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BizarroKing 11-20-2012 05:40 PM

What if: Cena is legitimately injured now?
 
So let's say John Cena's injury is legit and he's out for a long time, maybe a year (or at least 5-6 months) meaning he'll not only miss Wrestlemania but WWE will be lacking their 'top star' now for quite a while.

If you were Vince McMahon, what would you do?

Jordan 11-20-2012 05:51 PM

Well if he was out I have no doubt he'd still do Wrestlemania. But for the sake of conversation...

I'd have Cena play a character like Austin did when Owen broke his neck... I'd probably make him the GM of Raw or Smackdown!

I'd push Randall Orton as the top babyface, along with Ryback, Sheamus and The Miz as seconds... they would work with Big Show, Ziggler, and CM Punk.

It would be a blessing honestly... But we need Cena at WM let's not kid ourselves.

Corporate CockSnogger 11-20-2012 05:57 PM

I'm pretty sure Vince would just make one quick phone call

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Theo Dious 11-20-2012 06:05 PM

It's not like he's carrying the company right now. He's in a throwaway angle with an evil authority figure and just got done serving as a nutsack appendage in the main event of a Big 4 PPV. Film a few vignettes and have him heal up. The company will go on without him until he's ready to come back.

whiteyford 11-20-2012 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 4036992)
Well if he was out I have no doubt he'd still do Wrestlemania...

But we need Cena at WM let's not kid ourselves.

Really?

Joesgonnakillyou 11-20-2012 06:33 PM

It's a shame, but I think they'd cope.

Orton's still a draw, Ryback's on his way up, HHH could step in and The Rock and Lesnar are waiting in the wings. Add CM Punk to the mix and you've got enough top line talent to see through Wrestlemania season.

James Steele 11-20-2012 06:43 PM

WWE survived (and you could argued thrived) without Stone Cold Steve Austin or Undertaker for a year and it helped cement Rock and Triple H as guys "at that level".

James Steele 11-20-2012 06:47 PM

The Rock was already a huge star, but if Austin hadn't taken that year off I do not know if The Rock would have become utter phenomenon he became with the movies, etc. because Stone Cold was always "the man" and everybody knew it. That time away allowed The Rock to fill that role and become a guy who is now on the Mt. Rushmore of pro wrestling.

Nicky Fives 11-20-2012 08:04 PM

I'd give Austin creative control and a blank cheque.....

Emperor Smeat 11-20-2012 08:13 PM

Really push more of the younger or mid-tier guys to fill in the void and then keep their development/push strong even once Cena is back. Take the ratings and/or buyrate hit for the short term in order to be better prepared for the long term (post-Cena era).

More depth at the main event scene would be nice so that the WWE has more options than always relying on Cena or the only big feud possible being Punk vs Cena (vs Ryback recently). Also gives Cena more chances at rest which will benefit him and the WWE until the next "Cena" is found.

Droford 11-20-2012 08:21 PM

Send in one of his wm clones..his fan base wouldn't notice

Kane Knight 11-20-2012 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4036999)
Really?

The guy they built the entire company around? Yeah, they kind of need him.

XCaliber 11-20-2012 10:21 PM

I'd push Kofi Kingston to the moon if I were him.

Shadrick 11-20-2012 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XCaliber (Post 4037198)
I'd push Kofi Kingston to the moon if I were him.

I WOULD TOO. *CLAPS*

Savio 11-20-2012 11:11 PM

According to some podcast I listened to that it was a work to put him and dolph on an equal level

Vastardikai 11-21-2012 02:36 AM

As opposed to... elevating Dolph to make him a believable threat?

Makes sense.

Droford 11-21-2012 02:51 AM

Dolph will steal aj from him

His shirt says so

moejo 11-21-2012 03:55 AM

Well lets see cm punk loses hid belt to ryback ..then make cm punk Gm..or give john c Gm till..he gets better that shut vicky up ..lol wat do u think

owenbrown 11-21-2012 03:56 AM

:wtf:

whiteyford 11-21-2012 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 4037128)
The guy they built the entire company around? Yeah, they kind of need him.

I don't think him missing a Wrestlemania would be the end of the world though, or him working it if he was legit injured just for the sake of it, not like 'Mania would flop without him.

Dark One 11-21-2012 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moejo (Post 4037410)
Well lets see cm punk loses hid belt to ryback ..then make cm punk Gm..or give john c Gm till..he gets better that shut vicky up ..lol wat do u think

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drave 11-21-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moejo (Post 4037410)
Well lets see cm punk loses hid belt to ryback ..then make cm punk Gm..or give john c Gm till..he gets better that shut vicky up ..lol wat do u think

I think this is what happens when you have a picture of a giraffe stuck in your ass during an earthquake.

Also, Because partridge.gif

Wehttam 11-21-2012 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moejo (Post 4037410)
Well lets see cm punk loses hid belt to ryback ..then make cm punk Gm..or give john c Gm till..he gets better that shut vicky up ..lol wat do u think

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ooTin 11-21-2012 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4037014)
WWE survived (and you could argued thrived) without Stone Cold Steve Austin or Undertaker for a year and it helped cement Rock and Triple H as guys "at that level".

I would not call Chuck and Pulumbo "thriving"

ooTin 11-21-2012 10:22 AM

or Billy and Chuck

ooTin 11-21-2012 10:22 AM

or Rene Dupree and Fifi

ooTin 11-21-2012 10:23 AM

keep it going guys

Volare 11-21-2012 10:36 AM

The Dicks

James Steele 11-21-2012 12:08 PM

Ootin, what the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about in 2000 when Undertaker and Austin both missed WrestleMania and were basically out for a year.

Big Vic 11-21-2012 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vastardikai (Post 4037367)
As opposed to... elevating Dolph to make him a believable threat?

Makes sense.

From a mark stand point you see Cena vs Dolph on paper you know Cena will win. If Cena has a "knee injury" the Mark thinks "Oh my cena could lose".

Dolph getting a pin victory over Cena regardless helps him out a ton. Although if he loses to Cena now it would look pretty bad.

Kane Knight 11-21-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4037586)
From a mark stand point you see Cena vs Dolph on paper you know Cena will win. If Cena has a "knee injury" the Mark thinks "Oh my cena could lose".

Dolph getting a pin victory over Cena regardless helps him out a ton. Although if he loses to Cena now it would look pretty bad.

Which is why elevating him would actually make more sense, since it wouldn't matter if he won or lost.

Sepholio 11-21-2012 12:31 PM

I dunno, don't think it was a work tbh.

Obviously even if Cena is out of the ring for a while, he will still be on TV. Besides, his personality is what sells him, so as long as he is involved somehow, things will be fine as far as WWE is concerned.

This actually gives them a good oppurtunity with Ziggler by having him go over Cena completely clean and without struggling to do so. Sets up a return rematch for himself and Cena, going over clean (cuz face it, alot of times something shady happens in his matches somewhere that helps him) makes it look like he didn't need his full bag of tricks to top Cena in this condition so it doesn't cheapen his win per se, and it doesn't hurt Cena in the slightest.

Basically, play this out like its a legit injury for once and not a work. Even if it is a work, damn it.

Sepholio 11-21-2012 12:38 PM

Another thought I had involved the WWE using this to turn Dolph somewhat face. Have him refuse to fight Cena on the basis that he doesn't want a cheap win. He wants to fight Cena on equal terms to prove he is the better man. Then slowly build into a tweener face/heel, someone who may be a dick and treat others like steaming dook, but who also does what is right for the most part and keeps it fair, never using dirty tactics to win.

It could help to fill the void that Cena would leave in terms of having top faces to actively wrestle.

Volare 11-21-2012 12:57 PM

Watching Ziggler's entrances lately....he needs more pyro.

And keep using that Superkick, that had me marking the fuck out at Survivor Series.

Kane Knight 11-21-2012 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4037601)
Another thought I had involved the WWE using this to turn Dolph somewhat face. Have him refuse to fight Cena on the basis that he doesn't want a cheap win. He wants to fight Cena on equal terms to prove he is the better man. Then slowly build into a tweener face/heel, someone who may be a dick and treat others like steaming dook, but who also does what is right for the most part and keeps it fair, never using dirty tactics to win.

It could help to fill the void that Cena would leave in terms of having top faces to actively wrestle.

:y:

Savio 11-21-2012 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 4037589)
Which is why elevating him would actually make more sense, since it wouldn't matter if he won or lost.

Your arguement is flawed WWE logic doesn't make sense.

Savio 11-21-2012 05:04 PM

That being said I'd like to see Dolph beat Injured knee cena. lose to regular cena then win the rubber match using heel tactics (tights, etc)

BizarroKing 11-21-2012 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooTin (Post 4037539)
I would not call Chuck and Pulumbo "thriving"

So there's a Chuck and a Palumbo now? EGADS MAN! What is this world coming to!?

DAMN iNATOR 11-24-2012 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4037014)
WWE survived (and you could argued thrived) without Stone Cold Steve Austin or Undertaker for a year and it helped cement Rock and Triple H as guys "at that level".

They also went without Shawn Michaels for like 4 years.

owenbrown 11-24-2012 06:24 PM

Super Cena could come to the ring in a full body cast and still no-sell everything and win the WWE Championship


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