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VSG 06-21-2012 08:59 PM

The Ascension.. has risen!
 
It started with an interview with Ricardo Rodriguez on FCW in August, 2011:

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WWE decides The Ascension does not need Ricardo and a cheesy promo aires on FCW in September, 2011:

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Members: Conor O'Brian, Kenneth Cameron, Orlando "Epico" Colon and Raquel Diaz

A match (only one that I know of) happens in October:

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Fantastic look, and reminded me a lot of The Brood. Of course then Epico was brought up to the main brands to team up with Primo and Raquel Diaz stopped appearing with Conor O'Brian and Kenneth Cameron. These two wrestled as a tag team:

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A couple of matches happened and no one gave a damn. Until...

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Intro promo (5 min in) + match from this week's NXT. A squash match with clear intention to push them- hard.

I personally can't wait for them to develop enough to be promoted to Raw. A very edgy gimmick in the land of PG but, more importantly, the only tag team apart from the Prime Time Players to have actual personality. Triple H did say he wanted a better tag team division and this is on the right path. Thoughts?

What Would Kevin Do? 06-21-2012 09:35 PM

The fact that NXT/FCW is up makes me very, very happy.

VSG 06-21-2012 10:01 PM

You are welcome. There is an Indian site that uploads every single episode of US wrestling (WWE, TNA, ROH, FCW) and that is my source. Hopefully it will last..

Dukelorange 06-21-2012 11:19 PM

They look like a good tag team... they have a good look great gimmick, but a weird finisher...

Rollermacka 06-22-2012 01:41 AM

I like the fact that its a tag team not just two established singles wrestlers. They aren't calling them "evil" so it could work in the PG Era.

Tom Guycott 06-22-2012 02:26 AM

Has potiential- has that kind of flavor to fill the Undertaker void without being too forced (see Kevin Thorn). I agree with Duke that the Downcast* is kind of wonky, only in that it depends entirely on how well the guy taking it sells it from both parts... especially the jawbreaker. It's not as sloppy as PTP's haphazard doomsday device, but both teams have time to work on that.

I'm kinda geeked to see that they're following through with Braylon Mercy. That gimmick has the potiential to go places much like "the original" could have, and be akin to something cerebral and great; like Raven.




*A plus in it's favor, however is that it IS a named finisher, and JR immediately put that over. Not just a "oh, what was that?" and refering to it as "that move!" for weeks on end. How are Ross and Regal not on Raw or Smackdown?

Heisenberg 06-22-2012 04:19 AM

Not too bad at all, thanks for posting this.

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-22-2012 07:59 AM

Don't think Brayy Wyatt lasts too long in a PG WWE. Have a feeling somebody is gonna cry or bitch or moan and he'll be Husky Harris again.

Mr. Nerfect 06-22-2012 08:12 AM

The gimmick may be dropped quickly, but Windham Rotunda will remain Bray Wyatt and be a major player on RAW or SmackDown! before too long.

I really enjoyed The Ascension on NXT this week. I loved the style they presented them in, and they are a team with personality. I like that they are actually a team that has a common theme, similar aesthetics and a tag team finisher, but still have their different vibes. To compare these guys to The Brood is not unfair at this point. I hope that we get to see them develop into prominent tag team players.

Also, Jim Ross and William Regal were fucking amazing as a commentary duo.

Skippord 06-22-2012 09:14 AM

They kind of seem like they should be fighting Spiderman.

Mr. Nerfect 06-22-2012 09:15 AM

I kind of want to see Ascension on the main roster already.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-22-2012 09:23 AM

I like their music. They look better without the ugly bird with them as well.

VSG 06-22-2012 09:50 AM

That "ugly bird" is Eddie and Vickie Guerrero's daughter.

Hanso Amore 06-22-2012 09:57 AM

They will never amount to anything in the WWE.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-22-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3901594)
That "ugly bird" is Eddie and Vickie Guerrero's daughter.

Oh, I thought I'd seen pictures of her in the past where was pretty good looking. It might've just been the daft faces she was pulling in those clips while she was trying to look all gothic and stuff.

Hanso Amore 06-22-2012 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3901594)
That "ugly bird" is Eddie and Vickie Guerrero's daughter.

So what, that makes her not ugly?

VSG 06-22-2012 10:04 AM

She is not ugly irl and that post of mine helped Iggy remember who she was. You done?

Dukelorange 06-22-2012 11:21 AM

Change the finisher... Leave the intro, I love the city scape... The intro video was movie promo quality they should keep that. You can sell tees that have black light effects so the crowd can feel like part of the effect when they arrive in the WWE...

Damn 06-22-2012 11:29 AM

This reminds me that I miss Eric Esssssscobar!

loopydate 06-22-2012 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 3901575)
They kind of seem like they should be fighting Spiderman.

I was thinking Batman, but yeah, same thought. During the zoom-over-the-city opening part, I was expecting inspirational words from Michael Caine.

Ultra Mantis 06-22-2012 12:03 PM

I could easily become a mark for Kenneth Cameron's magic glowing hand. Love the extremely quick tags too.

Of course all of that is irrelevant when your segment is followed by Johnny Curtis.

Rollermacka 06-22-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 3901139)
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Is it just me or has the WWE made Seth Rollins (Tyler Black) into a CM Punk knock off?

James Steele 06-22-2012 12:24 PM

I love the idea behind Husky's new character. Hope it sticks.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-22-2012 01:09 PM

I've already spooged over the Ascension in the NXT thread, but I really really hope that Ricardo gets a bigger speaking role and less comedy in the future. He sells that shit and with a decent explanation as to why he's there when he's Alberto's ring announcer.

Watching the FCW Ascension promo though, it is a real shame that Epico isn't part of the group. It would have been a little re-hash of Edge & Christian by the Ascension coming on Smackdown and Primo trying to save Epico from staying there as one. While I loved the Brood when they were united as Gangrel with both E&C, the Edge and Christian relationship wasn't really done very well before Edge joined. Probably to do with neither man getting speaking time and Gangrel being god-awful on the mic, but they could have done it even better.

Tom Guycott 06-22-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 3901715)
Is it just me or has the WWE made Seth Rollins (Tyler Black) into a CM Punk knock off?

I noticed that too. The whole "I'm my own man" thing made me chuckle incessantly. Waiting for punk to walk in on one of his promos and say "... you're a poser!" & slap him like he did with "Prince of Punk" Shannon Moore.

#BROKEN Hasney 06-22-2012 01:16 PM

Kind of enjoyed Raquel being miced up during the match as well.

Volare 06-22-2012 01:17 PM

Not saying it's ripping off, but the reason why Ascension as attracted me is becuase I used to like watching vids of The Black Family from AAA.

If they put a hot girl with them again, too bad they couldn't use their song.

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Rollermacka 06-22-2012 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 3901726)
I love the idea behind Husky's new character. Hope it sticks.

Yea, I like the gimmick... but I don't know if Husky is the right guy for it. Personally, I thought he was at his best when he teames with his brother. It would be great to add the Rotundo brothers to the tag team roster too.

CSL 06-22-2012 01:44 PM

shows what the WWE machine can do for a guy, Kenneth Cameron was a bland indy claps babyface with shit hair named Brandon T a year or two ago. Fair play to him

VSG 06-22-2012 02:11 PM

Don't forget the Rat Man Conor O'Brian

Volare 06-22-2012 02:17 PM

Oh god, I could see him coming out and beating the shit out of Alberto bringing that back as a storyline.

drmayberry7 06-22-2012 03:47 PM

It's not just you
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 3901715)
Is it just me or has the WWE made Seth Rollins (Tyler Black) into a CM Punk knock off?

I noticed that too

Tazz Dan 06-22-2012 07:15 PM

Haven't people been making that comparison for a while now?

CSL 06-22-2012 07:26 PM

pretty dumb comparison, "alt guy who has something resembling a vocabulary, must be Punk"

SlickyTrickyDamon 06-22-2012 07:30 PM

He also looks like him at least when Punk started.

CSL 06-22-2012 07:31 PM

don't see that either, Punk used to dye (all of) his hair blonde and had a bit of facial hair, other than that they look nothing alike

Juan 06-22-2012 07:44 PM

Yeah I don't really see it either

Mr. Nerfect 06-22-2012 09:00 PM

He has got a similar style to CM Punk, in that he's got that indy alternative guy look -- but he actually reminded me more of Jeff Hardy in his promo.

CSL 06-22-2012 11:21 PM

his similarity to Jeff is basically my entire reasoning for claiming for god knows how long that he'll get over big time once he gets on TV properly (good looking alt guy that birds will cream over but blokes will also find "cool", weak promos but "unique"/a bit out there, good in the ring etc)

Tazz Dan 06-22-2012 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3902179)
pretty dumb comparison, "alt guy who has something resembling a vocabulary, must be Punk"

Yeah I wasn't agreeing with it, but obviously some people find the smallest things to make the biggest similarities.


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