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XL 06-10-2012 06:51 PM

How do you solve this "Roster Depth" problem?
 
Reports say that WWE are concerned (or at least should be) with the lack of roster depth. With Orton, Mysterio and Jericho suspended, Del Rio, Henry and Barrett on the injured list, HHH, Taker, Rock and Brock nowhere to be seen, WWE are severly lacking stars at the top of the card.

With that in mind, Vince comes to YOU for the solution.

What do you do?

Shisen Kopf 06-10-2012 06:52 PM

Make Ryback the champ

Fignuts 06-10-2012 06:58 PM

Clone Ryback.

Triple Naitch 06-10-2012 06:58 PM

Just gotta throw shit against the wall and see what sticks. Give Dolph, Ryback, Cody, Kofi, and Sin Cara a chance. See what works. Sometimes you get CM Punk, sometimes you get Billy Gunn. Then move in hard working lower card guys to replace their current spot (Hawkins, Kidd, Sandow, Cesaro, McIntyre).

BizarroKing 06-10-2012 06:59 PM

Push Ryder to the moon.

/thread.

Ruien 06-10-2012 07:14 PM

Buy TNA.

#1-norm-fan 06-10-2012 07:14 PM

I take some guys who are up there near main event level that I trust and am a big fan of and make them look like they're on par with Cena, Punk, Sheamus, etc. And while doing that, I stop having the guys like Punk that I've already got at that level lose on TV constantly so it actually seems like scoring a win over them would be a monumental achievement.

Also, I don't stress so much about Del Rio and Barrett because neither of them should be considered main eventers yet. If that's your gauge of what a main eventer needs to be, you're doing it wrong.

I said in another thread, there's too much parity in wrestling. The top guys lose a lot. Punk just lost 3 times in one month yet he's the WWE champion. When stuff like that is happening, it jumbles everyone together. There's no concept of card placement when it comes to ability in matches. The way you build a star is by having him play a role to perfection. CM Punk is the "Best in the World" because of his real life ability to put on great matches. If he loses constantly, then within the world of wrestling, that makes him quite average. There needs to be more focus on this.

I'd start now with Dolph Ziggler. His matches with Sheamus did WONDERS for this idea. Start now and book him as this generation's Ric Flair. The heel who people just despise because despite his cheating ways, he's actually really good too. Give him a few months where he finally "gets it", drops Vickie and starts winning matches against the mid-card guys to the point where it's logical that he can step up to the next level. Meanwhile, you've got Sheamus taking on all comers and retaining the title. Doesn't lose a match. Then finally, it sets up Ziggler vs Sheamus for the title in an epic 30 or so minute match where Ziggler pulls off the shocking upset with a subtle little pull of the tights when he realizes that as good as he is, he may not be able to finish the job cleanly.

Ideally Sheamus' character would be tweaked enough at this point to where he's not getting stale like before and you can set up a feud that could potentially get both men over to a new level. You can even give Sheamus the title back at the end and both men are at a level where everyone should be saying "Man, I gotta get a shot at beating Dolph Ziggler. That could make my career." At the same time, it raises the World Title up and anyone who gets involved in that picture, provided they've already been booked in a somewhat deserving fashion, gets an automatic boost.

... I went on a little rant there. But yeah...

#1-norm-fan 06-10-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 3886537)
Make Ryback the champ

I actually probably could have said this too...

Ryback is the next big thing. Just throwing him in the main event scene soon and allowing him to be unstoppable as midcard to upper midcard guys try and fail to be the first to take him down would be awesome.

That's one reason I like the idea of a roster split. You can have one show lean more towards guys getting over via awesome wrestling and one show based more on characters with some great matches thrown in too. You can make everyone happy with one company. The writers are too scatter-brained though.

#1-norm-fan 06-10-2012 07:18 PM

Also, Johnny Curtis needs to start being groomed right now, dammit.

#1-norm-fan 06-10-2012 07:23 PM

This entire thread make me want to play TEW...

bigslimjj 06-10-2012 07:24 PM

Cody Rhodes is my pick for next main event star. Hes great on promos and steals shows with his matches. Id put him in against Sheamus and add in some super heel stuff for him to go over. Maybe beat up Dusty,smack around Striker or Lawler. I would also let Kane get another title run on Smackdown as a face. Since we have heel big show and Bryan for him to work with there's opponents that can put together a good feud. Id put AJ with him as his crazy chick too. That would beef up the womens division.

#1-norm-fan 06-10-2012 07:43 PM

Cody needs to pack some pounds on before I'd want him in the main event.

I don't mind him as a midcarder. He just doesn't have that main event feel to him though outside his last name.

Ultra Mantis 06-10-2012 07:46 PM

Give the midcarders something to do. Put them in actual angles, see what clicks and what doesnt then push the guys who are getting over with the live crowds. Even the guys who are "almost there" like Cody and Ziggler just seem to be stuck in a loop of challenging for midcard titles instead of moving up. Give them some wins, have Cody actually go over an Orton or Big Show.

Nicky Fives 06-10-2012 07:52 PM

fire all your writers and hire people who can actually book wrestling that will push the midcard talent (Ziggler, Rhodes, Barrett, etc.).....

XCaliber 06-10-2012 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BizarroKing (Post 3886543)
Push Sandow to the moon.

/thread.

Fixed oh and you're welcome but seriously though since nXt is supposedly in a transtiion period right now anyway with a crop of new talent coming in why not call up the bulk of the current roster temporarily and use them and see how they pan out before they go and future endeavor them?

GD 06-10-2012 07:54 PM

The WWE should repackage Ted DiBiase Jr.

#1-norm-fan 06-10-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 3886604)
Give the midcarders something to do. Put them in actual angles, see what clicks and what doesnt then push the guys who are getting over with the live crowds. Even the guys who are "almost there" like Cody and Ziggler just seem to be stuck in a loop of challenging for midcard titles instead of moving up. Give them some wins, have Cody actually go over an Orton or Big Show.

This also. Feuds outside of the main event have been almost non-existent on Raw especially for a long time. They don't even try. Ridiculous.

Wake Up Call 06-10-2012 08:08 PM

Stop being such a conservative "wrestling" company and push the envelope. No one is interested in the crap that the WWE produces now. The writing sucks, the characters suck, and the product overall sucks.

Triple Naitch 06-10-2012 08:09 PM

Sounds like the writers need a.....Wake Up Call.

Triple Naitch 06-10-2012 08:10 PM

Not posting Horatio Caine.

Wake Up Call 06-10-2012 08:12 PM

Vince McMahon has killed Professional Wrestling.

BodySlam 06-10-2012 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 3886577)
This entire thread make me want to play TEW...

same lol

Tazz Dan 06-10-2012 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wake Up Call (Post 3886654)
Vince McMahon has killed Professional Wrestling.

He also made professional wrestling. Only fair I guess

GD 06-10-2012 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondo Gecko (Post 3886666)
With the lack of depth in the current WWE roster, there should be some sort of talent exchange program. It would benefit both the companies. And I am not even kidding.


Damndirty 06-10-2012 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 3886614)
fire all your writers and hire people who can actually book wrestling that will push the midcard talent (Ziggler, Rhodes, Barrett, etc.).....

If the writers are directly responsible for all the primary storylines carried out, then fucking right they need to go! If the higher ups, including the owner, are more directly responsible, then their interference shows they don't give the writers the freedom to utilitze proper storytelling because the elites are selfish or they are not confident with the writers. One thing is for sure, upper management and writing management is either not getting along or the entire management staff is using the shows for propaganda purposes only.

Indifferent Clox 06-11-2012 09:06 AM

Further develop distinctions between title division. You need a huge entertaining angle for each belt. Their needs to be a star of each division, who isn't necessarily the champion. I'd have hunico become u.s. champion play up the immigration stuff maybe, have sin cara ( the star) go to take him on but lose. Have a returning Bourne have a good 3 ppv. Rivalry with him. Hunico still champion takes on sin cara once again but still wins. He has a rivalry with Tyson Kidd and is finally defeated. Sin cara then takes on hunico in non title feud whilst Tyson Kidd and Bourne feud. Tyson still champion takes on Dean Ambrose and is defeated. Sin cara finally beats hunico, takes on Tyson Kidd and Evan Bourne in a number one contenders series. While Dean Ambrose takes on hunico and finally Seth Rollins, who almost beats him and becomes the new face of the division.



You need to have all your people in rotating angles, not the same few in all of them. It makes your roster seem more interesting as you never know what the ppv card will be. Main eventers should be consistent but the other titles should be used to showcase the roster and build a few big names.

Rammsteinmad 06-11-2012 09:21 AM

Bring back more retired wrestlers who are old and way past their primes.

GD 06-11-2012 03:09 PM

WWE could probably use the following wrestlers

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...sta_1_full.png

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...ers_1_full.png (As a full blown mid carder)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...ust_3_full.png (Feud with Codswell)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...erg_1_full.png (For spearing random people)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...ane_1_full.png (More flavor to the non-existing Lightweight division)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...JBL_1_full.png (Commentator/Heel Manager)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...son_1_full.png (IC contender level)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...orm_1_full.png (Random feud with Tyson and Bryan)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...ita_1_full.png (Women's)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...ria_1_full.png (Backstage)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...yse_1_full.png (Eye Candy)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...ool_1_full.png (Women's)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...ley_1_full.png (As a talent enhancer)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...ton_1_full.png (US/IC level)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...man_1_full.png (More flavor to the non-existing Lightweight division)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...iri_1_full.png (See Helms and X-Pac)

http://www.wwe.com/f/styles/supersta...lov_1_full.png (Comic relief)

I miss Umanga :(

James Steele 06-11-2012 03:17 PM

I'm all for Batista, JBL, and Shelton Benjamin being brought back.

Lock Jaw 06-11-2012 03:28 PM

Forget Sin Cara, and turn Hunico face and make him your big Mexican star.

Damndirty 06-11-2012 03:30 PM

I think Hunico should make a new mask

Lock Jaw 06-11-2012 03:35 PM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/qsi63N-91lk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Seriously, what a nice sounding guy. Much more relate-able and likable than Sin Cara.

CSL 06-11-2012 03:45 PM

When great men fall wearily, when an empire needs a saviour, when a dawn of destruction and pestilence threatens the very fabric of that empire, there is only one man capable of casting light onto the place we thought destined to be shrouded in shadows
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CSL 06-11-2012 03:49 PM

would have been better if autoplay was working with a spoiler and theme. Fascists

GD 06-11-2012 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 3888274)
Forget Sin Cara, and turn Hunico face and make him your big Mexican star.

Hunico is American. USA! USA! USA!

GD 06-11-2012 04:07 PM

Sid will probably no show every single RAW and PPV.

CSL 06-11-2012 04:09 PM

what the fuck did you just say

CSL 06-11-2012 04:09 PM

do you want to get powerbombed?

GD 06-11-2012 04:32 PM

What's that smell? Seems like someone went number two in their trunks.

RiX1024 06-11-2012 05:16 PM

Push Mason Ryan.


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