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Autobahn 06-16-2012 11:13 AM

Moments where wrestling went 'too far'
 
Seeing Vince's disgusting impersonation of JR got me thinking of other instances where storylines went just that bit too far and were just poor taste.

This storyline sticks out to me. Anybody have any others?
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Rock Bottom 06-16-2012 11:26 AM

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Theo Dious 06-16-2012 11:48 AM

I am so sick to death of the massive butt-hurt that takes place over JR getting made fun of on TV. EVERYONE gets made fun of on WWE programming. Why the hell is JR supposed to be such a hands-off target?

Ruien 06-16-2012 12:11 PM

No idea. It keeps him fresh in the minds of the fans and truthfully is part of the reason the crown explodes when he comes out (For any reason).

Fignuts 06-16-2012 12:13 PM

It's not even really because it's J.R.

It's because making fun of a condition like that is a scumbag move.

Fignuts 06-16-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 3894147)
No idea. It keeps him fresh in the minds of the fans and truthfully is part of the reason the crown explodes when he comes out (For any reason).

What in the monkey are you talking about?

The crowd explodes when he comes out, because he's one of the best commentators of all time.

Literally thousands of ways to keep him fresh in people's minds without resorting to mocking his illness, so that is a pants on head retarded excuse.

XCaliber 06-16-2012 12:20 PM

The Katie Vick thing with Triple H/Kane was a bit much.

Ruien 06-16-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3894155)
What in the monkey are you talking about?

The crowd explodes when he comes out, because he's one of the best commentators of all time.

Literally thousands of ways to keep him fresh in people's minds without resorting to mocking his illness, so that is a pants on head retarded excuse.

Yes but nothing than the lets pick on the handicap kid to make people feel sorry for him. Pretty sure Vince is not making these jokes with JR's permission. Now if that is the case the situation changes.

WinterDecay 06-16-2012 12:38 PM

I always thought the Oklahoma character in WCW was more making fun of some one with bell's palsy as opposed to lampooning Jim Ross's style of broadcast.

Does the hand in Mae Young even have to be mentioned or is that just rather automatically implied?

Corndad 06-16-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by XCaliber (Post 3894157)
The Katie Vick thing with Triple H/Kane was a bit much.


WinterDecay 06-16-2012 12:50 PM

Oh I thought of another cringe worthy moment ....

Hogan: "The only thing I hate more than a couple of cowards is a couple of cripples."


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Joesgonnakillyou 06-16-2012 12:50 PM

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Not cool

DAMN iNATOR 06-16-2012 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3894149)
It's not even really because it's J.R.

It's because making fun of a condition like that is a scumbag move.

...and him doing this promo:
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and shitting all over the company as if they were to blame for it wasn't? Seems like a double standard to me (and yes, I get that it was a work/worked shoot...)

addy2hotty 06-16-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Autobahn (Post 3894127)
This storyline sticks out to me. Anybody have any others?
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Personally, I think the funeral is one of the funniest things they've ever done in the time I've watched wrestling.

Bossman was gold through all of this.

BigCrippyZ 06-16-2012 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 3894140)
I am so sick to death of the massive butt-hurt that takes place over JR getting made fun of on TV. EVERYONE gets made fun of on WWE programming. Why the hell is JR supposed to be such a hands-off target?

With the recent JR incidents, they've been nothing but intentional bullying IMO. I mean, the incidents have had nothing to do with any storyline or character development and is just strictly entertainment for those (Vince, Cole, HHH?) who are doing it.

It also wouldn't be so bad if they weren't simultaneously using the Be A Star program to try and get the company good publicity. I mean you're talking about a business that is built around having bullies and making fun of others.

As an adult, I understand it's entertainment, but when you're trying to influence kids, who are now essentially their target audience, it doesn't exactly scream consistency to a developing child. Do as we say, not as we do! Sounds like most "authorities" I suppose though.

Wolfpack423 06-16-2012 01:05 PM

Raven crucifying Sandman should be at top of most lists. That was just terrible to do. I don't blame Angle for leaving after that atrocity.

Sandman beating up a legitimate cripple that they named Cripple H with a Singapore Cane.

Vince McMahon mocking JR's Bells Palsy on RAW this week. Also, when he made fun of him after having colon surgery-ridiculous.

Fignuts 06-16-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 3894195)
...and him doing this promo:
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and shitting all over the company as if they were to blame for it wasn't? Seems like a double standard to me (and yes, I get that it was a work/worked shoot...)

Mentioning it in a promo and making fun of the disease are two very different things.

Wolfpack423 06-16-2012 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts (Post 3894149)
It's not even really because it's J.R.

It's because making fun of a condition like that is a scumbag move.

Yeah exactly. It's not that they're making fun of JR. It's that they're making fun of his Bells Palsy. It's a huge difference. On the other hand, I don't get why JR gets so much disrespect with everything he did for the company. He was one of the best real life GMs in my opinion. John Laurinitis honestly hasn't been nearly as effective in terms of signings and overall business acumen.

Hanso Amore 06-16-2012 01:30 PM

JR is only a Hallf of Famer because he has a disease, not because he is the voice of Wrestling to an entire generation of fans.

Right Ruien? FUcking Mutie.

Logan 06-16-2012 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfpack423 (Post 3894207)
Raven crucifying Sandman should be at top of most lists. That was just terrible to do. I don't blame Angle for leaving after that atrocity.

Eh. If you're going to include that, you might as well include the watered down undertaker version of that where he did that to Austin and i think one other on that Tx symbol of his during the ministry days.

Triple Naitch 06-16-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by XCaliber (Post 3894157)
The Katie Vick thing with Triple H/Kane was a bit much.

It wasn't real.



That Jerry Lawler anal bleeding thing. Not cool, man.

Logan 06-16-2012 01:34 PM

Thought THIS was going too far at the time

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VoodooPimp 06-16-2012 01:37 PM

Cole using Lawler's mothers recent passing as a taunt was pretty messed up.

Logan 06-16-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3894244)
It wasn't real.



That Jerry Lawler anal bleeding thing. Not cool, man.

Real or not, both of those "crossed the line" when they happened,. though i wasnt NEARLY as offended with the bleeding one as the vick thing. More specifically, the only real issue i had with the vick thing was the taped necrophile segment...

Gertner 06-16-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Joesgonnakillyou (Post 3894191)
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Not cool

Spics don't go to heaven.

Logan 06-16-2012 01:42 PM

Another one I thought of was the entire JJ/Chyna angle, where I thought that was a particularly uncool way of the E appearing to hint at how the company feels towards female wrestlers.

Yes, I know that there're other examples of that out there, but that sticks out.

Next Big Thing 06-16-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by addy2hotty (Post 3894199)
Personally, I think the funeral is one of the funniest things they've ever done in the time I've watched wrestling.

Bossman was gold through all of this.

I agree. Bossman hitting on Show's mom through the PA was hilarious.

Nicky Fives 06-16-2012 01:47 PM

People really need to get the sand out of their vaginas...... IT IS A SHOW!!!! Vince has known JR for over 20 years and they are probably quite close..... how are you to know that it wasn't JR's idea? JR makes fun of his looks all the time.....I don;t think any moment went too far, as wrestling "isn't real".....

St. Jimmy 06-16-2012 01:48 PM

Ric Flair Heart Attack, nWo Horseman Promo, Terri Runnels Miscarriage angle, Drunk Road Warrior Hawk, Eddie vs Rey: Dominic Feud, Lita's Pregnancy, VINCE vs. GOD, Kurt Angle: Rapist

St. Jimmy 06-16-2012 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 3894257)
People really need to get the sand out of their vaginas...... IT IS A SHOW!!!! Vince has known JR for over 20 years and they are probably quite close..... how are you to know that it wasn't JR's idea? JR makes fun of his looks all the time.....I don;t think any moment went too far, as wrestling "isn't real".....

I'm going to make a show where I show 9/11 victims being sodomized. This is fine because IT'S JUST A SHOW.

Triple Naitch 06-16-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by St. Jimmy (Post 3894261)
Ric Flair Heart Attack, nWo Horseman Promo, Terri Runnels Miscarriage angle, Drunk Road Warrior Hawk, Eddie vs Rey: Dominic Feud, Lita's Pregnancy, VINCE vs. GOD, Kurt Angle: Rapist

God no-showing that tag team match with HBK was pretty hilarious, tbh.

Heyman 06-16-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Autobahn (Post 3894127)
Seeing Vince's disgusting impersonation of JR got me thinking of other instances where storylines went just that bit too far and were just poor taste.

This storyline sticks out to me. Anybody have any others?
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The Bossman/Big Show storyline was one of the funniest things in WWE history.

Are you some kind of gay faggot?

FourFifty 06-16-2012 02:57 PM

Drunk Hawk, Cole getting raped, the dude from wrestlecrap not selling me the Katie Vick outfit.

Shisen Kopf 06-16-2012 03:00 PM

There is no such thing as too far in pro rasslin

ClockShot 06-16-2012 03:21 PM

Raven putting Sandman on the cross was a little too extreme.

No pun intended.

Fox 06-16-2012 03:30 PM

Randy Orton telling Mysterio he was going to send him to hell to be with Eddie Guerrero only a few months removed from Eddie's death. Tactless way to get heat.

Macho Man beating up his girlfriends backstage and then having them still come to the ring with him with black eyes and shit. Again, an extremely cheap way to get heat.

The entire "Oklahoma" angle in WCW in 2000. Served no purpose and was just ridiculous. The only good thing that came from it was the Oklahoma character wrestling Vampiro and doing commentary at the same time.

I felt like Triple H's comments toward Booker T before their match at WrestleMania XIX ("People like you don't get to be people like me") were a bit over the top - especially since Booker got no redemption and lost at Mania. "You're black and you have a criminal history and people like you can't beat people like me." And then Triple H basically proved it.

Savio 06-16-2012 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 3894245)
Thought THIS was going too far at the time

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and really Paws? how are you going to get a paw stuck in your teeth.

The Hassan Terrorist angle was a bit to far.

Emperor Smeat 06-16-2012 04:03 PM

A bunch of things New Jack was involved such as trying to kill Vic Grimes or over doing a beatdown which lead to the Mass Transit incident or stabbing another wrestler to the point of cops getting called.

Hardcore Holly legit beating the crap out of a few guys either during Tough Enough or during a match over petty reasons.

Was Animal falling off the titan tron before or after Owen's tragic death since that could be another if it occurred after?

DAMN iNATOR 06-16-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 3894354)
and really Paws? how are you going to get a paw stuck in your teeth.

The Hassan Terrorist angle was a bit to far.

Do tell how you figure that, Einstein. The angle was shot 3 days in advance of airing, and they did everything they could to inform and warn viewers that in light of 7/7/2005 some of the show involving a segment with Hassan might not be suitable for them. It's peoples' own fault if they saw that, knew they'd be offended by it and continued to watch and not turn off the tv or flip to another channel, not WWE's.

But, circumstances being what they were, led to a massive outcry, especially from the large Muslim communities in SE Michigan (Dearborn especially) about the character being 'stereotyped' as a terrorist or whatever and basically used that along with 7/7/05 and the airing of the segment to force UPN or CW or whoever it was at the time to pull him from tv and subsequently out of the company. He never got a fair shake, and it's a damn shame because if he were still around today he'd probably have at least 1 world title if not more. He certainly was worthy of it, in my view.

Anybody Thrilla 06-16-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple Naitch (Post 3894265)
God no-showing that tag team match with HBK was pretty hilarious, tbh.

I was there live, and I assure you, it was not hilarious.


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