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Damndirty 02-04-2012 06:38 PM

Smackdown's been getting.... repetitive...
 
Has anyone else noticed it? Smackdown looks like nothing but a repeat of the same segments seen throughout the past two or three weeks prior to them. For instance: two Natalya vs. Tamina matches and the past four weeks we have seen her matches end with Tamina kicking the crap out of her before jumping off the turnbuckle for a frogsplash on her. What point is there for Smackdown to be the only show recognizing a brand split and keeping it tight with the booking of matches, while Raw can have any and every superstar it wants in the meantime? Some people are okay with this, but I think it's pretty annoying myself.

Rammsteinmad 02-04-2012 07:06 PM

You would have to give a few more examples other than just a Divas segment per show, for me to start agreeing.

Corporate CockSnogger 02-04-2012 07:08 PM

Yeah, if we're using diva matches as examples, Raw has pretty much used 1 of 3 diva matches each week for like the past year.

Damndirty 02-04-2012 07:22 PM

Seamus vs. Jinder Mahal also done two or three times

#1-norm-fan 02-04-2012 07:25 PM

Meh. I don't mind stuff like that. It's getting guys on TV.

As for Raw, while it's getting better, I'm convinced the "Raw Supershow" started to counter the fact that the writing staff was lazy as fuck and it was easier for them to just book the main event scene and then say "K Orton... throw Orton out there! And whatever other main event guys are here. Now have them fight. K done."

Damndirty 02-04-2012 07:28 PM

Henry vs. Big Show and Barrett vs. Orton

#1-norm-fan 02-04-2012 07:30 PM

They're feuds. And pretty good ones at that. They're gonna have multiple matches against each other.

Damndirty 02-04-2012 07:31 PM

Dibiase vs. Hunico

Damndirty 02-04-2012 07:33 PM

Yeah, but there's also such a thing as too many reoccuring feuds too, and add that to rematches that lead to nothing, no title shots or anything, which is the case with Sheamus and Jinder Mahal

ace3025 02-04-2012 07:46 PM

Other than a higher amount of comedy on each show, I enjoy Smackdown more consistently than RAW. There's a lot of good wrestling and the storylines seem more thought out and take their time to develop .... Rather than raw where it seems like a crap shoot each week as to what you will get

#1-norm-fan 02-04-2012 07:50 PM

Raw has been on fire the past month or so though.

Damndirty 02-04-2012 07:56 PM

I'm not saying Smackdown is a bad show, cuz it has been pretty interesting lately. I like to see rematches when there's a title on the line or there is a deep embedded hatred in it like Orton and Barrett, but when there's more than one rematch on the same show, it feels to me that they aren't even giving other talents tv time when they deserve it, and even if they didn't, they don't have to make them job out as bad as they do, that just kills any kind of credibility. It's like Alex Riley, even though he botched a few things, he went from being on par with the Miz and being able to hang with the main eventers to all of a sudden be squashed like a jobber. I just like seeing a little diversity and originality in the way they used to do.

XL 02-04-2012 08:20 PM

You have to remember that for the most part SmackDown has suffered some serious injury problems.

Sheamus v Christian was cut short due to an injury, leaving Sheamus with nothing to do.
Mark Henry has been injured leaving him (more) limited with what he can do.
Orton has been out.
Undertaker is always gone.
Sin Cara is injured/suspended.

That's 5 really big players and missing those guys means they put other guys in holding pattens until they can resume the fued (Orton/Barrett) or do something with them (Sheamus winning the Rumble).

I don't find the repeat matchups so annoying but I do think they could cut some matches out altogether and replace it with some form of character exposition.

Since the Hunico/Sin Cara fued was cut short we've learned nothing about Hunico (or Camacho), we know next to nothing about Primo and Epico, any kind of story with Jinder Mahal has been dropped, etc.

Damndirty 02-04-2012 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 3756001)
You have to remember that for the most part SmackDown has suffered some serious injury problems.

Sheamus v Christian was cut short due to an injury, leaving Sheamus with nothing to do.
Mark Henry has been injured leaving him (more) limited with what he can do.
Orton has been out.
Undertaker is always gone.
Sin Cara is injured/suspended.

That's 5 really big players and missing those guys means they put other guys in holding pattens until they can resume the fued (Orton/Barrett) or do something with them (Sheamus winning the Rumble).

I don't find the repeat matchups so annoying but I do think they could cut some matches out altogether and replace it with some form of character exposition.

Since the Hunico/Sin Cara fued was cut short we've learned nothing about Hunico (or Camacho), we know next to nothing about Primo and Epico, any kind of story with Jinder Mahal has been dropped, etc.

I agree that it is strange how half the Smackdown roster is out like that. It might be because they are working harder than the strictly Raw crew, being that they appear on both shows.

Lock Jaw 02-04-2012 08:39 PM

NOW HOLD ON A MINUTE PLAYA

a) TAG TEAM MATCH!

b) You will go one on one with..... <s>DA UNDERTAKER</s>SHEAMUS!

Damndirty 02-04-2012 08:47 PM

Pretty much sums it up!

Pintint 02-04-2012 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3756016)
NOW HOLD ON A MINUTE PLAYA

a) TAG TEAM MATCH!

b) You will go one on one with..... <S>DA UNDERTAKER</S>SHEAMUS!

+ Unfunny Santino segment

+ Long and Aksana segment

Zzz....

Emperor Smeat 02-04-2012 10:17 PM

It seems like they are trying to rush development or at least trying to force certain wrestlers to be hated or loved by the crowd before the draft or Mania occurs a lot more than in previous years. Majority of the feuds either got randomly placed to see what sticks with the crowd or are weak because of the division itself (ex. Tag and Divas).

Heel-wise, Rhodes and Barrett have been developing greatly into future stars but barely anyone on the face side has been built up. Bryan had to switch to a heel to get some real personality to his character while Big Show and Sheamus took over face duty to help beef up that side due to lack of depth.

#1-norm-fan 02-04-2012 10:34 PM

They really need to just not even worry about a draft this year. There is no real roster split. It's a clusterfuck. No one cares if anyone "switches brands".

Lock Jaw 02-04-2012 10:37 PM

Technically it does still matter, in the way that Smackdown guys get to be on two shows, but RAW guys only get to be on one. Unless they are Brodus Clay, who cannot be contained.

#1-norm-fan 02-04-2012 10:44 PM

I didn't say it didn't matter. I just said no one cares. The change is so minimal.

#1-norm-fan 02-04-2012 10:48 PM

The situation now makes it to where anyone can wrestle anyone on Raw. So who cares what "brand" they are assigned.

Lock Jaw 02-04-2012 10:51 PM

Because the midcard of Smackdown, if they were only on RAW, would not get any TV time.

Like Drew McIntyre. Moved to Smackdown and he is suddenly on TV again.

Skippord 02-04-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3756111)
Technically it does still matter, in the way that Smackdown guys get to be on two shows, but RAW guys only get to be on one. Unless they are Brodus Clay, who cannot be contained.

His singlet's words exactly

XL 02-04-2012 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3756111)
Technically it does still matter, in the way that Smackdown guys get to be on two shows, but RAW guys only get to be on one. Unless they are Brodus Clay, who cannot be contained.

And David Otunga.

Damndirty 02-05-2012 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3756109)
They really need to just not even worry about a draft this year. There is no real roster split. It's a clusterfuck. No one cares if anyone "switches brands".

If things are gonna be the way they've been, then the draft is pretty useless, considering that usually when it happens, some of the talent (like one part of a tagteam or a stable) are never seen again once they are shipped to the other brand. I only thought the split worked if the company had an overabundance of talent, but now they don't even use most of the talent unless it was on Superstars or house shows.

#1-norm-fan 02-05-2012 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3756129)
Because the midcard of Smackdown, if they were only on RAW, would not get any TV time.

Like Drew McIntyre. Moved to Smackdown and he is suddenly on TV again.

So the midcard of Smackdown is the only real effect of a draft? Then my point stands. No one would care. They might as well just make a mention online of "Hey, these random mid-carders changed brands" and be done with it.

MoFo 02-05-2012 12:41 PM

Its been fucking awful for yrs.

#1-norm-fan 02-05-2012 01:23 PM

It's at an all-time low though.

XL 02-05-2012 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3756649)
Its been fucking awful for yrs.

It really hasn't.
Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3756683)
It's at an all-time low though.

It really isn't.

MoFo and #1-wwf-fan should team up as The Masters of Hyperbole.

#1-norm-fan 02-05-2012 01:48 PM

You realize I and I'm pretty sure MoFo are talking about the roster split and not Smackdown, right?

XL 02-05-2012 01:53 PM

I see.

In which case, I agree.

But I don't let it bother me anymore. The only time it has any bearing on my feelings towards the product is when they play it up for Bragging Rights which they may have dropped this year.

MoFo 02-05-2012 03:29 PM

Nah I was tlking about SD! itself.

Its exactly the same as Heat, nxt and the other jobber shows.

#1-norm-fan 02-05-2012 03:32 PM

Oh... wow. lol

XL 02-05-2012 05:22 PM

Mo "Mr Hyperbole" Fo

MoFo 02-05-2012 05:37 PM

If you enjoy it good for you, I just find it boring and full of jabronys.

Damndirty 02-05-2012 11:10 PM

I think the main events on SD are fine the way they are (most of the time), but the rest of the show needs to deliver more originality and draw for people to stick around and watch it up to that point, or just so people can be drawn to the other segments and matches themselves without always relying on the hype of the main event to keep them there. That signifies desperation.

St. Jimmy 02-06-2012 12:59 AM

I don't notice anything on Smackdown other than Danielson.

XL 02-06-2012 06:57 AM

I wonder why that might be?

DAMN iNATOR 02-06-2012 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3756129)
Because the midcard of Smackdown, if they were only on RAW, would not get any TV time.

Like Drew McIntyre. Moved to Smackdown and he is suddenly on TV again.

That's probably the biggest hook for me to watch SD! every week besides Daniel Bryan, Cody and the Rhodes/Orton feud. Can't wait to see Drew start getting pushed right through the roof.


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