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Mr. Nerfect 01-04-2012 11:25 PM

If Brock Lesnar were to return to the WWE
 
How would you do it? What's your ideal scenario (if any) leading to a return of the phenom that was, at one stage, labelled "The Next Big Thing" with such certainty?

Gertner 01-04-2012 11:31 PM

Decapitate Daniel Bryan. Just to save us all.

Mr. Nerfect 01-04-2012 11:35 PM

Daniel Bryan would actually make a great opponent for Lesnar upon hypothetical return. Bryan's such a pro in the ring that he could help Lesnar shake off any ring rust he has. Plus, there is no doubt in my mind that they could tell a really compelling story. Lesnar should realistically win the first match between the two, but I think a great showing would more than legitimise Bryan, and could lead to Bryan trying to get back his World Heavyweight Championship.

Personally, the idea of a Lesnar return in the 2012 Royal Rumble sends chills down my spine. Imagine eight or so guys fighting in the ring towards the end of the match when Lesnar's music hits. It'd certainly be a moment. Have Brock win the Rumble, although not without a fight from some other guys, and earn a title shot at WrestleMania -- Lesnar chooses Daniel Bryan, and there's a match that seems somewhat special on SmackDown!'s side for WrestleMania.

Lock Jaw 01-04-2012 11:37 PM

I'd definitely have Lesnar on Smackdown. Just to avoid John Cena's jokes. And to a lesser extent, CM Punk's.

Shisen Kopf 01-04-2012 11:38 PM

Lesnar should return and run around the ring for 10 minutes then leave. But really, without Heyman Lesnar is shit

Xero 01-04-2012 11:39 PM

Since it would be, at best, a three match run to build to a Mania including the Rumble match, it'd have to be a legend he can pretty much destroy but who is a legit bad ass in the fans' eyes. Someone like Triple H or Taker.

Mr. Nerfect 01-04-2012 11:50 PM

Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar would actually be the shit. Imagine if Lesnar just attacked Triple H while the H's were speaking about their WrestleMania plans, and just left Triple H all fucked up and shit.

The thing about Lesnar's return is -- he has to look strong, but there are people that probably aren't happy about his attitude and stuff. Triple H, at this point in his career, might as well set an example and sacrifice himself to the fires of Lesnar, and basically do the job right himself. Lesnar looks good, and no one is really hurt by him being there.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-05-2012 12:04 AM

Brock tries to continue his domination of the Undertaker but this time for the streak. Lesnar has beaten Taker at almost every match they have had Biker Chain and Hell in the Cell.

He would be the most significant threat to the streak since Randy Orton.

Xero 01-05-2012 12:05 AM

Bring Ken Shamrock out of mothballs and have a Lion's Den Match.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-05-2012 12:07 AM

The Dream match: Blackman vs. Chuck Norris.

Wishbone 01-05-2012 12:41 AM

Lesnar has been gone so long that most people have forgotten about him or have completely lost interest. Only fans who pay attention to UFC would care if he did make a return so having him come back just to go over a legend would be pointless and a waist of money and time. Unless he comes back on at least a semi-permanent basis then I really don't think it should be done at all.

The Show Off 01-05-2012 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 3721695)
Lesnar has been gone so long that most people have forgotten about him or have completely lost interest. Only fans who pay attention to UFC would care if he did make a return so having him come back just to go over a legend would be pointless and a waist of money and time. Unless he comes back on at least a semi-permanent basis then I really don't think it should be done at all.

You do realize Brock Lesnar is the number 1 draw UFC had. Who do you think was buying all thos PPV's hardcore MMA fans that care about his NCAA credentials? Or perhaps its current or old pro wrestling fans that are clamoring to see what he did?

If Brock came back to wrestling it would be well recieved by the fans. If Brock were to come back for a one off feud I'd want it to be with Randy Orton. I think that would be a good match with Randy's viper quick striking style against Lesnars brute force. I'm sure that was the WWE's big plans for the future around 2003-04. Not to mention its the two youngest champions in the history of the WWE going face to face.

Mr. Nerfect 01-05-2012 01:42 AM

Lesnar has got about as much potential as anybody to draw for the WWE. Vince will definitely go after him. The ball is in Lesnar's court as to just how much he wants to work.

Wishbone 01-05-2012 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Show Off (Post 3721760)
You do realize Brock Lesnar is the number 1 draw UFC had. Who do you think was buying all thos PPV's hardcore MMA fans that care about his NCAA credentials? Or perhaps its current or old pro wrestling fans that are clamoring to see what he did?

If Brock came back to wrestling it would be well recieved by the fans. If Brock were to come back for a one off feud I'd want it to be with Randy Orton. I think that would be a good match with Randy's viper quick striking style against Lesnars brute force. I'm sure that was the WWE's big plans for the future around 2003-04. Not to mention its the two youngest champions in the history of the WWE going face to face.

Even if Lesnar did bring in ratings (Which I'm still not convinced he would be able to do after the initial shock of his return) he'd still be a waist of money and time. There's no way Lesnar is returning full-time and if he does return he's not going to put over anyone so where's the profit? One night you make a few extra bucks just to bury one of your current top talent (Because you know Lesnar won't fight anyone but an established star or 'legend') who could end up making you a lot more money down the line? Vince might be dumb enough to do something like this... hell he is dumb enough to do it, but it's not something that should be done.

Mr. Nerfect 01-05-2012 04:25 AM

By that logic, it's bad business bringing The Rock back?

Wishbone 01-05-2012 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3721820)
By that logic, it's bad business bringing The Rock back?

1) Rock is most certainly going to put Cena over making him an even bigger star which means more $$$$.

2) Rock sells assloads of merchandise, Lesnar will sell maybe a few thousand tee-shirts to die hard fans who remember him.

3) Rock is a MEGA star of professional wrestling akin to Hogan, and Stone Cold meaning he'll draw regardless of the program or what he's doing. Lesnar is more on a Batista, or Triple H level where he'll draw in the right circumstances but won't be a sure thing.

Wishbone 01-05-2012 05:06 AM

Also kids watch Rock's movies while most parents I've met won't let there kids near a UFC fight so that throws a whole demographic out the window.

Disco Apocalypse 01-05-2012 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 3721841)
1) Rock is most certainly going to put Cena over making him an even bigger star which means more $$$$.

2) Rock sells assloads of merchandise, Lesnar will sell maybe a few thousand tee-shirts to die hard fans who remember him.

3) Rock is a MEGA star of professional wrestling akin to Hogan, and Stone Cold meaning he'll draw regardless of the program or what he's doing. Lesnar is more on a Batista, or Triple H level where he'll draw in the right circumstances but won't be a sure thing.

I hope you're just trolling, because I don't want to live in a world where Triple H is not a least a few levels above Batista and Lesnar.

Heyman 01-05-2012 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3721613)
How would you do it? What's your ideal scenario (if any) leading to a return of the phenom that was, at one stage, labelled "The Next Big Thing" with such certainty?

Short term - Assuming that he'll debut between now and Mania (which he will not), I would have him be hired on as John Laurinitis' bodyguard.

At a PPV - it's Laurinitis vs. Punk.....and then Lesnar comes out of nowhere and beats the shit out of CM Punk.

Allowing Lesnar to play a bodyguard type role would allow Lesnar to work a part-time schedule.....and for health reasons, not fight as much.

Lesnar would be a heel and would win/squash his opponents in 80-90% of his matches. The few jobs that he'd do however - would be to rising babyfaces in the company. Lesnar wouldn't job much but when he did......it would be extremely meaningful.

This is how I would use Brock Lesnar. But again - I HIGHLY doubt that he comes back to wrestling in 2012.

Disco Apocalypse 01-05-2012 05:20 AM

And back on topic, Lesnar would be great in a 2-3 ppv programme where he could retire some of the bigger guys, Big Show, Mark Henry etc. that are on the way out. Then somehow convince him to put someone over before he leaves again.

Nicky Fives 01-05-2012 09:01 AM

I'd have him return just like he debuted...... Come out of the crowd and destroy two lesser talents having a match.....

Kane Knight 01-05-2012 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3721626)
I'd definitely have Lesnar on Smackdown. Just to avoid John Cena's jokes. And to a lesser extent, CM Punk's.

Are you crazy? Think of all the sick PIPE BOMBS Punk/Lesnar could drop.

Especially if Lesnar dropped the gimmick for no reason, turned heel and renounced the fakeness of wrestling!

Kane Knight 01-05-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Disco Apocalypse (Post 3721852)
I hope you're just trolling, because I don't want to live in a world where Triple H is not a least a few levels above Batista and Lesnar.

I'll chip in on the arsenic.

RiX1024 01-05-2012 10:34 AM

Don't build him up to return....make it unexpected.

Hanso Amore 01-05-2012 10:46 AM

WISHBONE YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID

WASTE

WASTE

NOT WAIST

LOOK DOWN - See that area your belt goes, about 4-5 inches higher than your dick. THAT IS A WAIST.

For fuck sake, I cant read your idiotic ramblings, but seeing you use WAIST so many times nearly caused me a fucking aneurysm.

Hanso Amore 01-05-2012 10:47 AM

Also, your understanding of drawing power and how money is made is fucking shit.

DaveBrawl 01-05-2012 10:57 AM

Calm down Hanso.

Take a deep breath.

Now breath out.

No need to have blood squirting out of your ears.

Iop 01-05-2012 11:15 AM

Best would be a surprise return at the rumble but thats not gonna happen.

Hanso Amore 01-05-2012 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveBrawl (Post 3721960)
Calm down Hanso.

Take a deep breath.

Now breath out.

No need to have blood squirting out of your ears.

My left arm hurts and my vision is blurry.

Ill hang up and listen.

DaveBrawl 01-05-2012 11:38 AM

Sounds like you need to take a nap. That should make all your symptoms go away.

weather vane 01-05-2012 11:45 AM

Surprise entrant at the Rumble and just takes everybody out really fast to win it all. Then he gives up his title shot for a chance at ending the streak. The rest writes itself...

The Show Off 01-05-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wishbone (Post 3721841)
1) Rock is most certainly going to put Cena over making him an even bigger star which means more $$$$.

2) Rock sells assloads of merchandise, Lesnar will sell maybe a few thousand tee-shirts to die hard fans who remember him.

3) Rock is a MEGA star of professional wrestling akin to Hogan, and Stone Cold meaning he'll draw regardless of the program or what he's doing. Lesnar is more on a Batista, or Triple H level where he'll draw in the right circumstances but won't be a sure thing.

1. You're only assuming that Lesnar wouldn't put anyone over and you're only assuming The Rock would put Cena over. Assuming both of those things are true what good does it do anyone to put John Cena, the guy who has gone over every wrestler on the WWE's roster, over The Rock. John Cena will not sell one more cent of merch by going over The Rock. He will not look anymore legit in the eyes of anyone if he goes over The Rock.

2. Lesnar would sell a lot of merch, though yes you are right he wouldn't sell as much as The Rock.

3. Lesnar is a bigger draw than Triple H and Batista. He is not a bigger draw than The Rock however.

JKWJRMON 01-05-2012 04:05 PM

Seriously, why would you bring Lesnar back to either keep Taker's streak going, or to end it? If Taker's streak ends it will be by selfish cocksucker HHH, or someone younger that the WWE can still advertise. I'd rather see Cena or CM Punk end Taker's streak than HHH or Brock Lesnar.

jskinnyg 01-05-2012 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 3721627)
Lesnar should return and run around the ring for 10 minutes then leave. But really, without Heyman Lesnar is shit

I enjoy this answer quite a bit...

Theo Dious 01-05-2012 05:42 PM

Have somebody cost Michael Cole his announce job, then have Cole bring in Lesnar in revenge. Cole's belligerent screaming would be so much better as a manager. He could seriously be the new Jimmy Hart.

Xero 01-05-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 3722219)
Have somebody cost Michael Cole his announce job, then have Cole bring in Lesnar in revenge. Cole's belligerent screaming would be so much better as a manager. He could seriously be the new Jimmy Hart.

Would be pretty epic, really.

Wishbone 01-05-2012 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 3722219)
Have somebody cost Michael Cole his announce job, then have Cole bring in Lesnar in revenge. Cole's belligerent screaming would be so much better as a manager. He could seriously be the new Jimmy Hart.

Really like that idea actually. Cole would do 1000 times better as a manager than as a commentator. I still stand by what I said though, that Lesnar really isn't worth the trouble. I'd like to see this scenario played out with someone like Brodus Clay though. Cole could get him quite a bit of heat right off the bat.

Wishbone 01-05-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 3721993)
My left arm hurts and my vision is blurry.

Ill hang up and listen.

Watch it there dude wouldn't want anyone to bite the big one just because of a little incorrect spelling.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-05-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xero (Post 3722226)
Would be pretty epic, really.

The Cole-ossal Connection

Fox 01-06-2012 02:04 AM

He should come back as a surprise entrant in the MITB Ladder match at WrestleMania, and absolutely murder the other 7 guys in the ring in about 5-10 minutes before taking the briefcase. Then he cashes in the same night.

First night back: wins MITB and the World Title.

He then becomes this "I'm better than sports entertainment" asshole who says he just came back to prove that he's untouchable and above everyone else. This would lead to a feud against a "pro wrestler's wrestler" like CM Punk or John Cena, standing up for the sport of professional wrestling against the self-proclaimed sell-out Brock Lesnar.


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