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NormanSmiley 03-05-2013 07:22 PM

you are VKM. You have a time machine & hindsight
 
what if anything from the past would you change, big or small. discuss

Corporate CockSnogger 03-05-2013 07:23 PM

Never give Chris Benoit a job.

whiteyford 03-05-2013 07:25 PM

Book the Invasion angle right, maybe spend a little and get the big names early.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-05-2013 07:27 PM

No Blue Blazer gimmick in 99.

Ermaximus 03-05-2013 07:28 PM

Wouldn't do the Montreal Screw Job.

Wouldn't push Maven, Steiner, or Lashley.

Would push Ryder, Christian, and Kofi, to the moon.

Wouldn't make big scary guys faces that aren't intimidating at all, IE Henry, Albert, Brodus, etc.

Skippord 03-05-2013 07:30 PM

I probably don't let Owen Hart pile drive Stone Cold

whiteyford 03-05-2013 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 4139680)
Wouldn't do the Montreal Screw Job.

Wouldn't push Maven, Steiner, or Lashley.

Would push Ryder, Christian, and Kofi, to the moon.

Wouldn't make big scary guys faces that aren't intimidating at all, IE Henry, Albert, Brodus, etc.

I was with you until the Steiner part, you need to give him a live mic and just let him cut promo after promo, even when they're not on tv he needs to have a live mic at all times.

Razzamajazz 03-05-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4139676)
Book the Invasion angle right, maybe spend a little and get the big names early.


this. so much wasted potential.

just think of how much money it could have brought in

Bad News Gertner 03-05-2013 07:36 PM

Vince was right to do the Screwjob. It got rid of that over-rated, no drawing piece of shit, and it set off one of the greatest heels in history: Vince himself.

Going back in time, I'd say the Invasion angle as well. I enjoyed it, but so much more could have been done.

Ermaximus 03-05-2013 07:36 PM

Wait, how do we know you meant Vincent Kennedy McMahon and not Voodoo Kin Mafia?

Ermaximus 03-05-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4139687)
I was with you until the Steiner part, you need to give him a live mic and just let him cut promo after promo, even when they're not on tv he needs to have a live mic at all times.

Compromise then?

He never wrestles, but gets a 20 minute allotted promo show every week like Piper's Pit or Miz Tv?

Bad News Gertner 03-05-2013 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 4139680)
Wouldn't do the Montreal Screw Job.

Wouldn't push Maven, Steiner, or Lashley.

Would push Ryder, Christian, and Kofi, to the moon.

Wouldn't make big scary guys faces that aren't intimidating at all, IE Henry, Albert, Brodus, etc.

Kofi can't talk, Ryder is mid card at best and Christian pretty much fulfilled his potential. He blows as a face.

Ermaximus 03-05-2013 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4139699)
Kofi can't talk, Ryder is mid card at best and Christian pretty much fulfilled his potential. He blows as a face.

He was a legit badass heel back in 04-05 though. The problem with him is that they didn't make him a main eventer until it was too late.

Bad News Gertner 03-05-2013 07:42 PM

Yeah, Christian with Tomko was pretty awesome. Enjoyed them immensely.

Theo Dious 03-05-2013 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 4139680)
Wouldn't do the Montreal Screw Job.

You wouldn't do the thing that gave Steve Austin the perfect heel machine to propel him and your company higher than ever?

Keith 03-05-2013 09:05 PM

The only thing I can think of that VKM would probably do different is pushing the Ultimate Warrior as the "heir apparent" to Hulk Hogan back in 1990.

That didn't exactly work out the way Vince envisioned. Warrior just didn't have that love and passion for wrestling.

And bringing him back in '96 was even worse.

Wishbone 03-05-2013 09:08 PM

Go back in time and make John Cena stop wearing the fucking jorts and give him a pair of decent trunks or tights because I can't fucking stand Cena's ring gear... On a serious note though I'd probably go back and implement the wellness policy sooner and actually take it more seriously. Might have saved some good, talented men's lives that way.

Savio 03-05-2013 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 4139680)
Wouldn't do the Montreal Screw Job.

Oh this helped the WWF 10 fold

Keith 03-05-2013 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 4139761)
Oh this helped the WWF 10 fold

Some wrestlers, like X-Pac, say Bret and Vince were both in on this, that it was all a work.

IDK.

Savio 03-05-2013 09:20 PM

If you watch bret harts DVD it kinda seems like that would be a solution bret would come up with....but in that same movie his wife looked legit pissed.

Corporate CockSnogger 03-05-2013 09:25 PM

"The Rated R Superstar" Billy Gunn
"The Cerebral Assasin" Billy Gunn
"The Legend Killer" Billy Gunn

All would've been good alternatives for Vinnie Mac if he wanted to alter something for the better.

Nicky Fives 03-05-2013 09:25 PM

I likely enjoyed the Invasion angle more than most, but the potential of that is just too great to re-do.... the whole Over The Edge thing would also be on that list as well.....

Keith 03-05-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 4139768)
If you watch bret harts DVD it kinda seems like that would be a solution bret would come up with....but in that same movie his wife looked legit pissed.

Well, Bret was cheating on her for years while on the road, so she was oblivious to everything that was going on back then lol.

Theo Dious 03-05-2013 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 4139764)
Some wrestlers, like X-Pac, say Bret and Vince were both in on this, that it was all a work.

I can't believe anyone is still entertaining this as an actual possibility.

Ruien 03-05-2013 09:29 PM

Beniot would have been fired and offered a spot in rehab two months before he snapped.

Keith 03-05-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 4139777)
I can't believe anyone is still entertaining this as an actual possibility.

Part of me believes it.

It's just kinda "convenient" that as all this was going down, Bret all of a sudden had decided to shoot a documentary that gained all-access to WWF's backstage scene.

IDK.

The Condor 03-05-2013 11:54 PM

Send Stephanie to a boarding school and make sure she never comes in contact with Triple H

Keith 03-05-2013 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar (Post 4139839)
Send Stephanie to a boarding school and make sure she never comes in contact with Randy Savage


Rock Bottom 03-06-2013 12:02 AM

XFL and Owen Hart, realistically.

Rock Bottom 03-06-2013 12:03 AM

Time travel is real, so let's keep this real.

whiteyford 03-06-2013 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ermaximus (Post 4139697)
Compromise then?

He never wrestles, but gets a 20 minute allotted promo show every week like Piper's Pit or Miz Tv?

Just fit him with a mic and set up a different audio feed for him, or make him the social media ambassador, nothing bad could happen right?

Ermaximus 03-06-2013 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 4139772)
"The Rated R Superstar" Billy Gunn
"The Cerebral Assasin" Billy Gunn
"The Legend Killer" Billy Gunn

All would've been good alternatives for Vinnie Mac if he wanted to alter something for the better.

"The One" Bob Holly

whiteyford 03-06-2013 12:50 PM

"The Next Big Thing" Funaki.

Wait, I'm doing it wrong.

whiteyford 03-06-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 4139768)
If you watch bret harts DVD it kinda seems like that would be a solution bret would come up with....but in that same movie his wife looked legit pissed.

On paper everybody won, in reality Bret got fucked in WCW.

Emperor Smeat 03-06-2013 02:34 PM

Don't give Hogan almost absolute creative control as a clause in his contract.

Did a lot more bad than good after a few years in the WWF and almost the entire time he was in WCW.

Flash Funk 03-06-2013 07:54 PM

Bring Macho back for a few appearances and HOF induction before he died.

Curd 03-06-2013 08:11 PM

Have Kane win the 2001 Royal Rumble. Austin already had two Rumble victories and didn't need another Rumble victory going into his Two-Man Power Trip / Alliance heel turn.

Bad News Gertner 03-06-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4140288)
Don't give Hogan almost absolute creative control as a clause in his contract.

Did a lot more bad than good after a few years in the WWF and almost the entire time he was in WCW.

From 85-98 Hogan was gold so I don't know how you can say that.

Classy and Gassy 03-06-2013 08:44 PM

walk gingerly to the ring at the end of the Rumble 2005 to restart it

Corporate CockSnogger 03-06-2013 08:50 PM

Lol Vince sitting down in the ring barking orders is one of the most hilarious things to happen in wrestling.


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