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Gertner 02-28-2012 10:34 AM

Does Rey Mysterio pretty much have the WWE by the balls?
 
Apparently their is a money issue with Rey Mysterio and the WWE in terms of him returning.

With the failure of Sin Cara and the lack of a hispanic face, does Rey Mysterio pretty much have the company by the balls? He's such a huge merchandise draw, as well as getting faggot spics like Juan to watch.

Plus, he could easily make a ton of $ wrestling in Mexico, so it's not like he'd starve.

Shouldd the company do everything they can to sign him?

Hanso Amore 02-28-2012 10:44 AM

He does. He has had them by the balls for YEARS.

The Guy is their biggest Latin Draw. He sells TONS of merchandise. He can squeeze all the money he wants out of them.

James Steele 02-28-2012 11:05 AM

As much as he is out hurt now, I don't think WWE will waste the money on him. I am suprised he isn't one of the part-time contract guys now.

Iop 02-28-2012 11:13 AM

They should give him a new gimmick, call him "booyka" and have him be a sexual predator who attacks WWE divas while yelling BOOYAKA and jumping at them with his crotch :|

BigDaddyCool 02-28-2012 11:16 AM

no, he sucks

Triple Naitch 02-28-2012 11:26 AM

Mysterio deserves every penny with the amount of revenue he creates.

Destor 02-28-2012 11:32 AM

every since eddie died he's had them by the balls. they need to steal hernandez from tna. young, got the size, decent worker, mostly healthy. mysterio cant work full time if they dont get the next latino star lined out theyre going to hurting in 5 years.

Gertner 02-28-2012 11:36 AM

Hernandez is basically a bigger Hunico. Not what they need.

Captain of Fun 02-28-2012 11:42 AM

And he isn't even half as good as Mysterio. Hopefully, Sin Cara can bounce back from his first run. The crowd seems to be into him, so I don't think WWE should give up on him just yet. He's not the first guy to have a rough start with the company.

Nicky Fives 02-28-2012 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3782683)
Mysterio deserves every penny with the amount of revenue he creates.

exactly..... plus the added publicity he could do in Mexico by speaking Spanish is almost unmeasurable.... He does in fact have WWE by the balls.....

FourFifty 02-28-2012 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iop (Post 3782671)
They should give him a new gimmick, call him "booyka" and have him be a sexual predator who attacks WWE divas while yelling BOOYAKA and jumping at them with his crotch :|

I can almost forgive your for your thread about pennies... but really.... REALLY!??!?!??!!? Listen, if you're going to pull something out of your ass and show it off, at least have the common decency to wipe it off first.

FourFifty 02-28-2012 01:40 PM

Step One- Keep Rey
Step Two- Give Rey a luchador tag team partner who is bilingual, can work a lucha style as well as the WWE style
Step Three- Give them the tag team titles
Step Four- Drop the tag team titles
Step Five- Give Rey time off for an injury, make it so someone like Del Rio attacked him
Step Six- Have his partner run with the ball and get revenge
Step Seven- Elevate the partner to a predominate singles role while Rey is off
Step Eight- Sell merchandise
Step Nine- Forget about Rey and his weak knees, we have this new guy in his spot who works more and costs less
Step Ten- Don't resign Rey

Captain of Fun 02-28-2012 01:48 PM

I guess the question now becomes, is it right for Mysterio to keep squeezing said balls for more money.

Personally I think it's fine. Guy is practically a bionic man, with all the surgeries he's had to get over the years, yet he still goes out there, and performs a dangerous style every night and does it well.

Obviously, there is the merchandise he'll sell, but the other thing is that the guy is good. Really good. Easily one of the best of all time. You have never seen a bad Mysterio match. You've maybe seen some that were only good, or at worst average. But there has never been, to my memory, a bad Mysterio match. Not even HBK can stake that claim.

Rollermacka 02-28-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destor (Post 3782690)
every since eddie died he's had them by the balls. they need to steal hernandez from tna. young, got the size, decent worker, mostly healthy. mysterio cant work full time if they dont get the next latino star lined out theyre going to hurting in 5 years.

Isn't Hernandez in his 40s and I wanna say he's had a broken neck in the past too?


I say if WWE really wants to appeal to the Latin market, just go on a wide scale luchadore influx. Take the massive paycheck they'd give Rey, spread that evenly among like 5 masked superstars from AAA or CMLL and push which ever one connects with the crowd.

Jordan 02-28-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain of Fun (Post 3782845)
I guess the question now becomes, is it right for Mysterio to keep squeezing said balls for more money.

Personally I think it's fine. Guy is practically a bionic man, with all the surgeries he's had to get over the years, yet he still goes out there, and performs a dangerous style every night and does it well.

Obviously, there is the merchandise he'll sell, but the other thing is that the guy is good. Really good. Easily one of the best of all time. You have never seen a bad Mysterio match. You've maybe seen some that were only good, or at worst average. But there has never been, to my memory, a bad Mysterio match. Not even HBK can stake that claim.

100% agree

Jordan 02-28-2012 03:33 PM

I have never thought of it, but it would be great for AAA if Rey Mysterio returned after he was finished with WWE. It would be f'n HUGE for them. And personally I really like Rey a lot, however seeing him back in Mexico would be preferable to me than him retire in WWE.

Emperor Smeat 02-28-2012 03:44 PM

In a way, yes considering the WWE waited until very recently to really try to find a real replacement even though it hasn't worked out well with Sin Cara so far. If anything Rey Mysterio's masks are a huge reason considering how great those sell which is something the WWE tried to replicate with Sin Cara.

The only other person who has come close to Rey's Latino popularity was Eddie Guerrero until his untimely death. He was gradually growing in popularity as a face and could have easily passed Rey if he had more time.

They do have Del Rio who was a huge star in Mexico but right now Del Rio likes being a heel after getting tired of being a face for years in Mexico.

Nicky Fives 02-28-2012 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 3782837)
Step One- Keep Rey
Step Two- Give Rey a luchador tag team partner who is bilingual, can work a lucha style as well as the WWE style
Step Three- Give them the tag team titles
Step Four- Drop the tag team titles
Step Five- Give Rey time off for an injury, make it so someone like Del Rio attacked him
Step Six- Have his partner run with the ball and get revenge
Step Seven- Elevate the partner to a predominate singles role while Rey is off
Step Eight- Sell merchandise
Step Nine- Forget about Rey and his weak knees, we have this new guy in his spot who works more and costs less
Step Ten- Don't resign Rey

This makes perfect sense.....

Jordan 02-28-2012 03:46 PM

Del Rio is the best heel. I love how he called people Perro and RATAS

GD 02-28-2012 04:07 PM

I had surgery five times in my left knee.

FourFifty 02-28-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 3782924)
Del Rio is the best heel. I love how he called people Perro and RATAS

SPOILER: show

I'd be more impressed if he called them Rattatas.
http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/media/upl...019Rattata.png

Captain of Fun 02-28-2012 05:17 PM

FourFifty, ladies and gentlemen.

Rammsteinmad 02-28-2012 05:45 PM

I like Rey Rey, and always have done. But he's getting on a bit now and seems to spend more time on the injury list than on the active roster. WWE has been so consistant and exciting the last year, that I've barely noticed Mysterio's absence. So I wouldn't be bothered if he came back or not.

Would be a good move for the company though, since he makes shit loads of money for them.

CSL 02-28-2012 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain of Fun (Post 3782845)
I guess the question now becomes, is it right for Mysterio to keep squeezing said balls for more money.

Personally I think it's fine. Guy is practically a bionic man, with all the surgeries he's had to get over the years, yet he still goes out there, and performs a dangerous style every night and does it well.

Obviously, there is the merchandise he'll sell, but the other thing is that the guy is good. Really good. Easily one of the best of all time. You have never seen a bad Mysterio match. You've maybe seen some that were only good, or at worst average. But there has never been, to my memory, a bad Mysterio match. Not even HBK can stake that claim.


St. Jimmy 02-28-2012 10:54 PM

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Destor 02-28-2012 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3782696)
Hernandez is basically a bigger Hunico. Not what they need.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain of Fun (Post 3782700)
And he isn't even half as good as Mysterio. Hopefully, Sin Cara can bounce back from his first run. The crowd seems to be into him, so I don't think WWE should give up on him just yet. He's not the first guy to have a rough start with the company.

really think what the wee marketing machine could do with a guy like hernandez is being over looked here. Herandez could be the mexican cena. BUT WHATEVER.

Mistico has hit a rough patch and the fed is likely to give up on him so i kinda write him off at this point despite the fact he IS EXACTLY what they need. just some seasoning on the Fed style of working is all he needs. its not as easy to "dumb down" how you work as people might think. especially going from lucha and thats if you ignore the fact lucha = working in a mirror. regardless they dont really do second tries all to well.

TheFallenOneX 02-28-2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 3782837)
Step One- Keep Rey
Step Two- Give Rey a luchador tag team partner who is bilingual, can work a lucha style as well as the WWE style
Step Three- Give them the tag team titles
Step Four- Drop the tag team titles
Step Five- Give Rey time off for an injury, make it so someone like Del Rio attacked him
Step Six- Have his partner run with the ball and get revenge
Step Seven- Elevate the partner to a predominate singles role while Rey is off
Step Eight- Sell merchandise
Step Nine- Forget about Rey and his weak knees, we have this new guy in his spot who works more and costs less
Step Ten- Don't resign Rey

Step Eleven- Profit

DLVH84 02-29-2012 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 3782904)
Isn't Hernandez in his 40s and I wanna say he's had a broken neck in the past too?


I say if WWE really wants to appeal to the Latin market, just go on a wide scale luchadore influx. Take the massive paycheck they'd give Rey, spread that evenly among like 5 masked superstars from AAA or CMLL and push which ever one connects with the crowd.

No, next year, Hernandez will turn 40.

stultiloquy 02-29-2012 02:02 AM

I would say so.
While he isn't quite the performer he once was, he rakes in so much profit through merch alone that signing him to what he's asking should still make good fiscal sense.

KaosDarksol 02-29-2012 05:00 PM

God I would love to see sin cara return and botch every match rather than see mysterious on my tv ever again

Gertner 03-01-2012 11:56 AM

Rey Mysterio is a once in a lifetime wrestler.

He speaks excellent english and spanish , has a unique look, rarely puts on a bad match, and his size relates well to kids. I think he can't be replaced.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-01-2012 11:59 AM

It's time to go to plan B

Bring back DA JOOCE.

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2012 08:34 PM

Rey Mysterio is definitely a special case, but so is Sin Cara. The WWE simply moved him straight into the limelight way too early. He is legitimately one of the biggest draws in the entire industry, and even in his short time in the WWE has moved a ton of merchandise. The WWE are fools if they pull the plug on Sin Cara so soon. Just don't shoot a wad with him just yet.

I still think Hunico could be great for Hispanic viewership. The guy has a legitimately interesting story that could easily be used to make him a likeable babyface. I've also heard good things about a young guy down in Mexico called Mascara Dorada. He's only 23, but seems pretty incredible. Give him a two years in the developmental system and see how he goes. Rey Mysterio's little cousin is also a professional wrestler. Why not give him a crack?

James Steele 03-03-2012 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3786482)
Rey Mysterio is definitely a special case, but so is Sin Cara. The WWE simply moved him straight into the limelight way too early. He is legitimately one of the biggest draws in the entire industry, and even in his short time in the WWE has moved a ton of merchandise. The WWE are fools if they pull the plug on Sin Cara so soon. Just don't shoot a wad with him just yet.

If he keeps botching and getting injured or failing drug tests then it won't be WWE's fault he doesn't make it. If anything, WWE is pushing Sin Cara in spite of himself.

Mr. Nerfect 03-03-2012 09:16 PM

That's true, but that doesn't mean it's time to abort right now.

Theo Dious 03-04-2012 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3786482)
The WWE simply moved him straight into the limelight way too early. He is legitimately one of the biggest draws in the entire industry,

How can these two things possibly be concurrently true?

Mr. Nerfect 03-04-2012 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 3786586)
How can these two things possibly be concurrently true?

Do you know how much money the dude made in Mexico? Shitloads. The WWE just pushed him before he nailed down their style.

Damndirty 03-04-2012 04:01 PM

As much as most of us love Rey, truth be known that his WWE championship wins are always overshadowed by the chosen Super Face. What's the point of him getting the primary title if they keep burying him? He is a main eventer, despite this, and would bring a good tag team championship reign with Sin Cara. One thing I did like about WCW was that every show had one or two Luchadore matches.

Kane Knight 03-04-2012 06:04 PM

Man, I thought drug-taking attention whores would have more integrity than this.

Gerard 03-04-2012 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3782633)
Does Rey Mysterio pretty much have the WWE by the balls?


With the aid of a stepladder, maybe. :shifty:


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