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Rasslin' Fan 29 05-09-2013 10:54 AM

Would Sin Cara work better as a heel?
 
I think he would. Everyone on these boards seemed to like Sin Cara negro more than they liked the regular Sin Cara. Just have him show off some heel tendencies, he doesn't even need to change anything else.

Maybe give him a mouth hole so he can spit out mist or something like Tajiri.

The Condor 05-09-2013 11:14 AM

Sin Cara Negro (Hunico) was a better wrestler, it's not character related

DaveBrawl 05-09-2013 11:35 AM

You shut your filthy mouth Crazy Edgar.

Love Sin Cara.

Rammsteinmad 05-09-2013 12:09 PM

To some degree, Sin Cara already displays heelish characteristics.

http://www.wwe24seven.com/images/51/sin-cara-3.jpg

It's rude to point. :nono:

Vastardikai 05-09-2013 01:54 PM

No. Because he's the Ahmed Johnson of masked wrestlers in the WWE.

In that he's CONSTANTLY injured.

Chavo Classic 05-09-2013 02:52 PM

He deffo needs a mouthpiece. Simply going flippity-flip isn't going to connect with an audience.

Turning him heel would be the perfect excuse for brining in a manager. Something as basic as running an angle where Sin Cara is tired of being ignored and disrespcted by the WWE Universe after giving up his life as a top guy in Mexico.

Lock Jaw 05-09-2013 03:41 PM

It would be much easier for him to get over as a heel. I have said it before, and will say it again.... a dude with a full face mask will never get truly over as a face because you can't "see" his emotions/feelings.

Rollermacka 05-09-2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar (Post 4198808)
Sin Cara Negro (Hunico) was a better wrestler, it's not character related

I miss Hunico and Camacho. I liked the gimmick and as a tag team

Curd 05-09-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chavo Classic (Post 4198876)
He deffo needs a mouthpiece. Simply going flippity-flip isn't going to connect with an audience.

Turning him heel would be the perfect excuse for brining in a manager. Something as basic as running an angle where Sin Cara is tired of being ignored and disrespcted by the WWE Universe after giving up his life as a top guy in Mexico.

The premise sounds good. The notion, "I quit my job a few years ago for THIS?" would really be a diss against the WWE Universe.

dingdongyo 05-09-2013 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chavo Classic (Post 4198876)
Simply going flippity-flip isn't going to connect with an audience.

i, for one, love flippity-flip. but i grant you that i cannot speak for a whole audience.

Heisenberg 05-10-2013 12:10 AM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/3897958d5...c6nio1_400.gif

This table spot is great. Felt bad for him

GD 05-10-2013 01:10 AM

Remember when Hunico made Daniel Bryan tap out?

Wishbone 05-10-2013 01:12 AM

Sin Cara will never rise to Rey's level for three reasons
1) He can't speak english or at least can't speak it very well
2) He still hasn't adjusted to the WWE style despite like 2 years to do so
3) Like someone else said, masks are fine but if you can't express emotion then people just won't like you

Tom Guycott 05-10-2013 03:24 AM

:sigh:


http://www.tpww.net/forums/picture.p...pictureid=2036

dronepool 05-10-2013 03:35 AM

Sure why not

GD 05-10-2013 03:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru Dave (Post 4199113)
Remember when Hunico made Daniel Bryan tap out?

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/awws_E2krzw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Curd 05-11-2013 08:28 PM

Sin Cara might get heat by placing a metal plate under his mask every match and headbutting his opponents to win.

Mr. Nerfect 05-11-2013 10:02 PM

I do not buy this shit about Sin Cara not being able to connect with audiences or not being able to adapt to the WWE style. He just needs a proper program with a heel that matters and a few matches that people care about.

A respectful series with Chris Jericho would do wonders for the guy.

Rasslin' Fan 29 05-12-2013 10:39 AM

Yeah I agree. Just give him something to do. He was fun in his tag team with Rey, before it dissolved into nothing and he was made meaningless again. Also, give the guy a fucking titan tron vid, I remember at the SmackDown! tapings I went to a few months ago I was laughing my ass off with my lil bro at his Tron, dudes just pointing at shit and standing around in a random building.

Shisen Kopf 05-12-2013 10:46 AM

Sin Carais a generic Mexican. Don't like him.

Rasslin' Fan 29 05-12-2013 10:53 AM

That could have something to do with it. Zeb Colter is very popular because of his viewpoints. Whereas Sin Cara gets crickets when he enters the ring.

Shisen Kopf 05-12-2013 10:56 AM

They should bring back the Mexicools and have Sin Cara get run over by the Juan Deere

Rasslin' Fan 29 05-12-2013 12:27 PM

I would have him join the Mexicools, a group of Mexicans should be able to get over if one can't. Just have them disguise their weaknesses and let others take over in the group when those are their strengths.

Rammsteinmad 05-12-2013 01:16 PM

Sin Cara also botches a lot, and there is that small thing with him always getting injured. Guy so far has been a huge, huge failure in my opinion.

Rammsteinmad 05-12-2013 01:18 PM

I also remember when the whole Sin Cara/Sin Cara Negro thing was kicking off, their in-ring encounters were incredible to watch, so incredibly timed spots and great chemistry between the two. The really made you think that when they finally have a match they would put on a performance that we've never seen in the WWE before.

Then they finally had the match, and it was basically huracanranas and arm drags, and shit loads of "boring" chants. :(

Curd 05-12-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasslin' Fan 29 (Post 4200994)
Yeah I agree. Just give him something to do. He was fun in his tag team with Rey, before it dissolved into nothing and he was made meaningless again. Also, give the guy a fucking titan tron vid, I remember at the SmackDown! tapings I went to a few months ago I was laughing my ass off with my lil bro at his Tron, dudes just pointing at shit and standing around in a random building.

Give Sin Cara a faux-Power Ranger gimmick in which he knocks down buildings while fighting Godzilla-type monsters on the Titantron. :)

Then have him interfere in matches in which the heel is winning, as he cannot let the heel win due to being what the announcers call an "agent of good"... :lol:

Tom Guycott 05-13-2013 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curd (Post 4201268)
Give Sin Cara a faux-Power Ranger gimmick in which he knocks down buildings while fighting Godzilla-type monsters on the Titantron. :)

Then have him interfere in matches in which the heel is winning, as he cannot let the heel win due to being what the announcers call an "agent of good"... :lol:


You can't go wrong with the La Parka/Kai En Tai gimmick of getting dubbed in voiceovers.

And also stop the damned mood lighting for his matches. You ever notice the few times they DIDN'T do that, the botches decreased? I mean, not counting the times it was Hunico under the hood. We get he's supposed to be a big deal, but I'm wondering if at least SOME of his slip ups are caused by legit difficulty seeing.



Oh, wait... back to the first point... have him team up with a returning

http://www.wwe.com/f/wysiwyg/image/2...Rosey3_642.jpg

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo...b6iyo1_500.jpg


Superheroes. (check) Color coded. (check) Five of them. (check, check, check)

You have your Power Rangers/Kamen Riders/Beetleborgs/Superhuman Samuari/Sentai Senshi whatever superstable!

Bang!

Curd 05-13-2013 08:04 PM

Tom Guycott proposes a good "planets aligned" situation, which I like.

Mr. Nerfect 05-16-2013 11:50 PM

Hunico is fucking great and Stacy Keibler is fucking bangin'.

DAMN iNATOR 05-17-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4198824)
To some degree, Sin Cara already displays heelish characteristics.

http://www.wwe24seven.com/images/51/sin-cara-3.jpg

It's rude to point. :nono:

Plus he always leaves the lights on during his matches...:shifty:

Curtis 05-17-2013 12:59 PM

Sin cara sucks.

mike adamle 05-17-2013 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4204534)
Hunico is fucking great and Stacy Keibler is fucking bangin'.

You're on to something here. Stacy Keilber should come back and be Hunico's valet.

Ultra Mantis 05-17-2013 06:14 PM

Sin Cara would work better in Mexico.

Curtis 05-17-2013 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 4204999)
Sin Cara would work better in Mexico.

No way, Mexicans sit around and do nothing in Mexico except go shoot at each other sometimes.
At least in USA they mow lawns and clean gutters! And wrestle for WWE.


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