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Destor 01-22-2012 07:50 PM

Honest Question: Will Zack Ryder be rellevent after the Jersey Shore goes out of style?
 
Topic say it all.

Rammsteinmad 01-22-2012 07:51 PM

I have no idea what The Jersey Shore is, so I'm gonna go with yes.

Destor 01-22-2012 07:52 PM

its what he ripped his gimmick off of. (awful reality show on mtv that is massively popular)

CSL 01-22-2012 08:00 PM

not really, Ryder debuted the gimmick before Jersey Shore started, he's more ripping off the "culture" that Jersey Shore is supposed to be portraying. Basically there were ridiculous guidos before the show and there will be afterward.

He's no different to anybody else really, he can still be relevant, he just has to evolve. I'd like to think he has "another level"/something we haven't seen yet but if I had to guess, I'd say he'll be opening on Superstars in 2 years with pretty much the exact same gimmick and a lot of people being surprised that he's still employed. I hope I'm wrong.

Captain of Fun 01-22-2012 08:06 PM

I do not get why zach ryder is so popular?

Destor 01-22-2012 08:09 PM

lucky break is the only thing that comes to mind

St. Jimmy 01-22-2012 08:40 PM

he's not relevant now, never has been.

Jordan 01-22-2012 09:27 PM

Jackass
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 3741932)
he's not relevant now, never has been.

Then why at MSG in December did the crowd chant for him until and after he came out? At Survivor Series what was all thAt "we want Ryder" stuff during The Rock's promo? Why is Eve dating him and Kane hating him? Why is John Cena slightly obsessed?

Totally relevant, Long Island has nothing to do with The Jersey Shore, guidos just became pop culture because of it.

CSL 01-22-2012 09:30 PM

that was a St. Jimmy post you just responded to

Destor 01-22-2012 09:30 PM

John Cena, kane and Eve stuff is simple, in non smart mark markets he has no intrest so they're doing everything they can to get intrest in him to make him viable. basically trying to get children buying his merch.

Lock Jaw 01-22-2012 09:45 PM

Never seen Jersey Shore, barely know anything at all about it and how the people on it act.

Asmo 01-22-2012 11:02 PM

I'm guessing he'll find a way to modify his character. I'd like him to, of course.

XCaliber 01-22-2012 11:21 PM

Yes btw he based himself after this guy that was around way before JS.

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Nicky Fives 01-22-2012 11:33 PM

I do not care about Jersey Shore......

FourFifty 01-22-2012 11:52 PM

I dislike the Jersey Shore, as does millions and millions of other complex multi-celled organisms (and many androids also) but many people will remember the passion he had to get noticed. He was either going to get noticed, or get fired.

Indifferent Clox 01-22-2012 11:55 PM

Not a great wrestler but that never stopped anybody.

CSL 01-22-2012 11:56 PM

define wrestler

Destor 01-22-2012 11:57 PM

someone who wears spandex

CSL 01-22-2012 11:58 PM

I think Zack wears spandex well enough. There have definitely been worse spandex wearers.

Destor 01-23-2012 12:02 AM

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Destor 01-23-2012 12:02 AM

i hated those torri wislon tights

CSL 01-23-2012 12:03 AM

sssssshhhhhhhhhhhhh, you're invalidating my point

CSL 01-23-2012 12:03 AM

but yah, horr-eeble

Lock Jaw 01-23-2012 12:05 AM

Dunno. I was a fan of the one leg trunks.

Destor 01-23-2012 12:05 AM

my bad >_<

Tom Guycott 01-23-2012 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 3741875)
Honest Question: Will Zack Ryder be rellevent after the Jersey Shore goes out of style?

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Xero 01-23-2012 01:14 AM

The Miz is still around.

Xero 01-23-2012 01:20 AM

Seriously, my thought all along is that the ONLY reason he's getting a push is because Cena and Punk have a hard on for him. I can respect that they wanted to get him a chance, but if they don't realize that there's at least an 80% chance that he's going to be milked for what he is right now then thrown to the side, they're pretty stupid.

He could catch a break and get a huge character going. If he doesn't evolve the character and it doesn't resonate (which he has the chance to happen with the right evolution) he'll be back to jobbing on Superstars before the end of the year. His current gimmick is already wearing extremely thin.

Realistically, I think he'll be around the main roster for a few more months then drop back to obscurity, maybe getting a filler show on the WWE Network for a bit. I honestly don't think he's seen as anything more than something that happened to catch on and that they could exploit for a quick buck.

Tazz Dan 01-23-2012 02:01 AM

To be fair though, you never thought he'd get this far. At the rate of your thoughts he'll be a 18 time world champ by the end of 2013.

Xero 01-23-2012 02:02 AM

Actually, no, I realized he's an easily marketable guy with limited shelf life.

Tazz Dan 01-23-2012 02:06 AM

Don't look at me like that with sex in your eyes.

Lock Jaw 01-23-2012 02:09 AM

Remember when Eugene was pushed to the moon?

Ryder is kind of like Eugene. But with the actual potential for character development. Whether he fulfills the potential will spell out whether he goes the way of Eugene, or is able to maintain himself.

RiX1024 01-23-2012 06:55 AM

Who knows, we have to wait and see.

Iop 01-23-2012 10:37 AM

No No No!, You know it!

XL 01-23-2012 10:58 AM

He's already moved past "just being a guido/Jersey Shore ripoff" IMO. If you're looking for that take a look at Robbie E over in TNA.

Swiss Ultimate 01-23-2012 11:34 AM

I think he is passionate enough about the business to be successful with any gimmick they decide to throw at him. I used to hate comedy gimmicks, but at the very least I can see him doing well for a few years with this gimmick before being repackaged and either failing miserably or succeeding.

I know a pornstar and a pimp who weren't so successful.

MoFo 01-23-2012 01:46 PM

Curtain jerk tag team w/ Santino by yrs end.

XL 01-23-2012 02:03 PM

They can always inject life into the character with a heel turn (not of the loner, submission machine vairety) should it become stale. Make him into a real jerk.

Triple Naitch 01-23-2012 03:36 PM

Jersey Shore is already losing popularity. Ryder's somewhat toned down his gimmick since his big push. As long as he doesn't force it, he'll be ok.

Emperor Smeat 01-23-2012 05:24 PM

Yes he will still stay popular because like others have said, he started this character well before Jersey Shore began and did make some small changes since starting the gimmick.

He probably won't actually start any huge changes until the WWE is either ready to push his development to the next level or when he's comfortable at his current high level position in the card.

I think what helps him a lot is the internet show which already created his stable fanbase and has grown a lot within a year. It also helped that his gradual rise also affected his merchandise sales enough that made the WWE become invested in him.


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