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Supreme Olajuwon 09-13-2012 11:13 AM

Best Wrestler #13: Semi Final #1
 




3 days.




<select><option selected="selected">Best Wrestler Tournament History</option><option>ROUND 1</option><option>#1. Randy Savage vs. Taz (72-4)</option><option>#2. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin (42-42)</option><option>#3. Chris Jericho vs. Jake Roberts (52-15)</option><option>#4. Bret Hart vs. CM Punk (44-24)</option><option>#5. Curt Hennig vs. The Rock (27-31)</option><option>#6. Mick Foley vs. Kurt Angle (18-41)</option><option>#7. Eddie Guerrero vs. Shawn Michaels (13-50)</option><option>#8. Chris Benoit vs. Hulk Hogan (28-36)</option><option>ROUND 2</option><option>#9. Randy Savage vs. Hulk Hogan (41-18)</option><option>#10. The Undertaker vs. Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels (14-22-26)</option><option>#11. Chris Jericho vs. Kurt Angle (30-27)</option><option>#12. Bret Hart vs. The Rock (32-34)</option><option>ROUND 3</option></select>

Shisen Kopf 09-13-2012 11:15 AM

first vote for the macho man...OOOOOOH YEAH!

Kane Knight 09-13-2012 11:16 AM

IF YA SMELLLLLLLLLLLLLLALALALALALALALA

Corporate CockSnogger 09-13-2012 11:17 AM

Went with The Rock because I'm more familiar with him.

Cool King 09-13-2012 11:24 AM

Oh boy, if we thought Bret vs Rock was good, then this should be insane.

Joesgonnakillyou 09-13-2012 11:36 AM

I'm gonna vote for whoever's got the best chance against HBK.

Ah screw it, No one's gonna beat HBK :(

Heisenberg 09-13-2012 11:36 AM

can't lose with this match up

Cool King 09-13-2012 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joesgonnakillyou (Post 3976290)
I'm gonna vote for whoever's got the best chance against HBK.

Ah screw it, No one's gonna beat HBK :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cool King (Post 3961342)
I actually think Savage will win the whole thing.

The final will most likely be Savage vs Michaels.


Shisen Kopf 09-13-2012 11:47 AM

after seeing this compelling footage, I'm not so sure about Savage now.

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Rammsteinmad 09-13-2012 11:49 AM

Loved Savage when I was a kid, but overall I went with the Rock.

Emperor Smeat 09-13-2012 12:12 PM

Really tough choice but went with The Rock.

Looking back, both guys were basically the #2 man of their era with Hogan as the main for the 80s and Austin for the Attitude Era. The Rock did manage to been seen as a legit equal or #1 guy for a lot longer in his era than Savage could in his own era.

Both guys were great with the promos and entertaining with their characters. Savage was better in terms of wrestling skills while the Rock was better in terms of showman skills.

Wishbone 09-13-2012 12:29 PM

Rocky gets my vote here simply because he ate more pie than Macho ever did.

ooTin 09-13-2012 12:49 PM

The Rock makes LEsnar look like Regal in that pic. #JackedAsFuck

Rollermacka 09-13-2012 01:25 PM

Oh man, these two are my deam Wrestlemania match. Even if it was 2000 when Savage left WCW the match would have been beyond amazing. This is a tough one because Rock is one of the main reasons WWE attracted so many fans durring the Monday Night Wars and made wrestling appeal to the average person with his charisma out of the ring. On the other hand though, Savage revolutionized the industry, brought WCW to that next level to compete with the WWE and proved he could get a decient match out of anyone (even Rodman)

loopydate 09-13-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heisenberg (Post 3976291)
can't lose with this match up

Yeah. This is one where I'll be happy with either outcome, because they're both right.

Pintint 09-13-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 3976304)
after seeing this compelling footage, I'm not so sure about Savage now.

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:rofl:

I went with Savage.

whiteyford 09-13-2012 02:13 PM

Savage, genuinely feel he was the better wrestler in every regard.

Anybody Thrilla 09-13-2012 03:26 PM

I went with the person who was bitten by more snakes.

Nicky Fives 09-13-2012 03:29 PM

The battle of the second-fiddles (Savage with Hogan and Rock with Austin)....gotta go Savage, solely because Rock left.....still a little resentful I guess.....

KaosDarksol 09-13-2012 04:25 PM

I voted for the Rock... for the Rock

Pintint 09-13-2012 04:33 PM

Miss Savage...everytime he is mentioned I keep remembering that he passed, but my first thought is always "hope he makes an appearance".
:( suck that he never returned even for one night to the WWE

KyleEmmott 09-13-2012 05:41 PM

OH YEAH

Ultra Mantis 09-13-2012 05:46 PM

Bonesaw McGraw > Some character Rock has played in a blockbuster movie

Ultra Mantis 09-13-2012 05:47 PM

I'd say Boxer Santaros but I'm not sure I would class Southland Tales as a movie.

MoFo 09-13-2012 06:09 PM

gahhhhhhh

Probably The Rock b/c he was the reason I got into wrestling although Savage wears bright shiny colours and him v Jake Snake was awesome.

Mercenary 09-13-2012 06:13 PM

Macho Man had the Oh Yeah dig it catch pharse

Rock had had so many they became a tired promo.

Macho Man was a perfectionist at his job. Making sure his matches went well,

Rock can't even put on the sharpshooter right.

So yeah I went with Macho Man.

XCaliber 09-13-2012 06:42 PM

The Rock proved he could be the face of the company whereas Savage was always 2nd fiddle even when he feuded with Flair so Rocky it is.

Heisenberg 09-13-2012 06:51 PM

Both in their prime was awesome.

Both have left at disappointing times, with Savage going to WCW and Rock going to Hollywood.

Both have used their elbows for finishers.

Good match up

Gertner 09-13-2012 07:29 PM

I'm not gonna look at who's winning. I'm going to vote for The Rock and pretend you all aren't retarded.

Ruien 09-13-2012 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 3976765)
I'm not gonna look at who's winning. I'm going to vote for The Rock and pretend you all aren't retarded.


Rock Bottom 09-13-2012 09:45 PM

Looks like Savage vs. Michaels. Just another example of how popularity and drawing power lose out to the more balanced wrestler who's also really good in the ring. Rock, Hogan and Austin are out, which are 3 of the biggest names and attractions in history.

I'd liked to have seen Kurt Angle in the company of Michaels and Savage. I look forward to Jericho being eliminated because he's not in this league at all. Nothing against Jericho. He's just not as good as the guys that are left.

Kane Knight 09-14-2012 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 3976637)
Bonesaw McGraw > Some character Rock has played in a blockbuster movie

The Tooth Fairy>You.

Kane Knight 09-14-2012 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 3976906)
Looks like Savage vs. Michaels. Just another example of how popularity and drawing power lose out to the more balanced wrestler who's also really good in the ring. Rock, Hogan and Austin are out, which are 3 of the biggest names and attractions in history.

I'd liked to have seen Kurt Angle in the company of Michaels and Savage. I look forward to Jericho being eliminated because he's not in this league at all. Nothing against Jericho. He's just not as good as the guys that are left.

OMG POPULAR PPL GET MORE VOTES IN A POPULARITY CONTEST!!!!!!!!!!

Curd 09-14-2012 03:07 AM

Rock is a far more prolific movie star than Savage was, having cameo'd in Spider-Man and in a few television shows (most memorably for me, doing a voiceover of a wrestling space alien who took on some cartoon monkey on Dexter's Laboratory or some other Cartoon Network show around 1996).

However, Savage participated in a 1993 WWE/F ballads album and released his own cheesy-but-likable album ten years later! Rock has done voiceovers in the various mixes of his theme for WWE albums, but most of that creativity was Jim Johnston. Plus, Savage had a 5-year Slim Jim spokesman contract, although arguably this may be balanced by Rock's movie franchise involvement.

So for me, this leaves their in-ring legacy as the primary difference in overall impact. Savage got over in Florida Championship Wrestling with pretty much the same gimmick as what he brought to the WWE/F. Rock was thrown into WWE/F straight away after football and managed to get over within two years of debuting despite an early feud with the Sultan and being lost in the shuffle most of his time in the Nation of Domination. So points to Savage for finding himself in the original FCW, and roughly the same points to Rock for convincing the McMahon and the writers to let himself be a more organic character on his own.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC, Savage and Rock had 5 World Title reigns each among their WWWE/F and WCW / World Heavyweight reigns. The primary distinction I see between their accomplishments is that Savage has a wider breadth of non-title accomplishments such as wrestling for non-WWE promotions (WCW and TNA) as well as having at least three valets (Elizabeth Huett, Sherrie Martel, and Stephanie Bellars). While I understand that Rock could get his wife on camera if he or she wanted, I believe that Savage really showed talent by involving his valets in feuds over the years without letting himself be over-shadowed.

Plus, Savage's reinvention in 1999 really showed some initiative; it's too bad that his contract ran out before the New Blood angle, but I'm sure Russo would have fouled it up anyway. But besides all that, I liked Savage's sunglasses slightly better than the Rock's -- just my opinion!

#1-norm-fan 09-14-2012 04:21 AM

... That was the greatest analysis of anything ever.

Kane Knight 09-14-2012 11:04 AM

Yes, but he left out one thing:

Who sang better in the shower

Ultra Mantis 09-14-2012 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3977050)
The Tooth Fairy>You.

I'll be sure to remember that when I'm up against The Rock in an online poll

Rock Bottom 09-14-2012 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 3977051)
OMG POPULAR PPL GET MORE VOTES IN A POPULARITY CONTEST!!!!!!!!!!

you're beginning to sound extremely stupid kane knight

and i know you try hard to make it not so, so im just givin you the warning buzzer

#1-norm-fan 09-14-2012 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Bottom (Post 3977620)
you're beginning to sound extremely stupid kane knight

Wh-whaaaaa???

Cool King 09-14-2012 05:45 PM

I've cast my vote.



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