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Fox 04-10-2012 02:20 PM

Why Isn't WWE Capitalizing on Daniel Bryan?
 
Bryan's run as World Heavyweight Champion may not have set the world on fire, but there's no questioning that Bryan's "Yes!"/finger pointing gimmick got over HUGE.

Things like Daniels' gimmick and the interaction with the fans is something that the WWE has been sorely lacking for a long time. He got jobbed out at WrestleMania and he hasn't really been featured on WWE TV much since WrestleMania. Now there are rumors coming in saying that the WWE brass want the "Yes" thing to die down.

Why aren't they capitalizing on this? I think they need to put Bryan right back into the World Title picture against Sheamus, have him on every RAW and every Smackdown, and keep building him up. Bryan has the makings of a mega star right now, and I feel like WWE is just letting the greatness of his gimmick slip through the cracks.

KaosDarksol 04-10-2012 02:34 PM

They released a shirt that is already on back order there's capitalizing for you

Tornado 04-10-2012 02:40 PM

They've released a shirt yes, but they should be using him as the focus of Smackdown!

CSL 04-10-2012 02:43 PM

haven't noticed the YES! thing getting over huge outside of last weeks RAW and a few guys on the internet

Nicky Fives 04-10-2012 03:05 PM

It's only over with the smarks..... little kiddies don;t give two shits about him unless he's face.... simple as that......

Xero 04-10-2012 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by KaosDarksol (Post 3822467)
They released a shirt that is already on back order there's capitalizing for you

They probably made like 100 because they figured they wouldn't sell.

Obviously exaggerating but they probably did make a very small amount.

Supreme Olajuwon 04-10-2012 03:24 PM

I dunno man. Maybe they're working on a slow build. If they push him too quickly people will complain that he's being shoved down our throats. If they don't push him immediately people say they're wasting his potential.

I remember when Punk came back after MITB everyone was like "Fuck why are they bringing him back already? Let it simmer a little bit and let the fans grow hungry for it!"

I also remember people clamoring for Ryder to get his push, then when he did people were like "Why are they rushing this? Don't put him on tv all the time."


So to answer your question, I don't know.

Damian Rey 04-10-2012 03:30 PM

This is tyical WWE writing. Theyve constantly "missed the biat" on guys wo could have been made bigger by capitalizing on th organic rise in frowd response only to be ket in the same role and have their popularity die down. Same thing happened with both Matt Hardy and Christian. Ill never understand why they pull the rug from under guys who finally found a connection with the crowd. Makes no sense. Nonetheless, if shirts keep selling, and crowd support via signs and chants keep coming, hopefully creative sees the kind of opportunity thats present and takes advantage before the steam dies down

theregulator 04-10-2012 03:38 PM

YES

XL 04-10-2012 03:39 PM

Why isn't WWE capitalising on Bryan?

"Cos it's not part of the plan"

RiX1024 04-10-2012 04:08 PM

Yes is the new What. I'm still waiting for him to tell the ref he's got til 5....I don't know if that's happened in WWE.

Jordan 04-10-2012 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by RiX1024 (Post 3822534)
Yes is the new What. I'm still waiting for him to tell the ref he's got til 5....I don't know if that's happened in WWE.

I think Punk ripped him off again with that one.

Rammsteinmad 04-10-2012 05:00 PM

Who needs Daniel Bryan when we have Brodus Clay, Mason Ryan, Ryback, Lord Tansai and Brock Lesnar! :foc:

Rammsteinmad 04-10-2012 05:01 PM

Whoops, dunno why I mentioned Mason Ryan. Guess seeing him on Raw made me think he was 'back' again or something.

PrettyCool 04-10-2012 05:01 PM

RYBACK is awesome tho, im sooooooooooo excited for him

Gertner 04-10-2012 05:39 PM

There's nothing to capitalize on. It's just a bunch of smarks clinging on to something stupid. It'll die down fast.

Lock Jaw 04-10-2012 05:50 PM

Yeah. The whole "YES" thing might spread to non-smarks a bit because they were like "Ha ha, that sounds like fun", but will die down quick when they realize they are chanting for Daniel Bryan.

Shadrick 04-10-2012 05:51 PM

15 posts before you posted Gertner. You're slipping.

Gertner 04-10-2012 05:54 PM

lol I only post here at work and I'm on afternoons

itsmeJD 04-10-2012 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 3822632)
15 posts before you posted Gertner. You're slipping.

I was thinking this exact thing when I read through. Thank you for clarifying Gertner. A Daniel Bryan thread wouldn't be the same without you.

Gertner 04-10-2012 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 3822511)
This is tyical WWE writing. Theyve constantly "missed the biat" on guys wo could have been made bigger by capitalizing on th organic rise in frowd response only to be ket in the same role and have their popularity die down. Same thing happened with both Matt Hardy and Christian. Ill never understand why they pull the rug from under guys who finally found a connection with the crowd. Makes no sense. Nonetheless, if shirts keep selling, and crowd support via signs and chants keep coming, hopefully creative sees the kind of opportunity thats present and takes advantage before the steam dies down

Matt Hardy will not die.........well besides of a drug overdose and driving drunk

itsmeJD 04-10-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3822745)
Matt Hardy will not die.........well besides of a drug overdose and driving drunk

I think Jeff gets the OD, Matt more than likely dies by DUI on an ATV driving back home from the gas station with some PBR.

Gertner 04-10-2012 07:06 PM

What is it with wrestlers from North Carolina having messed up lives?

dingdongyo 04-10-2012 08:03 PM

i found the "yes!" junk mildly irritating and i'm fine with killing it.

dronepool 04-10-2012 08:08 PM

Gertner had a word with Vince.

Emperor Smeat 04-10-2012 08:13 PM

They've done stuff like this a lot in the past especially when the wrestler is getting popular without the benefit of the writers or original intention of the WWE. Usually by the time the WWE realizes this, too much time has passed or that golden window of opportunity is gone for the wrestler.

RVD is one I can think of where he was cheered a lot during the Invasion storyline even though he was on the bad side. WWE didn't bother to give him a mega push until years later although RVD ended up being stupid and wasted that opportunity in favor of weed.

Ryder is a recent example and it took the WWE months to figure out people really wanted to see him on tv and in a feud against Ziggler for the US title.

Fox 04-10-2012 08:27 PM

I don't agree with the sentiment that only marks like Daniel Bryan's "Yes!" It's been heard in the crowd during every show since WrestleMania, and a few before it as well. It's just one of those stupid things that fans catch on to.

Honestly, I think that making the t-shirt already was a bad idea. They should have let it build and evolve on its own before releasing a shirt sometime down the line.

Daniel Bryan's "Yes!"/"World Heavyweight Champion!" schtick was something special, and there's no real explanation except that the schtick plus Daniel Bryan's selling of the schtick plus him actually winning matches led to greatness. It's the type of thing that when even a casual fan sees him doing it they're going to smile and want to know what the hell is up with this guy. That is GOOD for the WWE.

The problem is that WWE never knows what to do when a good thing falls in their lap. Vince Russo was good about that when he was in the WWF - when a superstar "found" something, he knew how to capitalize on it and get it over even bigger. Ever since he left, they just seem to fuck up every good thing that comes their way.

"Psycho Kane" who came to the ring all strapped in like a mad man - that should have stuck. RVD's overness in 2001/2002 should have led to a World Title run. Christian was a man on fire before he left for TNA, but he just kept getting jobbed out to Cena. Heel "Legend Killer" Randy Orton was incredible and he was massively over - so they turned him full fledged pussy-ass face. Some could argue that The Brian Kendrick should've been given a bigger push (others will argue that TBK shouldn't have smoked so much weed). Cena was massively over with both male and female fans with his thuggish rapper gimmick - they took away everything that got him over in the beginning. And then of course there's CM Punk, who probably should've stayed away from the WWE for a little while longer after MITB, and probably should've stayed a heel after MITB, too.

Fucking rant. I really shouldn't be complaining since WWE is the most watchable it's been in a long, long time. Guys like Punk, Bryan, Jericho and Orton are running the place, Lesnar is back. WWE is in a good place, but I still see them losing momentum with guys like Daniel Bryan by not giving them a decent segment on RAW. What if they just had Stone Cold skip a RAW or two when he was just catching fire?

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2012 02:02 AM

Because Vince McMahon actually hates money. It's a deep, dark secret of his -- but it's why he's done stuff like the the XFL, WWE Films and is going to do the WWE Network. If Daniel Bryan wasn't over, he'd have a much better chance of being pushed. True story.

PrettyCool 04-11-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3823252)
Because Vince McMahon actually hates money. It's a deep, dark secret of his -- but it's why he's done stuff like the the XFL, WWE Films and is going to do the WWE Network. If Daniel Bryan wasn't over, he'd have a much better chance of being pushed. True story.

If Daniel Bryan had Ryback's body but Daniel Bryan's wrestling skills, he would be WWE champ

JimmyMess 04-11-2012 10:41 AM

Step 1. Sign Brian Danielson/Daniel Bryan

Step 2.

Step 3. Profit.


I'd say they are doing well

PrettyCool 04-11-2012 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyMess (Post 3823402)
Step 1. Sign Brian Danielson/Daniel Bryan

Step 2.

Step 3. Profit.


I'd say they are doing well


Step 1. Sign Brian Danielson/Daniel Bryan

Step 2. YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

Step 3. Profit.

U Know? 04-11-2012 11:14 AM

I think i no why the WWE is'nt using daniel brian proply. I think they think he is like Benoit and they wnat to make sure he doesnt kill his family first. So thats why?

PrettyCool 04-11-2012 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by U Know? (Post 3823426)
I think i no why the WWE is'nt using daniel brian proply. I think they think he is like Benoit and they wnat to make sure he doesnt kill his family first. So thats why?

I disagree...WWE trust Bryan imo.

U Know? 04-11-2012 11:20 AM

i think they dont trust him yet cuz he done broke up with AJ and that is just DUM cuz she is like a 10 or a 8. Not an 9 tho.

Gertner 04-11-2012 12:09 PM

A meeting of the minds right there

Mr. Nerfect 04-11-2012 05:35 PM

Gertner is actually in third place for trolliness in here. Bizarre.

Damian Rey 04-11-2012 05:53 PM

Christ at that recent exchange. Honestly though, most of us are jumping the gun a bit here. Yes, it would have been cool to see creative jump on the "YES" bandwagon, but after only one week it is far too early to do so. 2 out of 3 falls sounds like it could be good, and its fairly apparent they have something planned for Daniel Bryan.

Im retracting my earlier statement and going to be in wait and see mode.

PrettyCool 04-11-2012 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damian Rey (Post 3823804)
Christ at that recent exchange. Honestly though, most of us are jumping the gun a bit here. Yes, it would have been cool to see creative jump on the "YES" bandwagon, but after only one week it is far too early to do so. 2 out of 3 falls sounds like it could be good, and its fairly apparent they have something planned for Daniel Bryan.

Im retracting my earlier statement and going to be in wait and see mode.

They'll show you...you'll see!

Fignuts 04-11-2012 07:27 PM

the fuck are you talking about?

He IS still in the title picture, and in a 2/3 falls match at the PPV.

He has a new shirt.

He was on Piper's Pit.

It's only been 2 fucking weeks. Calm the fuck down.

Ol Dirty Dastard 04-11-2012 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3823941)
the fuck are you talking about?

He IS still in the title picture, and in a 2/3 falls match at the PPV.

He has a new shirt.

He was on Piper's Pit.

It's only been 2 fucking weeks. Calm the fuck down.

This. From here DB is going to sink or swim. The best guys in the company are able to persevere through not being massively pushed, such as CM Punk He got jobbed to everybody and their mother, and look how far he has come. He found a way. And really, if Daniel Bryan ends up like a Dolph Ziggler type, who the company relies on to perform in big situations when asked even if not hugely pushed, it'll mean he's in the game and not floundering the same as a Paul London or Carlito and Primo. Unlike the guys who seem to lose their passion, Bryan seems to posess a winning attitude... so in short, YES!


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