Guys, I might just be a simple retired poster/ghost/moderator/muck cleaner upper, BUT
 

I think I like TNA more than WWE now.

TNA is by no means perfect, but I love the energy they put into their shows. Impact is actually fun to watch. Also Austin Aries might be the "BEST IN THE WORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRLD" right now.

WWE on the other hand has been fucking terrible lately. Some stuff is alright, but the rest of it feels like they put no effort into it. I hate their fucking skits that they have to put on every Raw now. It reminds me of kids at summer camp putting on skits. They're not funny and they're really forced and awkward. If your talent can't act, then don't put them in segments where they have to act.

But that's just my thoughts on the matter. I would love to hear yours!

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I still like WWE more, probably just by habit, and because I don't get Spike TV where I am.

However, I do appreciate TNA's product when I catch clips of it on YouTube. The only thing I have been pointed to that annoys me is Robbie E, but Austin Aries is pretty good, and I like Samoa Joe's style. I also like Bully Ray. It's pretty good how he reinvented himself.

I would definitely say I watch WWE out of habit and not because it's compelling television. Because it's not.

I keep meaning to give Impact another try but i seem to catch the abortion episodes between the good ones and stop watching.

Tried watching Impact the other week. Started with Hogan doing a promo. Got bored and didn't continue to the next segment. The time before that I tried watching it opened with Sting in the title match and I turned it off three minutes into the match.

I actually have no doubt the rest of the show is good, I just can't stand watching Sting, Hogan, etc being in such prominent positions and it turns me off from the rest of the show.

Like others, WWE is out of habit than anything else. Honestly, the ONLY thing worth a fuck in WWE right now is the Punk/Bryan/Kane/AJ saga.

To me it's been this way the last few years. Around the spring or summer TNA gets better for a while and WWE kind of dips off, then around fall they both start to suck, and then around Novermber WWE picks up and the cycle continues.

Both are shit, OCW is the best fed out there right now

I always change the channel when brodus clay comes on.

I guess an alternative way to put this is "Guys, have you watched WWE tv lately? It fucking sucks!"

Except Ryback of course.http://tpww.net/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

Ryback is the great thing in the history of ever.

Not one but two jobbers. Damn that's awesome.

Bushwhacker Luke, woooooooo! Is better though.

DON'T TALK AGAINST BRODUS CLAY. HE'S AWESOME.

I agree.

Slater and Ryback are the only WWE I can be arsed to watch.

Still don't like Bobby Rooooooooo as champ tho.

Ryback is great. That's for sure.

Santino and Teddy Long at a barbeque? Not as great.

I hated the stupid spot with kane lighting the grill. When is the next time we are going to hear him say "I became human again"

Another thing instead of having Lord "Albert" Tensai job out to Tyson Kidd they should have used him to put Ziggler over. He is a big guy and beat The Rock and Stone Cold on the same night to become the undisputed champion.

Ziggler could have used that rub to get one step closer to the Main-event scene.

I think TNA has been fantastic the past while. Yes you still have the Hogan promos but there are too many good things about it. This Open Fight Night has the poteintal to be brilliant (if used right). Bully Ray is fast becoming my fav heel to watch and Austin Aries could easily become the face of the company. But they need to take a few risks - gettin out of the Impact Zone would be the first.

I watch TNA in passing, but I just don't care as much about most of their wrestlers. TNA has been good lately, but WWE has been great for awhile now.

what?

Dunno about that mang. The Punk/Bryan feud has been great and whenever Triple H shows up it's been great, but the rest of it has been awful with the occasional entertainment.

Couldn't agree more. TNA has been really delivering as of late while WWE just seems to be going through the motions and all their backstage promos just seem really clumsy and forced. TNA brings so much more intensity into their shows and of course Austin Aries has the Scott Roberts seal of approval.

Superstars is still a pretty awesome show, as was NXT, haven't seen enough of the new NXT to make an opinion yet.

I still watch Raw and Smackdown every week, but to be honest I pretty much skip most of it. It is really "programmed" in at the moment. Besides the WWE title angle and Tyson Kidd, I find it really hard to get into.

Which is a shame, I've said this many times on here now, but 2011 was a FANTASTIC year. Seriously, the entire 12 months was compelling, entertaining, and exciting. The angles were all hot, the PPV's were all incredible, hell, even Mark Henry was delivering. 2011 was really the start of something special for WWE.

And then came 2012, and instead of further pushing all these fresh faces in the main event, WWE pretty much ditched them all in favour of guys like The Rock, Triple H, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar, John Cena, and now Big Show's 87th "I'm a pissed off giant" heel turn. It was nice for a pop now and then, but right now the product has suffered terribly because of it.

TNA, meh, I guess they do try. I watch all their PPV's and will watch Impact now and then, but to be honest, I just always go into every TNA show thinking they have the potential, but it never lives up to it. Pretty much every TNA PPV looks great, on paper, but I can't remember the last time I watched a TNA pay-per-view and legitimately thought "holy shit that show was good".

Kinda...

Lockdown 2011 was pretty good. :y:

Big Vic comes from an alternate universe where Chris Jericho was born in Albert's body.

TNA has a better show, wrestling wise for sure. Everyone seems to come out and leave it al in the ring every single night! The whole AJ/Dixie thing is pretty wank, and reminds me of a stupid WWE "storyline". Their promos (see AA - GMTEL) are on fucking point week after week. Open fight night makes things more "interesting" regardless of how much of a work it really is, just seems to spur matchups never seen before, or rarely seen.

WWE and their "entertainment" has been complete shit as of late, especially the whole 4th of July "skits". I DVR'd Smackdown and watched less than 30 mins of it without fast forwarding it. Oh yea, and John Cena in MITB..... really?! I could see a swerve there, but something tells me he is due for another Superman run after his recent streaks of losses.

Best thing in WWE right now is by far Daniels / Punk, but the AJ storyline is wank. Ziggler is where it needs to go, he needs to win MITB and fucking be on top.

I'm not sure whether or not I prefer TNA or the WWE, but when I watch TNA there is certainly some energy in the presentation of that product. I really enjoyed watching it last week, and I've made it a point to watch it again this week. That's more than I can say for the WWE -- since I've missed RAW and SmackDown this week (I will, however, continue to give NXT opportunities to win me over).

That being said, I have a feeling that the WWE is really going to pick up for SummerSlam. I think the two major storylines heading into the PPV will be Triple H and Brock Lesnar battling -- perhaps with the stipulation being that if Brock wins, Triple H will relinquish COO status to Paul Heyman. I also feel that John Cena will win Money in the Bank and cash in on CM Punk like everyone before him -- taking advantage of Punk when he is down -- despite promising to announce his title shot ahead of time. I think that Cena/Punk will have an epic rivalry that will get people talking. I also feel in my gut that SummerSlam will also feature Sheamus defending the World Title against Randy Orton, Alberto Del Rio facing a returning Rey Mysterio and Kane standing up for a babyface AJ (although not officially becoming her boyfriend or anything) to teach Daniel Bryan some respect. I also really, really, really want the WWE to do Christian vs. Chris Jericho for the Intercontinental Title too. But come on -- that PPV would be awesome. Perhaps throw in a TLC Match pitting Kofi Kingston & R-Truth against The Prime Time Players, Epico & Primo and maybe the thrown together babyface team of Tyson Kidd & Zack Ryder and you have a pretty tremendous PPV on paper.

One thing that really confuses me about the current WWE product is that there are two World Championships when the rosters are essentially unified. It makes no sense! I think the WWE has to either separate the brands more definitively or start acknowledging the redundancy of having two World Champions.

Also, I still think that the first WrestleMania story put forward should be Dolph Ziggler winning the World Heavyweight Championship Money in the Bank Ladder Match and announcing that he plans to cash in at WrestleMania. Not honourably either. Have him announce that he's going to pick off the winner. It'd be entirely in-line with his heel spotlight-stealing persona. If you then draw the brand lines up more solidly, then whoever is the World Heavyweight Champion and Ziggler could also be kept separate until WrestleMania.

Majority of the time I end up missing TNA but on the occassions I watch it, end up enjoying the mid and lower card stuff a lot more than the main event stuff similar to the WWE most of the time.

TNA still has a really bad problem with consistency and booking.

Like the time they held a league leading up to a Bound for Glory ppv which was going along well and then typical of TNA, they decided at the last moment to trash weeks and months worth of development while having the big payoff of Roode winning the title occur on tv which made the big interest in the pvv become meaningless.

Austin Aries should win the World Heavyweight Title at Destination X, in my opinion. He is so fucking good. James Storm can often be great -- both in the ring and when it comes to promos -- but I just don't feel the need for him to be champion like I feel for Aries. Roode was always more consistent in the build-up to the Lockdown match with Storm whereas Aries has actually been performing slightly better than Roode, in my opinion. Aries should go over to make this new Destination X concept worth something.

Kenny King for new X-Division Champion and a feud with Doug Williams as well.

Imagine how hot the place would be if Aries made Roode submit at Destination X. It would be fucking molten.

The next Open Fight Night, Roode comes out and calls out Hulk Hogan to a fight. Roode references Hogan trying to sabotage him and saying that he's "not the guy." Well Roode is "the guy" calling your old orange ass, Hogan, and he will be "the guy" kicking it. Everyone backstage gets up in arms about Roode calling out Hogan, and a bunch of faces are like "Don't do it, Hulkster" and Hogan's just all "*sigh* You know what? I'm going. This is my concept, and I'm going to live up to it."

An old, broken Hogan heads to the ring as Roode is standing there like a hungry hyena. Hogan is talking down the ramp like "You really want this? Really? You want to settle business like this?" Hogan wipes his face a bit to sort of imply "What the fuck am I doing out here?" and he gets in the ring with Roode, who goes right on the attack on Hogan, pummelling him in the corner. The ref gets Roode out and then Roode tries another shot on Hogan, but Hulk blocks it and nails Roode once, twice, but goes to whip him and Roode kicks the knee of Hogan. Roode then starts beating the living crap out of Hogan some more, and Hogan does a blade-job to sell it. The referee stops the match and awards it to Roode, who continues the bloody beatdown of the icon.

James Storm then hits the ring and saves Hogan from Roode, as medics come out to check on Hulk, who needs a little help getting to the back, but refuses a stretcher. Thus begins the build to Roode vs. Storm -- Texas Deathmatch at Bound For Glory -- Hogan puts his status as Impact Wrestling's GM on the line. If Roode wins, then he takes over and vows to fire Hulk Hogan, Brooke Hogan and James Storm. "But don't worry, Hulk. I'll personally induct you into TNA's Hall of Fame, where I'll get to give you an honest induction speech -- about how you are jealous of me and the rightful champion that I am."

At Bound For Glory, Aries defends the World Title against Kurt Angle -- Greatest Man in the World vs. Greatest Wrestler in the World. Angle cuts promos heading into the event about how he walked out of last year's BFG the champion, and Aries says that he's far more of a man than Bobby Roode is, and perhaps shoots on how someone needs to beat Angle so that he can stop being a crazy before he hurts himself.

Also at BFG, have Daniels vs. Styles vs. Joe, just as a "because we fucking can" match.

The only reason I don't watch TNA more frequently is because I just quite simply forget it's on.

Ever since Smackdown moved to Fridays, I don't associate Thursdays with wrestling.

So yeah, I'm really excited about the potential both companies have over the coming months.

Supreme, is this true? Are you being a negative nelly?

I should really give TNA a try again. I've been bored by what I've caught of Raw and Smackdown of late. I'm only enjoying PIPE BOMBS, because not acting=charisma.

Supreme only comes in here to bitch :shifty:

Could Austin Aries fit into the WWE main event scene with a Jericho, Cena, Big Show, Kane, etc?

Not knocking him or anyone else, but do you get where I'm coming from?

For the record I do not watch TNA

Yup. All 200 people would be going nuts.

Yes. He's that fucking good. People might not buy him against a Kane or Big Show right away, but put him in there with your Chris Jericho's and your Daniel Bryan's first.

CM Punk is probably the best actor in the entire WWE...

Your hatred for him is seriously as irrational as #1-wwf-fan's for Alex Riley.

Kenny King is fucking goodness. I saw him on ROH TV a while back and he impressed me, but ROH did not keep me hooked. In TNA, he made me a fan all over again. He's got all the tools. TNA are fools if they don't make him the new X-Division Champion.