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RP 10-25-2011 08:12 AM

Joe Flacco or Alex Smith -If your life depended on it
 
Right now. Who would you want Qb'ing your team.

Team Sheep 10-25-2011 09:30 AM

I've always believed in Alex Smith. He's finally showing his worth on a consistent basis. But Flacco has the play off experience so I suppose I'll pick him.

Nicky Fives 10-25-2011 02:56 PM

Flacco.

Kris P Lettus 10-25-2011 09:30 PM

Curtis Painter

LOL

Rock Bottom 10-25-2011 10:09 PM

Smith all day. Fitting that someone from Baltimore tilts it 6-5 against their own QB.

Droford 10-25-2011 11:05 PM

Take away Jim Harbaugh and Alex Smith is a joke.

Take away Cam Cameron and Joe Flacco would be great.

Gertner 10-26-2011 11:27 AM

Kerry Collins

Shisen Kopf 10-26-2011 11:55 AM

is Alex Smith a Mormon? that is the deciding factor

Droford 11-20-2011 09:15 PM

Bumping this since they play on Thursday..should be a deciding factor with the head to head matchup

RP 11-21-2011 04:33 AM

I've already decided actually. Alex Smith.

DrA 11-21-2011 05:58 AM

Joe Flacco is about at the level of someone like Matt Hasselbeck, maybe a bit below. He'll be "a familiar name" that a couple of teams will probably plug in sometime down the road to manage the offense and get nine or so wins. I'm afraid Alex Smith is going to be a one season wonder, but I hope I'm wrong. He might take the 49ers to the NFC championship this year before they find themselves in the middle of the back again. I see him being one of those guys Tampa Bay or Cleveland picks up because they really need a quarterback and he had that one good season he will milk for the rest of his career, sort of like what Trent Dilfer did.

Droford 11-24-2011 11:23 PM

<table id="yui_3_4_1_1_1322194948589_95"><thead id="yui_3_4_1_1_1322194948589_94"><tr id="yui_3_4_1_1_1322194948589_93"><th id="yui_3_4_1_1_1322194948589_92" class="player title" scope="col">San Francisco 49ers</th> <th scope="col" title="Completions">Comp</th> <th scope="col" title="Attempts">Att</th> <th scope="col" title="Yards">Yds</th> <th scope="col" title="Completion Percentage">Pct</th> <th scope="col" title="Yards Per Attempt">Y/A</th> <th scope="col" title="Sacks">Sack</th> <th scope="col" title="Yards Lost">YdsL</th> <th scope="col" title="Touchdowns">TD</th> <th scope="col" title="Interceptions">Int</th> <th scope="col" title="QB Rating">Rating</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="odd"> <td class="player title">Alex Smith(notes)</td> <td>15</td> <td>24</td> <td>140</td> <td>62.5</td> <td>5.8</td> <td>9</td> <td>44</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>61.1</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <table><thead> <tr> <th class="player title" scope="col">Baltimore Ravens</th> <th scope="col" title="Completions">Comp</th> <th scope="col" title="Attempts">Att</th> <th scope="col" title="Yards">Yds</th> <th scope="col" title="Completion Percentage">Pct</th> <th scope="col" title="Yards Per Attempt">Y/A</th> <th scope="col" title="Sacks">Sack</th> <th scope="col" title="Yards Lost">YdsL</th> <th scope="col" title="Touchdowns">TD</th> <th scope="col" title="Interceptions">Int</th> <th scope="col" title="QB Rating">Rating</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr class="odd"> <td class="player title">Joe Flacco(notes)</td> <td>15</td> <td>23</td> <td>161</td> <td>65.2</td> <td>7.0</td> <td>0</td> <td>0</td> <td>1</td> <td>0</td> <td>100.1</td></tr></tbody></table>

Nark Order 11-25-2011 12:24 AM

So he completed almost the same as Alex Smith and Smith was sacked 9 times? Yeah. You've definitely proved your point.

Droford 11-25-2011 12:38 AM

I dont know how anyone could have watched that game and came out of it with the idea that Alex smith is a better QB than Flacco.

I'll accept them being even, but no way Smith is better.

DrA 11-25-2011 12:43 AM

Droford gets the last laugh.

Rock Bottom 11-26-2011 04:31 PM

Flacco is getting better. Not that he's bad, but he is really inconsistent. I wouldn't mind having a better QB. But who wouldn't. I realize that Rodgers is a freak of nature, but when I look at the two side by side, meh.

Tori Smith is starting to come into his own though and having more than Boldin to throw long to is really starting to show me that Flacco isn't that bad. I guess we'll see.

SlickyTrickyDamon 12-16-2011 06:20 AM

How is this even close? It's Flacco.

Droford 12-16-2011 09:49 AM

Most smith votes are just Anti-Me votes, but anyway..

#1-norm-fan 12-26-2011 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 3704388)
How is this even close? It's Flacco.

lol seriously

RP 01-17-2012 03:15 AM

Yup

Droford 01-17-2012 10:22 PM

Wouldn't it be hillarious that this will probably be the Super Bowl QB matchup? ESPN is slobbering all over Eli vs Brady..lol

RP 01-19-2012 12:05 AM

I want Eli v Brady, for the Indy economy sake.

Droford 01-19-2012 06:11 PM

It doesnt matter who plays in the game for the city's economy, its not like if its Ravens/49ers that no ones gonna show up for the game.

Quite honestly I dont really care about Indianapolis' economy .

RP 01-20-2012 11:57 AM

It matters to the host city Droford. Use your brain. Cities don't petition to get superbowls or final fours for fun. Come on.

OssMan 01-22-2012 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3736738)
Wouldn't it be hillarious that this will probably be the Super Bowl QB matchup? ESPN is slobbering all over Eli vs Brady..lol

lol

#1-norm-fan 01-25-2012 09:31 AM

He could still be right. He's probably looking for a stat right now to show that Batlimore is still pretty much a lock to make it.

RP 02-05-2013 09:12 AM

In the interest of being fair. I have to admit to Droford. I've really have been impressed with Joe Flacco. They need to pay the man. And he might be the best deep ball thrower in the league. And he has a ring right now. Super impressed by Joe Flacco. He's elite. He's better than Alex Smith. I'm eating crow right now.

I wouldnt go as far as saying he's the best QB in the league, but he's top 5 and maybe top 3 right now for sure. I'm really impressed with how he's carried himself about this contract. He talked it up. He said he deserves it and then he went and backed it up.

Thread can be closed now. Debate is over. Flacco shut it down.

Keith 02-05-2013 09:49 AM

Flacco.

Nark Order 02-06-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RP (Post 4108226)
In the interest of being fair. I have to admit to Droford. I've really have been impressed with Joe Flacco. They need to pay the man. And he might be the best deep ball thrower in the league. And he has a ring right now. Super impressed by Joe Flacco. He's elite. He's better than Alex Smith. I'm eating crow right now.

I wouldnt go as far as saying he's the best QB in the league, but he's top 5 and maybe top 3 right now for sure. I'm really impressed with how he's carried himself about this contract. He talked it up. He said he deserves it and then he went and backed it up.

Thread can be closed now. Debate is over. Flacco shut it down.

He's better than Alex. I disagree about him being top 5. If the NFL was drafted all over again, I can definitely think of 5 QBs I'd draft over Flacco. Maybe even closer to 10. Let's try it:

Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rogers
Drew Brees
Matt Ryan
Eli Manning
Ben Roethlisberger
Cam Newton

A case could be made for some of the rookies/first years starters this year but I'll leave them off to be fair. Still, I may rather have Luck, Wilson, or Kap. Flacco had a great postseason but let's not get crazy here

DaveBrawl 02-06-2013 01:22 PM

Let's not forget RG3 unless Shanahan runs the legs right out from under him.

Next Big Thing 02-06-2013 02:11 PM

According to Merrill Hoge, Joe Flacco is the best quarterback in the NFL. His top 5 list is composed of:

1) Joe Flacco
2) Aaron Rodgers
3) Tom Brady
4) Ben Roethlisberger
5) SUPER BOWL XLVIII MVP MATT RYAN

Next Big Thing 02-06-2013 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveBrawl (Post 4109434)
Let's not forget RG3 unless Shanahan runs the legs right out from under him.

I see RG3 evolving into an even faster/more athletic version of Steve Young or even Donovan McNabb moreso than a Michael Vick type player who is a garbage passer that is more likely to make plays with his legs than his arms.

He just needs time to adjust.

DaveBrawl 02-06-2013 03:17 PM

I meant in the way the Skins call plays and don't really have the support that end up with him hurt moreso than he tries to run first like Vick does. I think he's already a much better passer than Vick. You could see him evolve like you were saying just this season alone. He started out trying to run by everyone but once he got knocked out of one of the games early this season he started to throw it more each week.

I think it was the Baltimore game, I was listening on the radio and Sonny Jurgensen kept bringing up how he hadn't run all game and how he may have to do it. Well towards the end he finally takes off and when he does he gets laid out and the backup had to come in to finish the 4th and OT and play the next game as well.

screech 02-06-2013 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4109404)
He's better than Alex. I disagree about him being top 5. If the NFL was drafted all over again, I can definitely think of 5 QBs I'd draft over Flacco. Maybe even closer to 10. Let's try it:

Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rogers
Drew Brees
Matt Ryan
Eli Manning
Ben Roethlisberger
Cam Newton

A case could be made for some of the rookies/first years starters this year but I'll leave them off to be fair. Still, I may rather have Luck, Wilson, or Kap. Flacco had a great postseason but let's not get crazy here

Flacco > Newton

Nicky Fives 02-06-2013 03:38 PM

looks like I picked a winner..... *pats self on back a la Barry Horowitz

screech 02-06-2013 03:43 PM

How is Cam Newton even in a top QB discussion right now? Mind boggling.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-09-2013 03:36 AM

Pussy un-public pool.

If you clicked Alex Smith admit it cowards and be ridiculed.

screech 02-10-2013 03:27 PM

Still baffled how one would take Cam Newton over Joe Flacco right now. Flacco is definitely top tier right now, maybe top 5.

Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Peyton, Ben, Eli - I get them. Ryan? Arguable.

But Cam Newton? I like him, but you cannot be serious.

Droford 02-10-2013 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4109404)
He's better than Alex. I disagree about him being top 5. If the NFL was drafted all over again, I can definitely think of 5 QBs I'd draft over Flacco. Maybe even closer to 10. Let's try it:

Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Aaron Rogers
Drew Brees
Matt Ryan
Eli Manning
Ben Roethlisberger
Cam Newton

A case could be made for some of the rookies/first years starters this year but I'll leave them off to be fair. Still, I may rather have Luck, Wilson, or Kap. Flacco had a great postseason but let's not get crazy here

I can understand everyone on the list except for Ryan and Newton. Matt Ryan is a joke. One playoff win in 5 years, 2 of which they were #1 seeds. His stats aren't even that much better that you could overlook the poor playoff performances..

Droford 02-10-2013 09:53 PM

PS Flacco has more playoff wins (9) than everyone on that list except Tom Brady (17) and Roethlisberger (10)


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