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The Naitch 03-29-2013 08:37 AM

Why didn't they do Stone Cold vs. Goldberg?
 
Although they are friend, did their egos get in the way? One of them would've had to do THE JOB, and I don't think both parties would ever lie down for eachother.

I think Austin knew deep down that he started to lose relevance around the time Goldberg came in, and for him to lose to Goldberg would've been a bad business decision for his stock.

Goldberg just came in it would've made more sense to have Goldberg win. I could feel (and I'm just making a dumb assumption) that Austin felt that Goldberg was some sort of threat, (there's only room for one bald head with goatee in the WWE) and to me it felt that Austin was giving off the "if you can't beat him, join him" vibe (judging by the beer bashes they would have together.

But yeah, Austin wasn't in shape I'm guessing, so all we got was the Sheriff role from him alongside the active Goldberg (World Heavyweight Champion)

PrettyCool 03-29-2013 08:46 AM

Ylu could say the WWE were very Jewish about this!

Supreme Olajuwon 03-29-2013 08:47 AM

You could say the WWE were very Jewish about this!

Supreme Olajuwon 03-29-2013 08:48 AM

Dammit, PrettyCool stole my joke!

Steveviscious89 03-29-2013 09:48 AM

I think Goldberg actually wanted a match, even before being in WWE. Bret Hart alluded to him putting up money to make the match happen in a promo on Nitro once.

Honestly, even though they looked the same, they were not even remotely the same wrestler. Austin's gimmick was to be a brawler with high durability. Goldberg was just made to be indestructible in the ring....he didn't even have great mic skills, so they left it up to the matches to tell most of his story(what a novel idea). The match probably would have been awkward and I'm not sure how you would book Austin to go over because Goldberg could have just run right through him and reinjured his neck/back.

The match they did have..Goldberg vs Lesnar.....watching that I wasn't even sure if they were serious about what they were suppose to do in the match. It was almost as if they intentionally made it boring and nearly unwatchable. So I'm not saying that match was any better than what Austin/Goldberg would have been, but I'm not sure it would have been any better.

Savio 03-29-2013 10:34 AM

Austins last match was WM19, Goldberg debuted in WWE the night after WM19.

Rammsteinmad 03-29-2013 10:46 AM

Probably because by the time Goldberg came to WWE, it wasn't 1999 anymore.

Rammsteinmad 03-29-2013 10:47 AM

Plus, Goldberg was busy enough losing fights to Chris Jericho. :cool:

Jordan 03-29-2013 10:55 AM

That match would have worked during the InVasion, if WWE could have stolen Goldberg... after Austin turned heel somehow it could have worked great.

Keith 03-29-2013 12:07 PM

'Cause Goldberg's a bitch.

Shisen Kopf 03-29-2013 12:22 PM

Jewish like prettycool an the other guy said.

XCaliber 03-29-2013 12:35 PM

It's very likely seeing that he refused to job to Scott Hall the year before and did not want to put over Brock Lesnar so that role ended up being given to Rock and Hogan and it didn't end up hurting either of their carreers.

Curd 03-29-2013 12:41 PM

I have a hard time seeing how someone with a Stone Cold or Goldberg mentality could break into the biz today. They'd probably quit a promotion after being told by the booker they'll have to put over the WSU Women's Champion or otherwise have to cooperate when a woman wrestler wants to suplex them.

I'm surprised WWE hasn't jobbed Gillberg to Kaitlyn. Maybe Duane is too busy playing softball with Sid. :)

James Steele 03-29-2013 01:18 PM

I imagine Stone Cold didn't start refusing jobs until he was an established star.

Curd 03-29-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4158322)
I imagine Stone Cold didn't start refusing jobs until he was an established star.

I agree that he was a decent team player when he put over Mikey Whipwreck in between WCW and WWE, but ever since winning KOTR '96 and having that 3-year hot streak, Austin refused to make rising stars like Booker T and Rob Van Dam look good.

So did HHH, but at least Hunter didn't promote himself to win 3 Royal Rumbles like Austin did. Kane would have benefited from winning the 2001 Rumble instead of having Austin win yet again. Heck, Austin even refused to put over Hogan!

Fox 03-29-2013 04:34 PM

The timing was never right. Goldberg was sitting out the rest of his contract with AOL-Time Warner and Vince wasn't about to buy out one of the most expensive contracts on WCW's payroll (although he could have arguably made it back ten-fold from Goldberg VS Austin).

By the time things were "right" for Goldberg to come in, Austin's neck was beyond repair and his career was over. He wrestled Rock in extreme pain at WrestleMania XIX, and that was the end for him.


It's the ultimate dream match. And it'll stay that way.

whiteyford 03-30-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by XCaliber (Post 4158286)
It's very likely seeing that he refused to job to Scott Hall the year before and did not want to put over Brock Lesnar so that role ended up being given to Rock and Hogan and it didn't end up hurting either of their carreers.

The version Austin tells is that he didn't want to put Brock over on free TV when their 1st match could draw big on PPV which makes sense.

Sixx 03-30-2013 09:16 AM

Did anyone still really care about Goldberg when he came to WWE?

Theo Dious 03-30-2013 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4159047)
The version Austin tells is that he didn't want to put Brock over on free TV when their 1st match could draw big on PPV which makes sense.

Going deeper into it though, Austin was really burnt out and in a very bad place mentally when they asked him to do the biggest jackass thing imaginable booking-wise.

Theo Dious 03-30-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4158322)
I imagine Stone Cold didn't start refusing jobs until he was an established star.

Can we go for THE established star please? When you almost single-handedly revitalize an entire company on the verge of being put out of business I think you have the capital to veto some shitty ideas.

Theo Dious 03-30-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sixx (Post 4159077)
Did anyone still really care about Goldberg when he came to WWE?

For about five minutes, sure.

Theo Dious 03-30-2013 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Savior (Post 4158228)
Austins last match was WM19, Goldberg debuted in WWE the night after WM19.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4158230)
Probably because by the time Goldberg came to WWE, it wasn't 1999 anymore.

And this is the answer to the initial question.

Mr. Nerfect 04-02-2013 09:55 AM

Goldberg's WWE run made me quite sad.

Savio 04-02-2013 10:14 AM

Ehh it was decent enough, he got his 2nd WHC run out of it.

Mongo Lloyd 04-02-2013 12:46 PM

because greenberg sucks camel ass


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