from Blizzard making the MMO experience for everyone, and not just a select small group.

Congratulations on finding that. Now how about you find the last time I posted in there? Or the last time I played.

Ill save you the trouble and tell you it was shortly after Wrath of The Lich King. Why? Well because after 72 levels of doing the same things over and over and over. I sat back and realized I still have 8 levels to go to level cap which is likely another month or so of doing this shit and then I have to grind more to get gear so I will be properly equipped when the next expansion comes out.

I ended up uninstalling the game the next day.

Example? Team Fortress 2. Appeals to more competitive gamers like myself and Req but is also so easy that after a few hours a noob can be a decent player.

Its only been around I think 7 years as well and they still patch it regularly.

Bieber on the other hand is a product of marketing, auto-tune and 12 year old girls infatuation with some of the gayest looking people out there.

Who's sock are you?

As for that, my cousin wanted me to group with him against Illidan or someone. I spent all day trying to get through to get it playable and the fucker ended up quitting WoW a week later.

So pissed at him for that still.

Also, if you enjoy it thats entirely up to you, but I find it way too repetitive to be fun anymore.

I was talking purely MMORPGs.

There are more Subways than McDonalds now.

I guarantee any game you can list will not fall into both casual and hardcore sides. It'll vastly be to one side or another (usually the hardcore side).

I said TF2 because you said the above sentence.

As for MMO's, of course WoW is the biggest. It also from the ones I have tried is by far the easiest to learn to play and to master. The difference from being agood to a great is knowing your timing for spells and abilitie as the best players will all have the same gear and then it just comes down to how well you can play your class and with very little practice you can become quite good at it.

But when you play a game such as EVE online, its just overwhelming, you are starting out as a spec in the universe and it doesn't really ever get easy at all. Thats probably why casual gamers really wont have fun with it at all.

Currently writing a VERY long post. Will probably post it later today or tomorrow if I can get around to it.

Golly gee wilikers, I can hardly wait.

Currently writing a very short post, probably post it in the next minute.

I'm enjoying the butthurt.

That wasn't the short post by the way

You would have been a terrible King of the Forum. Terrible form.

Dysfunctional o-ring.

Right where it hurts, my internet forum tournament runner-up status.

Brb, gonna write several paragraphs about Rebecca Black explaining why she isn't any good, while she gains popularity and money.

I mean I never liked WoW, but this thread is silly.

I'm just going to keep replying with nonsense until my flu medication kicks in.

Have a little class for once and stop trying to incite something when you have nothing useful to add.