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itsmeJD 07-08-2012 04:21 PM

Gertner's about to blow....
 
Partial Source: The Wrestling Observer Newsletter

ROH canceling the 7/27 event in Winston-Salem, North Carolina and the 7/28 event in Spartanburg, South Carolina due to poor advances led to talk among many circles regarding the state of the company.

Add in the fact that the company only has six events total for the rest of 2012 helps add to frustration with talent on the roster. Sinclair Broadcasting is also attempting to keep costs very low.



Could this be the beginning of the end of ROH? Will Gertner's head explode? Discuss.

whiteyford 07-08-2012 04:52 PM

Hope not, don't watch them but any place guys guys can work and get experience on tv is a good thing. If they are in trouble I hope they can establish a working arrangement with the big two, ala ECW, to help out and maybe give guys a way to get noticed, not sure how viable that is with TNA now, with the Kenny king issues and cornette though. At least their video library will be worth something I guess.

MoFo 07-08-2012 04:55 PM

WWE should buy them out to give Ryback a stream of vanilla midgets to squash.

itsmeJD 07-08-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3915375)
WWE should buy them out to give Ryback a stream of vanilla midgets to squash.

Ryback vs. ROH, next week, on Smackdown LIVE!!

Saving Grace 07-08-2012 05:10 PM

is it suprising considering they are owned and operated by a regional broadcasting company who is known for cost cutting and baseline budget costs for programming. If they only have 6 events planned through the remainder of 2012 it shows in that right there what Sinclair Broadcasting feels about the product or what kind of value they place on it.

itsmeJD 07-08-2012 05:11 PM

I also recall ROH being so fucking happy they were being bought by Sinclair. Be careful what you wish for.....

CSL 07-08-2012 05:15 PM

maybe Mark Madden was right

Rammsteinmad 07-08-2012 05:16 PM

I don't follow it enough to really care, but it would be a shame if they went bust. They've put on some great shows in the past and have produced some of the finest in-ring workers in the world.

itsmeJD 07-08-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 3915388)
maybe Mark Madden was right

Please don't let his fat ass Baraka mouth know that.

itsmeJD 07-08-2012 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 3915389)
I don't follow it enough to really care, but it would be a shame if they went bust. They've put on some great shows in the past and have produced some of the finest in-ring workers in the world.

I don't follow it either, because I don't pick up Sinclair broadcasting, but know they do have a pretty significant history since being created by that child molester from RF Video. I would say it sucks to see people lose their jobs, but 6 events left in the year...didn't sound like they were working much anyway.

DLVH84 07-08-2012 05:31 PM

It's almost like when ECW got on TNN in a way. A pretty bad deal.

itsmeJD 07-08-2012 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3915401)
It's almost like when ECW got on TNN in a way. A pretty bad deal.

Yeah ECW got fucked up the ass Sandusky style on that deal.

Droford 07-08-2012 05:59 PM

they should have kept the deal with hdnet..probably just as many people get hdnet and it was a better timeslot 8pm mondays

Razzamajazz 07-08-2012 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsmeJD (Post 3915406)
Yeah ECW got fucked up the ass Sandusky style on that deal.

rythmic slapping

itsmeJD 07-08-2012 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3915417)
they should have kept the deal with hdnet..probably just as many people get hdnet and it was a better timeslot 8pm mondays

I agree, plus I got HD Net which means I might have watched it had I remembered. Impact gets that treatment often and I only catch the last 3-4 minutes.

itsmeJD 07-08-2012 07:00 PM

Where the fuck is Gertner...I want his commentary damn it

CSL 07-08-2012 07:10 PM

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MgDU-Sb2i7k" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

2:20 onwards

Emperor Smeat 07-08-2012 08:07 PM

Haven't they been struggling talent wise the last few years once both TNA and WWE started to really raid their roster.

Before I think TNA and ROH had more of a gentleman's agreement on sharing wrestlers but that broke up a while ago and probably got worse once TNA took over OVW for their feeder system.

erickman 07-08-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droford (Post 3915417)
they should have kept the deal with hdnet..probably just as many people get hdnet and it was a better timeslot 8pm mondays

yeah now that i get hd net and that dish is playing it for more viewers, i could have watched it.

Scott Roberts 07-08-2012 10:28 PM

I knew this would happen the second I put them in the "Scott Roberts Wall of Shame"

owenbrown 07-08-2012 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsmeJD (Post 3915442)
Where the fuck is Gertner...I want his commentary damn it

he's probably getting ready to spam the forum James Steele style

Shisen Kopf 07-08-2012 11:23 PM

I sometimes watched it when it was on hdnet. But after that I never knew what channel it was on. Then when I found out what station it was on it was at 11pm on Saturday nights and I'm not gonna waste my precious videotapes on that. You know how hard it is to find blank VHS tapes these days?

Saving Grace 07-08-2012 11:47 PM

i watch replays of it on the net when i can, i watch it mostly to catch shelton benjamin and charlies haas. RoH has a great tag team division, the kind i wish tna and wwe had. Sucks that the All Night Express just won the titles and Kenny King bails and jumps ship to TNA guess the bullshit walked and the money talked.

Tom Guycott 07-09-2012 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsmeJD (Post 3915379)
I also recall ROH being so fucking happy they were being bought by Sinclair. Be careful what you wish for.....

ECW + The Nashville Network



addendum:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLVH84 (Post 3915401)
It's almost like when ECW got on TNN in a way. A pretty bad deal.

I posted before I got that far. Didn't mean to step on your toes.

Tom Guycott 07-09-2012 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 3915375)
WWE should buy them out to give Ryback a stream of vanilla midgets to squash.

That's actually not a bad idea. Having more than just NXT (now) would be a boon to the business as a whole and add more depth to the "farm system" idea WWE has been flirting with since ECW.

It would be cool if they took a promotion like ROH and/or a couple of other indy feds and, at the very least, compensated them for "raided" talent. Also, and this is a big one, SEND THEM SOME TALENT BACK TO HELP THAT FED PUT ASSES IN SEATS!

It may sound like bad business in the short end, but long run, it would help everyone.

Example: last year when Punk exploded and "quit with the title", he had made the threat that he might take it to Ring of Honor. What if he did? Didn't even have to do much: just appear and cut a promo. That would create all sorts of fucking buzz, get more people to pay attention to ROH, and in return, open up an avenue for some decent potentially decent talent to "jump ship". Again, the important part is to give them something for that talent... perhaps either directly financially, or some "vets" that creative currently doesn't have anything for. Somebody like, I dunno, JTG heads to ROH. Or the oft suspended Rey Rey, or even (given the state of speculation about him) Orton... to kind of bust his stones a bit, I guess.


I know that's all wishful thinking, but it would be cool if they could form a WORKING relationship (completely loaded statement) that doesn't end up how Cornette described his experience in OVW.

Gertner 07-09-2012 09:02 AM

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Shocking, since the vanilla midgets that get called up to the WWE don't draw either.

Fat virgins apparently aren't getting an advance on their allowances from their mom. That explains the poor sales.

Rammsteinmad 07-09-2012 09:13 AM

After the hype, that was a rather bland post by Gertner. :(

Gertner 07-09-2012 11:01 AM

Gertner is at work right now and can't be seen on here

St. Jimmy 07-09-2012 11:40 AM

They pulled the shows because of talent schedules, even Dave said that.

Gertner 07-09-2012 11:46 AM

the talent didn't get pulled. They didn't want to show their faces out of embarassment.

Shisen Kopf 07-09-2012 11:59 AM

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/...p/Picture2.png

This guy woulda been 26 time world champ in ROH with his work rate.

Big Vic 07-09-2012 12:06 PM

That's a lot of times to lose a title.

Volare 07-09-2012 12:30 PM

Yeah, I don't think Flair would've allowed it. Probably would've hired a sniper or someone else to take him out.

Kane Knight 07-09-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsmeJD (Post 3915379)
I also recall ROH being so fucking happy they were being bought by Sinclair. Be careful what you wish for.....

Weren't the fans all up on how this was a great move?

itsmeJD 07-09-2012 02:18 PM

Yes they were. I never understood it because I didn't feel Sinclair had a big enough scope. The show on HDNET I felt fit better with their lineup, and honestly was about the best they were going to get.

Curtis Anderson 07-09-2012 02:57 PM

I think that RoH could get out of the hole they dug for themselves if they could snap up another high-profile WWE release to get mainstream fans excited. Haas and Benjamin, or even Maria, were a good start. They should aim for someone like Morrison, Chris Masters or Evan Bourne (The former Matt Sidal).

Kapoutman 07-09-2012 03:30 PM

I could really see Ring of Honor hiring a real talent like Rosey or Rodney Mack.

CSL 07-09-2012 03:48 PM

yesss, bring back The 5-Minute Whiteboy Challenge for 2012

Kapoutman 07-09-2012 04:02 PM

They would make a million bucks overnight with that. I hope they're reading this.

Mr. Nerfect 07-10-2012 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itsmeJD (Post 3915950)
Yes they were. I never understood it because I didn't feel Sinclair had a big enough scope. The show on HDNET I felt fit better with their lineup, and honestly was about the best they were going to get.

Everyone is the same person to KK.


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