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JimmyMess 01-01-2012 12:57 PM

If Mason Ryan Didn't Have an Accent, Would He Be Over.
 
I don't think of myself as prejudice, or a racist, or what have you. I'm just wondering, if Mason Ryan didn't have a thick Welsh accent, would he have more microphone time and be more over, or have bigger opportunities?

Or is he just green through and through?

Xero 01-01-2012 12:58 PM

He is as green as a green, raping hoss gets.

Pintint 01-01-2012 01:00 PM

I dont think so. If anything, an accent makes him stand out.

JimmyMess 01-01-2012 01:00 PM

That is... pretty green.

RiX1024 01-01-2012 01:09 PM

He needs a mouthpiece or he needs to attend promo classes in FCW.

Xero 01-01-2012 01:10 PM

He should probably attend some wrestling classes, too.

Corporate CockSnogger 01-01-2012 01:24 PM

He should bring a sheep to the ring with him.

The Gold Standard 01-01-2012 01:55 PM

It is very difficult for someone to get over with me when they have an accent. Sheamus is really the only person who has ever. I really have no reason why I feel this way, but it just is that way.

Shadrick 01-01-2012 02:14 PM

Wades not over with you?

Dirk Ziggler 01-01-2012 02:41 PM

Accent doesn't effect his lack of wrestling ability.

Emperor Smeat 01-01-2012 02:47 PM

Very green and sort of too muscular which seems weird considering Vince loves the big man type wrestlers but can't risk giving him a huge push due to the potential of him failing a Wellness test.

He was a lot better filling in a bodyguard role like he did with Nexus than to just be randomly inserted in different feuds without no real build.

Gerard 01-01-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3718041)
He should bring a sheep to the ring with him.

And then do what comes natural to the Boyo's :) Think of the ratings, in front of thousand of American fans wondering "wtf is the sheep for".

Mason Ryan, the Ram Slammer.

RiX1024 01-01-2012 04:37 PM

Sheep is a bad idea, ye him saying "Boyo" all the time would be funny.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-01-2012 04:41 PM

Green as gooseshit. Wrestling already has its token Welsh in Rob Terry. That neither helps or hinders him.

Gerard 01-01-2012 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RiX1024 (Post 3718137)
Sheep is a bad idea, ye him saying "Boyo" all the time would be funny.

Wrestlemania 29 the headline match, "FELLA VS BOYO", alternatively "Potato vs leek".

Nicky Fives 01-01-2012 07:12 PM

Mason Ryan & Rob Terry could be an awesome MONSTER tag team in 10 years time.....I can picture them with a little pipsqueak manager demolishing everybody.....

Rock Bottom 01-01-2012 10:02 PM

he needs sunglasses

stultiloquy 01-01-2012 10:29 PM

I know he's English, but I don't think I've heard him speak yet... although when he's on TV I don't pay attention anyway.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-01-2012 10:30 PM

He's not English he's Welsh.

Mr. Nerfect 01-01-2012 10:42 PM

Mason Ryan is just too green. The guy needs to do some more work in FCW, and really get the time to develop into a competent and confident presence in the ring. Remove him from the roster and have Skip Sheffield or Brodus Clay take his place. Ryan can return a few years down the track.

Also, if there's anyone that could use a manager, it is Mason Ryan.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-01-2012 11:23 PM

Triple H should manage Mason Ryan. They have a similiar muscular build and they would need a face to talk for him.

Supreme Olajuwon 01-02-2012 01:35 AM

I think this is the first time I've ever seen someone start a comment with "I'm not a racist...BUT" and the next thing actually wasn't racist. Well Dunn.

Aguakate 01-02-2012 03:55 AM

It has nothing to do with his accent, and all to do with his very limited wrestling ability.

Batista was shit, and Mason Ryan is worse than him right now.

So whatever is less or worse than shit, that's where he is right now. And that's why he hasn't taken off.

Sting Fan 01-02-2012 05:48 AM

So completely off topic whatever happened to the English guy who did the backflip slam finisher?

He was a pirate for a bit...

Supreme Olajuwon 01-02-2012 05:58 AM

Paul Burchill. Apparently he's a firefighter now.

Sting Fan 01-02-2012 06:28 AM

Not sure why I thought of him tbh.

I wonder if maybe he might have done better in the current climate WWE.

Oh well, at least this way he (more likely) lives a long and full life and doesn't die in a hotel room coked out of his brain in his 50s...

Corporate CockSnogger 01-02-2012 06:58 AM

Probably get horrifically burnt in a fire in his 30's instead :y:

Sting Fan 01-02-2012 07:14 AM

Living burnt and bouncing your grand kids on your knee probably beats dying in a pool of your own vomit and excrement coked out of your brain without a family other than the pseudo family the wrestling business may give you...

Mr. Nerfect 01-02-2012 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sting Fan (Post 3718622)
Not sure why I thought of him tbh.

I wonder if maybe he might have done better in the current climate WWE.

Oh well, at least this way he (more likely) lives a long and full life and doesn't die in a hotel room coked out of his brain in his 50s...

When you think about it, for a guy who was not considered too interesting on the mic and had spent most of his career in Europe built as an "athletic monster," he got saddled with some really ridiculous gimmicks. The pirate thing was over and working, too, and they completely pulled the rug out from under it. The dude could have at least been a successful mid-card act that flirted with the main event in a Hurricane sort of way.

I've seen an interview with him post-WWE career (recently, actually), and he sounded like he didn't sound too interested in a return. He said that when he was injured Vince told him that "he can take time off, but there might not be a spot for him when he returns." If I remember, they used Mark Henry to write off the pirate character. This is when Henry was sending people on "sabbaticals" instead of inducting them into the Hall of Pain.

Sting Fan 01-02-2012 08:39 AM

Can always rely on Noid for the skinny on a situation :D

Tbh I kind of tuned out a bit before he got the Pirate gimmick, it was a random thought more than anything.

And yes I agree his Gimmick was ridiculous. I feel were this slightly more serious WWE in place back then he might have made it further. I dont for a second think he should return because I dont think he would make it in the WWE we have now.

Just that with the lack of serious talent back in that time if they had todays mindset with back thens roster and a decent push he could have been something.

Hanso Amore 01-02-2012 10:31 AM

Has he even spoken on TV?

All I have seen is a Hoss follow CM punk around, then silenty fuck with Vickie, and now I havent seen him on TV in months.

RiX1024 01-02-2012 11:42 AM

He has spoken on telly and speaking a bit of Welsh which was awesome.

stultiloquy 01-02-2012 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 3718364)
He's not English he's Welsh.

Well, there we go. I guess I don't pay attention to anything about him. :p

Funky Fly 01-02-2012 03:28 PM

Does he still look like the Jolly Green Giant (see what I did there?)? I don't watch tv much in general, let alone wrestling so I'm out of the loop mostly these days.

What I'd do is pair him with a mouthpiece (a good one), have him grow the beard back and cut that hair (honestly, he looks like Batista's less jacked up, more personable kid brother) and just not say anything for the most part. It could be a "you handle the promos, I'll handle the pain" mutual agreement or something. Have him get promo lessons irl, while all the talking on tv is done for him until he outgrows the gimmick (ie he can speak well enough on the stick). Heyman era hoss booking would help too. I remember Big Show doing shit like swinging Rey Mysterio's stretcher into a ringpost but losing like every match of any significance and still looking like the most terrifying person on the planet. If they can turn the floundering hip hop hippo Albert into the A-Train they can do it for Mason Ryan too.

XCaliber 01-03-2012 01:27 PM

Sometimes less mic time is more and I think it rings true in his case he just needs to focus on ripping heads and try to be less Batista ver 2.

CharismaInjection 01-07-2012 05:46 PM

Welsh and proud here! :) I don't know about an accent ruining his push, I'd say the Welsh accent gives him something different! I think it might have something to do with his lack of personality

Outsider 01-09-2012 12:08 PM

I know his cousin and a guy who went to school with him.

Wales is a fucking small country.

Given the area of Wales he is from, and the two people I know connected with him, I might take a stab in the dark and guess he is actually first language Welsh not English. Certainly those in a similar position I know might seem completely fluent in English but under pressure, actually struggle a bit.

So yeah, this may be a factor in poor promos...although only a guess.

RiX1024 01-09-2012 12:19 PM

Aye, I don't live far from where he is from, All he will ever be is that Batista lookalike with a funny accent, that will follow him to his grave. You never know folks he will improve in a year, he just needs time.


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