UFC Welterweight Title Discussion
 

Here is how I think it should break down..

-GSP vs Hendricks for the title

-Condit rematching Diaz for a contender spot

-Rory fighting Kampman

-Maia is fighting Fitch

-Ellenberger vs Kos

After the winner of GSP/Hendricks faces the winner of Daiz/Condit, you have a wide open field of contenders.. I don't think Rory is ready yet.. Sure he has looked good so far in the UFC but in the UFC 2 of his 5 wins were against 155ers (Penn, Diaz) and other than them, he hasn't beaten any contenders.. He needs a signature win over another contender like a Kampman, Fitch, Maia, etc..

If they do give Diaz the shot at GSP and Rory gets Condit, Hendricks will sit out.. He might could fight the winner of Rory/Condit if time permits..

Thought??

p.s. You also need to throw Matt Browns's name in there as he has won 5 of his last 6..

Maia/Fitch would seem like a borefest but they have looked good recently.

Diaz' camp has said they don't want a Condit rematch from last I read. They just want the big fights ,GSP or Silva(lol).

So Dana has somewhat of a tough choice of giving it to Hendricks or Diaz

They said they want it to be Diaz, but then Hendricks will get fucked.. Diaz should be scared of Condit cause Condit nullified his boxing..

Seems a bit too soon for a possible Condit/GSP rematch (assuming they won), I'd book the Rory Mac/Condit II & GSP/Hendricks.

No idea who would be good for Diaz to fight, Fitch is always highly ranked but tied up, and the Kos fight which was rumoured for him seems terrible to me. Someone like a Diego Sanchez who'll make for a good fight while still losing seems good to set up him vs GSP.

Jake Shields and Hendricks were having a back and forth on Twitter a couple of days ago, doesnt make sense but I wonder if that will get made

Condit's last win over him wasn't that impressive. Dana initially ordered a rematch until Diaz pissed hot and Rogan admitted after watching the fight again that Nick should have won. I don't want to see that match again and it doesn't make sense for that to be a contender's fight since no one would want to see Condit fight GSP so soon if he did win.

I'm pretty sure the UFC will do GSP/Diaz because of all the potential WW matchups, that fight will probably draw the best and have the biggest buyrate. Zuffa probably wouldn't want to risk that being screwed up by Diaz potentially losing a contender's fight.

Hendricks sitting out would be a mistake and it's stupid when fighters do that. Evans ended up waiting almost 2 years, and Hendo pulled out b/c he wasn't 100% and now he may never get a shot. I think Hendricks versus MacDonald would be the most logical #1 Contender's matchup and if they put that on the same card as GSP/Diaz, it would be a sick night of fights. Plus I want to see "Big Rigg" turn off Rory's lights.

Rory calling out Condit is pretty stupid as well. I get wanting to avenge your loss, but if you really want to be a champion, the quickest route would be to fight Hendricks, not the guy who just got dominated by the champ his last title fight.

Jake Shields is too one dimensional and would probably get knocked the fuck out like Fitch so I don't want to see Hendricks/Shields at all.

By the way, I think Rory's turn into White Jon Jones will be complete once he suddenly decides that he would fight teammate/mentor GSP in the same fashion that JBJ changed his stance on fighting Rashad. He will be hated in the U.S. for acting like a jackass against B.J. and hated in Canada for going against GSP. The similarities between Rory Mac and JBJ are astonishing.

During the post fight presser he at first was like "if that's what it takes to get the title" then quickly changed to "I wouldn't fight GSP, we are too good of friends"..

And yes, I would love to see Hendricks K Rory the fuck O..

I wasnt impressed by Rory. He had about 20 chances to finish BJ and for whatever reason he just didnt. He's quick, but geez, BJ must have the most incredible chin ever or Rory doesnt pack a punch. I dunno. Just wasnt impressed.

BJ has never been KO'ed..

Diaz and GSP did fuck him up though..

I was totally impressed. But Penn looked like shit so maybe that contributed.

Penn has always looked bad at 170 except against Hughes, who was a small 170er, specially by today's standards..

Rory looked awesome.

Rory is gonna fight Condit at 158..

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2012/1...58-in-montreal

Dana offered Diaz and GSP a fight..

http://www.mmafighting.com/2012/12/1...march-but-deal

Hendricks will take a fight is UFC won't give him GSP..

http://www.mmamania.com/2012/12/11/3...lterweight-mma

So who should Hendricks fight??

This make no sense at all.. I would have:

GSP vs. Hendricks
Diaz vs. Condit
Rory vs. Kos/Fitch/Kampman

From a money making perspective, GSP/Diaz makes perfect sense and will probably generate more money than any other opponent for GSP minus Silva. Plus, the Diaz vs. Condit fight was close enough where people could have claimed Diaz won.

MacDonald/Condit is the fight that doesn't make sense to me. I get Rory wanting to avenge his loss, but MacDonald vs. Hendricks could easily be a #1 contenders fight. The winner of Maia/Fitch might be intriguing but they haven't even scheduled that fight yet.

I am def looking forward to GSP vs Diaz but they could have had it and the other mentioned fights..

GSP/Hendricks
Diaz/Condit

The only way they COULDN'T match up GSP/Diaz after that is only if GSP wins and Diaz loses.. If they both win BOOM big fight for the end of the year.. If they both lose BOOM a big fight at the end of the year.. If GSP loses and Diaz wins, BOOM a big fight at the end of the year..

3 ways it would happen, 1 way it wouldn't..

I think Diaz' return alone will draw, specially against Condit who last beat him.. I also think GSP/Hendrick will do fine on GSP's drawing power alone..

I'd rather see Rory/diaz

Diaz/GSP is supposedly official but I could only find an article translated from French..

A moth named Diaz..

Dana White confirmed this (GSP/Diaz and Condit/McDonald) and that Hendricks vs Ellenberger was also added to this card.. He called it "a mini ww tournament with the best ww's in he world" on one card..

Robbie Lawler is coming back and will fight Kos at UFC 157..

I cant wait for this. I hope Diaz wrecks that Frenchie.

This is the biggest moment of Diaz's life by the way. If he backs all the shit he talks up on this one, look the fuck out.

Wonder if Woodley will face Ellenberger..

I'd like to see Tarec Saffiedine. If Ellenberger was a good enough matchup for the #1 contender, then he should be a good enough test for the SF champion and it's a credible win for Tarec if he pulls it off.

Thought Saffedine too, would of even liked him vs Condit.

Plus hes #10 in the UFC RANKINGS.

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/0...ger-at-ufc-158

Marquart is gonna make his UFC return to face Ellenberger..


kinda weird

might as well make this the 158 thread

hawt fan-made trailer

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I'm gonna make an "official" one early next week, unless one of you guys will do it so every single thread isn't made by me..

Was just waiting on this Fuel card to happen first..

Dana said on JRE that the Diaz boys have cost him over $50k cause he keeps sending the countdown crew to interview them and they never show up..

He might have been talking about the past.. There's no way they finished the coundown show for Nick yet.. They usually film that two week out from the fight..

Lets update this convo

I'm hearing we'll have Rory McDonald vs Robbie Lawler before the end of the year, which will be an amazing fight. No way Lawler sits back and waits on Rory like Ellenberger did.


After last night I wanted Brown vs Lawler because that would be an absolute war, but with Condit and Kampman tied up, I can see them putting Brown in against someone like Ellenberger or maybe Woodley.


Pretty sure the winner of GSP/Hendricks will fight the winner of Condit/Kampman 2


Where does Diaz fall into this? (I know he's having issue outside of the cage right now, but he needs to be mentioned)


Thoughts??

Welterweight is interesting again. I think we should discuss who is next up for a title shot. First of all, Lawler looked amazing and I wouldnt mind seeing an imediate rematch. I actually thin thats their best option. Condit getting hurt really monkey wrenchs the situation bc not only is he out, but it takes away for Woodleys preformance, where he looked amazing.

I hate the idea of Rory getting the shot. His last fights before the Maia one were horrid. He called out a retired BJ Penn, had a snoozefest with ellenberger, and got beat up by Lawler. One win over Maia doesn't put him in the mix imo.

Woodley was looking good, but people are gonna say he didnt beat Condit. Lombard has potential but needs to finish.

Id kinda like to see Woodley vs Rory, Hendricks vs Lawler 2, and let a returning Matt Brown fight Lombard.

On top of all that, we have this

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Lawler vs Diaz 2 makes my dick hard

Goddamit Tommy Toe Hold, don't you fucking let me down.