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St. Jimmy 05-27-2012 04:18 AM

So let's talk Brock Lesnar (Spoilers)
 
Don't know if shoot or work, but this happened:

Bryan Alvarez ‏<s>@</s>bryanalvarez BROCK IS HERE <s>#</s>UFC146 <s>#</s>WWE

Bryan Alvarez ‏<s>@</s>bryanalvarez Dana regarding Brock: He was here, that says it all. Said he thinks he's coming back but won't say more. <s>#</s>UFC <s>#</s>WWE <s>#</s>RAW


Bryan Alvarez ‏<s>@</s>bryanalvarez
Brock texted Dana a week and a half ago and said he wanted to come to show, and to keep it secret <s>#</s>RAW <s>#</s>UFC <s>#</s>WWE


Bryan Alvarez ‏<s>@</s>bryanalvarez
Dana says he and Brock are going to talk later tonight <s>#</s>RAW <s>#</s>UFC <s>#</s>WWE

Bryan Alvarez ‏<s>@</s>bryanalvarez

WWE should be finding out about Brock right about now. Tomorrow will be a lot of fun~! ‪<s>#</s>UFC ‪<s>#</s>RAW ‪<s>#</s>WWE

Juan 05-27-2012 04:21 AM

#work

Mr. Nerfect 05-27-2012 05:21 AM

Yeah, sounds like a work to me. Especially if Brock has the contract that was reported.

St. Jimmy 05-27-2012 06:04 AM

Meltzer does not think this is a work and does not think that Vince/Dana are/would work together.

St. Jimmy 05-27-2012 06:06 AM

Speculation currently is that because of the looseness of Brock's contract that Lesnar may do both MMA in UFC and do the dates for WWE.

Mr. Nerfect 05-27-2012 06:15 AM

I don't think it's a work between the WWE and the UFC, but merely speculation from Alvarez. I don't think that it's anything to be really concerned about.

St. Jimmy 05-27-2012 06:21 AM

To have Brock show up in front of all those people to be nothing? That would be... something...

Mr. Nerfect 05-27-2012 06:22 AM

Maybe he wanted to watch the show?

St. Jimmy 05-27-2012 06:23 AM

Right, because Brock Lesnar - the guy who only likes to kill and eat, flew to Vegas to just watch the Main Event of a UFC event.

Mr. Nerfect 05-27-2012 06:29 AM

Why not? Maybe he and Sable wanted to spend some time in Vegas together? Maybe he knew right well it would create a stir and keep himself into people's minds while he's off television in an active role?

St. Jimmy 05-27-2012 06:31 AM

Brock Doesn't leave the house unless he's killing something or getting paid. The story about him pulling Double Duty makes the most sense.

Mr. Nerfect 05-27-2012 06:39 AM

Why do a double schedule? UFC and WWE are very different kinds of performance, and probably require different regimens. What if he received an injury in the WWE that prevented him from fighting for the UFC, or vice versa?

St. Jimmy 05-27-2012 06:44 AM

Money. Dana is capable of putting huge carrots in front of peoples faces.

Mr. Nerfect 05-27-2012 06:45 AM

Why would the WWE offer Brock a contract that would allow him to compete elsewhere?

whiteyford 05-27-2012 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3870604)
Maybe he knew right well it would create a stir and keep himself into people's minds while he's off television in an active role?

Noid with common sense:roll: Stop thinking logically.

mike adamle 05-27-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 3870614)
Why would the WWE offer Brock a contract that would allow him to compete elsewhere?

He draws people in, that's enough right there.

Keith 05-27-2012 09:04 AM

What I don't understand is why Brock would go back to MMA and risk losing fights, which would damage his reputation as a "monster" in WWE.

Also, why go back to MMA and fight "for real" when you can stay in WWE (which is sports entertainment) and earn a whole lot of money? He's already been UFC Champion, he proved himself. He shouldn't risk his health and well-being.

Fox 05-27-2012 09:18 AM

Double duty schedule? I think not. The amount of training and focus that goes into preparing for an MMA fight is tremendously time and energy consuming. I don't think Lesnar, or anyone for that matter, would want to do both at the same time. Especially considering the factors: if Lesnar got hurt in UFC, it'd effect Vince and the WWE, and vice-versa. Not only that, but Brock has had a long list of serious injuries and sicknesses over the past couple years, which is why he left the UFC in the first place. Why would he already want to come back? And don't say money because I'm willing to bet that Sable and Brock's great-great-great grandchildren are already set for life.


This is just to stir shit and raise some interest in the WWE, a product that sorely needs some interest re-injected into it. Maybe Brock did go to the UFC PPV and talk with Dana White. Maybe he wanted to go see some friends, or maybe there are other reasons for him going there (there could be a million - maybe they're working on a Rise of Brock UFC DVD or something - WHO KNOWS!).

This might just be a way of trying to spike ratings for RAW on Monday, hoping that people tune in to see if there is news on Lesnar/UFC.

Crimson 05-27-2012 11:14 AM

Yea^^ I agree,that double duty theory ..just so many things wrong with it.

erickman 05-27-2012 11:15 AM

could it be like a king mo thing, but i thought dana did not like the mma wrestling thing.

Savio 05-27-2012 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox (Post 3870640)
This might just be a way of trying to spike ratings for RAW on Monday, hoping that people tune in to see if there is news on Lesnar/UFC.

That or he just wanted to see Mir get his face beat.

Hanso Amore 05-27-2012 12:15 PM

IT MUST MEAN SOMETHING MORE THAN HIM JUST WANTING TO WATCH THE FIGHTS.

I mean all those fights taker goes to certainly led him to a MMA career.

Fox 05-27-2012 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3870684)
That or he just wanted to see Mir get his face beat.

I actually thought about that after I made that last post. Makes perfect sense. It feels like they're trying to build Frank Mir up to be the next Brock Lesnar/Chuck Liddell/Tito Ortiz guy for them. Lesnar seems like the kind of guy who would think "I fucked him up TWICE" and would want to go see him NOT get pushed to the top spot in the UFC.

I can see Mir walking backstage after getting his ass handed to him and Lesnar is standing there in the hallway smirking and shaking his head like an asshole.

Crimson 05-27-2012 12:55 PM

Then Cain passes by and Brock cradles into the fetal position

Mr. Nerfect 05-27-2012 04:58 PM

Is it possible the two sides could reach some sort of mutual merchandising agreement? Maybe there was a meeting between White and Lesnar about using Lesnar's likeness for DVDs, video games and that sort of thing?

steveweiser 05-27-2012 05:11 PM

Well as a big fan of both pro wrestling and also MMA, i understand they are both different in their own respective leagues and the whole sports and entertaiment thing but i'd love to see Lesnar participating in both WWE and UFC. It may not be the case and possibly just a chat over other matters or simply a catch up but IF this was to happen i would be cool with it, just slightly curious as to what the situation would be as UFC fighters do become injured as a result of their sport and there is always room for injuries in the WWE so what would happen if he bacame injured whilst participating in one company and the impact therefore in the other companies contract with him.

Anyway, fingers crossed it works out and hopefully see more of Lesnar, which is never a bad thing.

St. Jimmy 05-27-2012 11:05 PM

If Lesnar does this it really puts a big fucking cramp in King Mo's thunder.

Blitz 05-27-2012 11:08 PM

rofl

GD 05-27-2012 11:09 PM

Dana White works for Vince McMahon, just like Vince Russo.

Damndirty 05-27-2012 11:20 PM

If it is true that he'll do both (though I highly doubt it), he wouldn't be doing it long term, maybe a couple weeks at best. When things get tough, Brock likes to bail. He may be a good fighter, but all in all he's a big baby when it doesn't go his way.

tjmidnight420 05-28-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 3871163)
If Lesnar does this it really puts a big fucking cramp in King Mo's thunder.

Yeah, to say the least.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damndirty (Post 3871171)
If it is true that he'll do both (though I highly doubt it), he wouldn't be doing it long term, maybe a couple weeks at best. When things get tough, Brock likes to bail. He may be a good fighter, but all in all he's a big baby when it doesn't go his way.

It takes longer than a couple of weeks to train for a fight, and while I agree that Brocks MO makes him 'seem' chickenshit, how do we know that this isn't exactly what he wanted in the first? Could've been his plan when he was still with UFC and rumors were rampant that he wanted back in WWE.

ace3025 05-28-2012 01:57 PM

Honestly, it seems like a cheap way for both WWE and UFC to get media attention. Brock retired, came back, and then "quit". Theonly logical place Brock would go for a job would UFC. I bet Vince and Dana made a deal, prolly something based on revenue shares and whatnot, to have Brock " stop by and chat". It keeps him in public eye, causes controversy for both sides, and puts both companies in the spotlight.

As far as the double duty, Brock couldn't handle the daily trainings of the nfl to even make the team, I highly doubt he has it in him to train for two completely different types of physical performances

Keith 05-28-2012 02:08 PM

Now it is being rumored that Lesnar showing up in UFC was all a ploy to advance his WWE storyline. Like, Vince told him to show up.

I'm not sure Lesnar would do that, though.

tjmidnight420 05-28-2012 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 3871613)
Now it is being rumored that Lesnar showing up in UFC was all a ploy to advance his WWE storyline. Like, Vince told him to show up.

Source: The Wrestling Observer
– Brock Lesnar did meet with Dana White following the UFC 146 PPV event in Las Vegas. Word is that the meeting didn’t go over well. It is felt that if Lesnar’s UFC appearance is mentioned on RAW that the whole thing is a way of advancing his WWE storyline, where he has “left the promotion.” UFC had nothing to do with this other than Brock wanting a meeting with Dana White.


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