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PrettyCool 01-17-2013 12:39 PM

would the undertaker have gotten as big if he was black
 
Lets imagine if the undertaker was a black african american.his gimmick and push stays the same, he is just a big black dude. Do u think he would have gotten as popular or is there hidden racism in the wrestling world?

Kane Knight 01-17-2013 01:01 PM

Black people tend to be pretty big. I mean, we bred them that way. You don't want scrawny field labour, do you?

R4pToRz 01-17-2013 01:38 PM

no a stupid nigger has never made it passed mid card

Perry Saturn 01-17-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrettyCool (Post 4089308)
Lets imagine if the undertaker was a black african american.his gimmick and push stays the same, he is just a big black dude. Do u think he would have gotten as popular or is there hidden racism in the wrestling world?

Like Boogeyman? Or Kamala?

Shadrick 01-17-2013 01:59 PM

There's racism everywhere. Even psychological racism that people don't even realize that they possess.

But to answer this question....we don't know.

MoFo 01-17-2013 02:04 PM

He plays a dead man gimmick who shoots lightening bolts out his fingertips, I doubt anything would of stopped him from being popular if he can get over with that baggage and besides, black people always die first in the movies and TV shows anyway.

KyleEmmott 01-17-2013 04:06 PM

Absolutley not.

FourFifty 01-17-2013 06:26 PM

No. As someone who is a "dead man" he needs to be pale.

Shisen Kopf 01-17-2013 06:32 PM

Vince would never let a colored get that over.

Theo Dious 01-17-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FourFifty (Post 4089564)
No. As someone who is a "dead man" he needs to be pale.

This.

SlickyTrickyDamon 01-17-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4089567)
Vince would never let a colored get that over.

Except for The Rock.

KIRA 01-17-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4089567)
Vince would never let a colored get that over.

I'm almost certain that in his private life he uses words like "the coloreds" and "the blacks".

Lock Jaw 01-17-2013 07:20 PM

The Ministry of Darkness would have been the Nation of Domination.

Dark One 01-17-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4089621)
The Ministry of Darkness would have been the Nation of Domination.

Or very awkward.

James Steele 01-17-2013 10:08 PM

The Ministry of Darkness would have been a much more literal name.

Dark One 01-17-2013 10:51 PM

Wait. They already did that gimmick.

http://madeofawesomeness.com/batista.../051602/01.jpg

The Condor 01-17-2013 10:56 PM

This is actually a good question. Judging by Papa Shango, it could go either way, but in the early 90's there was a dearth of black stars and it was around that time that Ron Simmons broke the color barrier and became World Champion. Could go either way, but I don't think they would have done anything different if Mark happened to be black.

Tom Guycott 01-17-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 4089320)
Black people tend to be pretty big. I mean, we bred them that way. You don't want scrawny field labour, do you?

You should be careful with such statements, KK. This is how Jimmy The Greek went down.

Savio 01-17-2013 11:22 PM

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Rock Bottom 01-18-2013 09:48 AM

he woulda got more over than r truth if r truth was white so lets think about that for a minute.........................

Kane Knight 01-18-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4089870)
You should be careful with such statements, KK. This is how Jimmy The Greek went down.

I'm down with the coloureds and the queers.

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Savio 01-18-2013 12:55 PM

He probably would have been released and went to WCW as:

"The Big" Mark Calloway

They might have also placed him in Harlem Heat

DAMN iNATOR 01-19-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4089567)
Vince would never let a colored get that over.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4089580)
Except for The Rock.

You’re both wrong...
<iframe frameborder="0" width="480" height="360" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/embed/video/x6d7td"></iframe><br /><a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6d7td_rey-mysterio-vs-king-booker-23-7-06_sport" target="_blank">Rey Mysterio vs King Booker 23/7/06 pt1</a> <i>by <a href="http://www.dailymotion.com/Filthy_Animals" target="_blank">Filthy_Animals</a></i>

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AND...

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(match ends @ ≈1:55)

Enough with the revisionist history, you two.

Rollermacka 01-20-2013 08:17 AM

That is interesting, because the argument is that it was Mark, not the Undertaker that got over with the fans. Supposedly, there was somebody using the "Undertaker" gimmick before him (not Brian Lee). I guess it's like asking if Steve Lombardi had been the Original Doink instead of Matt Borne, would the character been as popular?

PrettyCool 01-20-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 4091807)
That is interesting, because the argument is that it was Mark, not the Undertaker that got over with the fans. Supposedly, there was somebody using the "Undertaker" gimmick before him (not Brian Lee). I guess it's like asking if Steve Lombardi had been the Original Doink instead of Matt Borne, would the character been as popular?



Stone Cold Essa Rios.

Kane Knight 01-20-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 4091807)
That is interesting, because the argument is that it was Mark, not the Undertaker that got over with the fans. Supposedly, there was somebody using the "Undertaker" gimmick before him (not Brian Lee). I guess it's like asking if Steve Lombardi had been the Original Doink instead of Matt Borne, would the character been as popular?

OMG is Steve Lombardi black?


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