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snakeboss 01-07-2012 03:32 PM

Will John Cena turn heel soon?
 
I miss his rappin gimmick!

Savio 01-07-2012 03:33 PM

No, WWE lost a lot of money when Austin turned heel so they will never do that again.

Supreme Olajuwon 01-07-2012 03:35 PM

any day now

snakeboss 01-07-2012 03:35 PM

So never then? that's boring

snakeboss 01-07-2012 03:35 PM

P.S. JBL is a wrestling god!

#1-norm-fan 01-07-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snakeboss (Post 3723733)
P.S. JBL is a wrestling god!

I miss his rapin gimmick.

ace3025 01-07-2012 04:49 PM

HHH joins Cena to form " H8 Ryzin" and owns everyone!!

Nicky Fives 01-07-2012 05:01 PM

The way they are booking Cena, there is no way that he isn't NOT going to turn..... it's just a matter of time before the marks start crying.....

#1-norm-fan 01-07-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 3723794)
The way they are booking Cena, there is no way that he isn't NOT going to turn..... it's just a matter of time before the marks start crying.....

This is inaccurate.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-07-2012 05:14 PM

So Snakeboss where have you been for 6 years? When you going back there?

snakeboss 01-07-2012 05:15 PM

I've been with your mum, I'm going back there later tonight :)

Rammsteinmad 01-07-2012 05:23 PM

I would find that hilarious if I was 14 years old.

snakeboss 01-07-2012 05:28 PM

Never mind, Rammsteinmad. I guess I have a different audience demographic to you.

Me, I was only 11 when I was on here 6 years ago, so apologies if I seemed stupid. I was 11...yeah.

But if you're going to let silly things I said when I was 11 keep me recieving a hostile reaction here, well I'm not going to argue. I'm just a wrestling fan, I'm sorry if to some people here, my grammer isn't always efficient and correct. I thought this was a wrestling fan site, not an English exam, but let's leave it be.

Tazz Dan 01-07-2012 05:30 PM

Well, as long as you're sorry.

Rammsteinmad 01-07-2012 05:30 PM

Alright sweetheart, relax. I was just messing with ya. I have no idea who you are. There's no way I would remember a poster with 250 posts from six years ago. Chill.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-07-2012 05:30 PM

It's illegal to sign up for things on the internet until you are 13.

Well, I'll give you a fair shot since you are a JBL fan. Welcome back :D

Gertner 01-07-2012 05:31 PM

Sorry, just made a rude remark to you, but then noticed you're a JBL fan like myself.

I apologize for any inconvenience.

Supreme Olajuwon 01-07-2012 05:34 PM

CAN WE TALK ABOUT WRESTLING PLEASE

snakeboss 01-07-2012 05:34 PM

No worries guys, don't worry, I'm not crying haha just felt I needed to get that out of the way so I can just post without certain people who remember me taking the piss.

And yes, JBL is amazing! It was a dark day in wrestling when he left.

Rammsteinmad 01-07-2012 05:37 PM

I don't think anyone here remembers you. Sorry to be the one to tell ya that.

Evil Vito 01-07-2012 05:44 PM

<font color=goldenrod>They will tease a heel turn but there is no chance that it ever actually happens.</font>

Extreme Angle 01-07-2012 05:57 PM

Can't remember if this guy is friends with Charisma Injection or not...

Kane Knight 01-07-2012 06:16 PM

Cena should turn heel. There's a lot of money in heel Cena.

Ruien 01-07-2012 06:17 PM

John Cena is already a heel, people are just to blind to see it.

Ruien 01-07-2012 06:18 PM

Honestly, the kids cheer him still yes but the majority of the audience boos the crap out of him (usually). Just because the WWE hasn't said "John Cena is a heel now" most wrestling fans can't grasp the concept.

Corporate CockSnogger 01-07-2012 06:38 PM

Don't get it when people say "Cena's already a heel" or "he's the biggest heel in the business". He doesn't act like a heel in any way whatsoever. Just because he gets negative reactions doesn't mean he's a heel.

Guess I can't grasp the concept.

Ruien 01-07-2012 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 3723929)
Don't get it when people say "Cena's already a heel" or "he's the biggest heel in the business". He doesn't act like a heel in any way whatsoever. Just because he gets negative reactions doesn't mean he's a heel.

Guess I can't grasp the concept.

How many times does he have to say he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him? That is not being a face, that is saying "I don't care what you want or who you favor. I am better than you" which is being a heel.

No not all his promos are heelish, but he does a lot of heelish things.

Corporate CockSnogger 01-07-2012 06:52 PM

He's not exactly saying it in a "Hey I don't care what you guys think so fuck you" manner though is he? It's much more "I'm gonna make sure I do the right thing because I'm a super nice guy, whether that makes me unpopular or not"

Ruien 01-07-2012 06:55 PM

I guess I classify a heel as doing the opposite of what the crowd wants. And the crowd demands he be a little more edgy and he says no. I get what you are saying though, we just interpret different.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-07-2012 07:14 PM

No, a tweener is somebody who intentionally does things to get cheered and then to get booed. John Cena is a face who gets booed.

Extreme Angle 01-07-2012 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 3723962)
John Cena is a face who gets booed.


#1-norm-fan 01-07-2012 08:04 PM

I'm not sure there is a real good definition of face/heel anymore.

Wishbone 01-07-2012 10:10 PM

Let me go ahead and answer this question right now.

NEVER.

/thread

Lock Jaw 01-07-2012 10:18 PM

He won't turn heel unless they have someone to replace him with as THE top goody-two-shoes Face.

Also, welcome back to Snakeboss, who I approve of solely based on his being a JBL fan.

Rhaps 01-07-2012 10:35 PM

Agreed. Cena's already the biggest heel there is. Proof, if ever it was needed, that even in these fancy modern times of the Internet and so-called smart fans, we're still being completely worked by WWE.

Tom Guycott 01-08-2012 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 3723942)
How many times does he have to say he doesn't care what anyone thinks of him? That is not being a face, that is saying "I don't care what you want or who you favor. I am better than you" which is being a heel.

No not all his promos are heelish, but he does a lot of heelish things.

Like no sell multiple finishers to exposed concrete in the same match and still beat the 10 count.

Also, CM Punk is a heel who stopped insulting the fans. Inject that again and he's still heel, much like The Rock AND Austin in their primes.

Seriously, TPWW, what would honestly be gained around here from Cena turning heel?

If they actually DID pull the trigger on that, everyone would bitch about how it's not being done right, and there would still be a multitude of Cena haters: only it wouldn't be a mix of cheers and boos, it'd be a mixture of boos and apathetic X-Pac heat.

It's not so much that he needs to turn heel. He just needs a breath of fresh air breathed into his character. A heel turn COULD do that, but so could adding something to him besides SUPERCENA!!! A good road COULD have been against Punk with never being able to beat him for the title (sometimes even straight up, no screwjob or run-in) no matter how hard he tried. They derailed that and decided to run the CM face gravy train, but that's another topic for another time.

Think about this: one of the reasons everyone is so high on Cody Rhodes is the fact that he keeps reinventing himself. He went from "nobody CAW" to generic cocky heel in Legacy, to primping pretty boy, to troubled former pretty boy, to the kind of vicious, self-centered heel Orton used to be. He also did this in a relativly short period of time considering his tenure in the 'E.

That entire time, Cena has pretty much done the same schtick.


A heel turn isn't 100% money as an answer. He just needs to change up his gimmick a bit. Or go away for awhile. Or, even better, both. Didn't mean that "go away" in the "we hate Cena" way. I just meant that usually, when people disappear due to injury or suspension or whatever, they come back and make an impact because everyone is all like "oh, we haven't seen HIM for awhile!" Cena could use that, and then come back re-invented. Heel or not.

Shapenday 01-08-2012 03:02 AM

It's time for Cena to turn. If Hogan can do it, anyone can.

Mr. Nerfect 01-08-2012 04:52 AM

That the WWE has waited so long to turn Cena heel will make it revolutionary when it does happen. It'll completely turn wrestling on its head. The WWE has Randy Orton and Sheamus being built up as "Super Faces," and CM Punk is well on the way, as well. Throw in Rey Mysterio and you have quite a lot of guys perfectly capable of carrying things on the babyface side.

#1-norm-fan 01-08-2012 12:02 PM

It's not about finding someone to carry things on the babyface side. It's about finding someone to replace the shitload of Cena merch people buy for their kids. No one can do that right now. He is this generation's Hogan. And even if they could find someone else, they'd still be losing money on Cena as opposed to having both guys be the kid friendly, role-model face.

#1-norm-fan 01-08-2012 12:03 PM

There's a way to make him more ruthless and likable to everyone without turning him heel. They just haven't found the formula yet.


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