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Bad News Gertner 03-06-2013 05:41 AM

What is the single most important/influential ppv in wrestling history excluding Wrestlemania 1
 
Came up with this in the shower at work about 15 minutes ago. Pick one singular ppv that you think is the most important/influential in wrestling history excluding Wrestlemania 1.

My pick is Wrestlemania 14

You had Austin defeating HBK which was a changing of the guard and completed the rise of Austin

You had The Rock make his first Wrestlemania appearence

The coming out party for Sable is her mixed tag match. I think people forget how huge Sable was. The women's championship was brought out of retirement for her.

Kane vs Undertaker was a HUGE angle.

The New Age Outlaws really had their coming out party as well.

Mike Tyson's appearance really put a stamp on the new direction the company was going.

whiteyford 03-06-2013 05:44 AM

Are we excluding Wrestlemania 1?

#1-norm-fan 03-06-2013 05:44 AM

Was thinking WM 13 simply because the double turn had such huge implications for the future of the business. 14 was more well rounded in that aspect though.

WrestleMania 3 also deserves honorable mention obviously.

Bad News Gertner 03-06-2013 05:45 AM

Yeah, we should exclude Wrestlemania 1

#BROKEN Hasney 03-06-2013 05:47 AM

Lot of coming out parties at WM14. Sounds a bit gay if you ask me.

Bad News Gertner 03-06-2013 05:48 AM

Well.....did you see what Goldust wore.

Bad News Gertner 03-06-2013 05:51 AM

Seriously, how fucking awesome was Goldust during that era. His theme was the best.

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#BROKEN Hasney 03-06-2013 05:51 AM

And Marc Mero was constantly having a coming out party with that tash.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-06-2013 05:53 AM

Goldust was the fucking man from debut up to and including when he was with the Blue Meanie and Ryan Shamrock. He had his moments since then, but he was never the same after.

#1-norm-fan 03-06-2013 05:54 AM

I feel like Lady Gaga was a big fan of The Artist Formerly Known as Goldust.

XL 03-06-2013 07:53 AM

Wasn't Mania 13 The Rock's first Mania appearance? Or are we considering The Rock to be something entirely different to Rocky Maivia?

Shisen Kopf 03-06-2013 07:55 AM

The one that had the gimmick battle royale

#BROKEN Hasney 03-06-2013 07:59 AM

Bash at the Beach '96 has to be up there as well. Sure, it didn't have as many moments as some, but the ending was one of the single most important moments.

The Condor 03-06-2013 08:12 AM

Wrestlemania 14 gets my vote, kick started one of the biggest boom periods in the industries history.

Classy and Gassy 03-06-2013 08:28 AM

Wrestlemania 3 would be my vote- Hogan and Andre with tens of thousands in attendance solidified Wrestlemania as the premier event.

Wrestlemania 14 was huge too, springboarding WWF over WCW

Rammsteinmad 03-06-2013 09:16 AM

The first TNA Lockdown. I mean, every match taking place in a cage?! Brilliant!

slik 03-06-2013 09:25 AM

WrestleMania 3, 14 and X7 in a triple tie.

MoFo 03-06-2013 01:36 PM

Wrestlemania X7 is constantly talked about, so that.

Wrestlemania 21 when Cena became a main eventer too, WWE changed (for better or worse)

NormanSmiley 03-06-2013 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 4140227)
Wrestlemania X7 is constantly talked about,

on the internet maybe.


influential...likely 3. 1 &2 were not on PPV so 3 was the first mania that was with still some closed circuit action. one was a gamble and 2 was a crapshoot with the formatting that could have imploded at any moment. 3 was the first homerun. it also had matches the influenced future superstars.

14 was damn important too.Tyson being there put all kinds of eyes on it and it propelled the WWF past WCW. the Austin character was off and running

Savio 03-06-2013 02:59 PM

Vengeance 2006

Emperor Smeat 03-06-2013 03:04 PM

Wrestlemania 3.

XL 03-06-2013 06:49 PM

On a negative note: December To Dismember. Killed ECW as anything other than a televised talent development show.

Triple Naitch 03-06-2013 07:04 PM

Bash at the Beach 96 is up there. So is Survivor Series 97. This is where Vince became the legend he is today.

CSL 03-06-2013 07:18 PM

would probably say the build and execution of BATB '96, was the catalyst for changing the direction of the entire industry. WrestleMania 14 just solidified WWF/Austin

Juan 03-06-2013 08:17 PM

InVasion. Even though everything went downhill after that, the PPV was the peak and culmination of that era.

HTrain90 03-07-2013 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4140487)
would probably say the build and execution of BATB '96, was the catalyst for changing the direction of the entire industry. WrestleMania 14 just solidified WWF/Austin

I'd say these same two, but with SS first.

James Steele 03-07-2013 04:36 AM

Starrcade 83

Nicky Fives 03-07-2013 10:00 AM

Mania 14..... Austin's title win launched the Attitude Era.....

Rollermacka 03-07-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4140850)
Mania 14..... Austin's title win launched the Attitude Era.....

I'm suprised nobody has said King of the Ring 96 yet. I ordered the PPV, I don't remember much about the main event but I do remember Austin winning the tournement and the infamous speech as the new King

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Jordan 03-07-2013 12:51 PM

KOTR 98 should be considered. It fed bump babies for years and created retarded feds like CZW doing ridiculous bumps.

Nothing has ever topped the brutality of Mankind/Undertaker HIAC
.....

I love WM 17 but I don't think it will be remembered as an industry changing event.

I'd say WM 20 would be a lead contender if Benoit didn't Benoit his family.

Droford 03-07-2013 01:42 PM

Survivor Series 1997? Thought for sure that'd have a bunch of votes

NormanSmiley 03-07-2013 02:35 PM

to me SS 97 is more infamous than influential. it did spark a few parodies and mock screwjobs in wcw but all were fails

mike adamle 03-07-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4140084)
The first TNA Lockdown. I mean, every match taking place in a cage?! Brilliant!

Plus Chris Candido died because from injuries sustained from one of the cage matches, really putting over the DANGER involved in EVERY MATCH TAKING PLACE IN A CAGE!!!

erickman 03-07-2013 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4140795)
Starrcade 83

yep i would put the 1st starrcade dog coller match and flars 1st nwa belt

Fox 03-08-2013 04:29 PM

From a historical standpoint, Mania 3. Easy. Nothing else really compares.

From a personal standpoint, Starrcade 1998. The night Goldberg took his first loss. In hindsight, it was solidified proof that WCW's show runners were not interested in what was best for business and were willing to put a bullet in the biggest angle / most popular star in the company, for reasons of pure ego. It was the beginning of the end and the death of WCW influenced the wrestling business more than anything else.

Lock Jaw 03-08-2013 04:33 PM

Starrcade 97 > Starrcade 98 in importance/influence levels. Proven by science.

Fox 03-08-2013 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4141697)
Starrcade 97 > Starrcade 98 in importance/influence levels. Proven by science.

Explain.

Lock Jaw 03-08-2013 04:43 PM

Culmination of one of the biggest angles ever. The night Sting took on Hogan, and they couldn't let Sting win cleanly. In hindsight, it was solidified proof that WCW's show runners were not interested in what was best for business and were willing to put a bullet in the biggest angle / most popular star in the company, for reasons of pure ego. It was the beginning of the end and the death of WCW influenced the wrestling business more than anything else.

Emperor Smeat 03-08-2013 04:52 PM

Is that the match where they screwed up Bret Hart's ref spot?

mike adamle 03-08-2013 04:54 PM

Obviously


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