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James Steele 06-21-2013 02:04 PM

Gash or Gold - CSL Judges Your Favorite Wrestling Moments, Matches, and Memories!
 
It is quite simple. Post in this thread some of your favorite matches, moments, and memories. TPWW Icon, CSL, will then judge those moments and give them a rating of either GASH (aka dogshit) or GOLD (aka Triple H's Indian Deathlock).

I'll begin:

Moments
Triple H returns at MSG - 2001
Ric Flair's Promo on Triple H before their world title match - 2002

Matches
Triple H vs Ric Flair (Late 2005 feud)

Memories

Crowbar winning the WCW Hardcore Championship (2000?)

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 02:07 PM

Is CSL really on board for this? If so, I'm totally in.

James Steele 06-21-2013 02:13 PM

Yes. CSL is a man of the people and will pleasure us with his opinions.

Anybody Thrilla 06-21-2013 02:18 PM

Match
Shawn Michaels v. The British Bulldog for the Intercontinental title @ SNME in 1992

Moment
Hawk falls off the Titan Tron

Memory
Earthquake kills Damien

Hanso Amore 06-21-2013 02:30 PM

I dont understand what is different in Moment and Memory...

MoFo 06-21-2013 02:31 PM

Match - Elimination Chamber, Summerslam 2003 (Goldberg Smash!)

Moment - Jake Roberts returns to Raw (7:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthYkUWseEI

VSG 06-21-2013 02:43 PM

lol CSL will never judge everything posted.

James Steele 06-21-2013 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 4229772)
I dont understand what is different in Moment and Memory...

Moment - Something you vividly remember and the time/place
Memory - Something you remember, but it might be a bit foggy or you're off on specific date/time/event/etc.

James Steele 06-21-2013 03:24 PM

Plus, it is good alliteration.

CSL 06-21-2013 04:17 PM

I WILL DO IT

CSL 06-21-2013 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VSG (Post 4229778)
lol CSL will never judge everything posted.

going to do it now just to PROVE YOU WRONG

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James Steele 06-21-2013 04:24 PM

In honor of CSL, I present to you the official theme song of this thread:

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CSL 06-21-2013 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229758)
Triple H returns at MSG - 2001

GOLD. Homeboy was the best wrestler on earth from pretty much the moment Austin had his surgery onwards, probably hasn't been a more credible heel world champion since with mayyybe the exception of Brock. Deserved every bit of the reaction he got.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229758)
Ric Flair's Promo on Triple H before their world title match - 2002

G-onna need a video of this. If not, it's Flair cutting a promo so it's probably GOLD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229758)
Triple H vs Ric Flair (Late 2005 feud)

only one I remember off the top of my head is the PPV cage match. In which case it's gotta be GOLD. Always enjoyed Triple H and Flair against each other, simple matches with simple stories that pull the crowd in, perfect timing, Trips always going out of his way to make Flair look good and Flair being Flair. Flair went over clean and decisively (by cage match standards) in the one I'm thinking of too, which was a nice surprise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229758)
Crowbar winning the WCW Hardcore Championship

don't recall the specific match/finish etc, my brain has probably blocked a lot of WCW from around that time out as self preservation. But Crowbar was meh, Reno was meh (except Roll the Dice, which was immense) so I guess I'd have to go GASH.

James Steele 06-21-2013 05:05 PM

God, I loved this whole one-night storyline. Austin forced HHH to defend the title against a former world champion of his choice. HHH picks Flair and expects him to lay down. They have HBK and others talk to him. Flair then cuts this epic promo on HHH saying he is getting Flair's best tonight. Then, they put on an awesome match where I seriously thought Ric Flair was going to once again become the heavyweight champion of the world.

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James Steele 06-21-2013 05:16 PM

Seriously, Jim Ross being at his best and the storyline and the emotion of the whole night gets my heart racing just thinking about it. I still think they probably should have given Flair the belt that night.

mike adamle 06-21-2013 05:44 PM

Thought the cage match was awesome and that the last man standing match the next ppv was a 5 star classic

CSL 06-21-2013 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4229758)
Ric Flair's Promo on Triple H before their world title match - 2002

I enjoyed the promo. It's not quite "classic Flair" but it's better than most. GOLD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4229767)
Shawn Michaels v. The British Bulldog for the Intercontinental title @ SNME in 1992

beyond GOLD. Was a huge HBK fan from almost day one (obligatory "worship Hogan" phase)/started to really favour the heels just as HBK was getting that initial singles push. Remember reading about it in WWF magazine whilst standing in a shop and being happy as a bastard. "Enjoyable match", creative finish that advanced/didn't harm either guy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4229767)
Hawk falls off the Titan Tron

probably have to say GASH. As daft and sometimes entertaining the "Hawk being pissed up" stuff was, after seeing the Road Warriors doc piece and knowing he was going through a really shit time whilst doing it/it being a bit too close to home and then his death being an indirect result of his "demons", it's just a bit ugly. That and Droz was a bit shit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4229767)
Earthquake kills Damien

what's not to love about this? Ridiculous looking 400lb heel fatty in an old school-cut singlet (and no kneepads) does that daft "Earthquake bouncing around the ring" gimmick before squashing a blokes pet snake whilst everybody plays it dead serious. And the kids ate it all up. It's glorious, it's the original "Bossman feeds Al Snow his dog". GOLD.

Innovator 06-21-2013 05:55 PM

WE'RE IN GREENVILLE SOUTH CAROLINA AND RIC FLAIRS GOT HIS GAME FACE ON

Theo Dious 06-21-2013 10:56 PM

Moment
Marty Janetty attempts to escape Shawn Michaels by diving through the barbershop window

Match
Ric Flair vs Mr Perfect - Monday Night Raw Loser Retires

Memory
Earthquake sits on Hulk Hogan, sidelining him for months and causing him to consider retirement

Bad News Gertner 06-21-2013 11:05 PM

Pretty much anything HHH related is dogshit

Hanso Amore 06-21-2013 11:40 PM

Match - Sting and Flair vs Muta and Funk in the Thunderdome - Still my all time favorite.

Moment - Buff Bagwell punches another in a long line of fake stings, only to have it be real sting. He then Drops Bagwell, takes of the Sting mask to reveal face paint, and clears the ring.

Memory - Can barely remember the match, but was a somewhat early ECW match where Saturn drops and elbow off the scaffold in a scaffold match to a guy in the ring. Biggest fucking spot I ever saw at that point and was one of my first ECW memories. I remember just being shocked and trying to explain how amazing it was to my friends. Woke up every saturday at 7AM to watch ECW from then on.

Corporate CockSnogger 06-22-2013 05:03 AM

Billy Gunn vs The Rock

whiteyford 06-22-2013 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hanso (Post 4229984)

Memory - Can barely remember the match, but was a somewhat early ECW match where Saturn drops and elbow off the scaffold in a scaffold match to a guy in the ring. Biggest fucking spot I ever saw at that point and was one of my first ECW memories. I remember just being shocked and trying to explain how amazing it was to my friends. Woke up every saturday at 7AM to watch ECW from then on.


It's on the ECW - Extreme Evolution dvd

Eliminators VS Terry Gordy & Steve Williams.
(This was possibly the weakest match on this DVD but it has it's moments as Saturn does a great elbow drop from a board near the ceiling used in scaffold matches.Also Dr Death Steve Williams gets powerbombed on the concrete floor.The match is from High Incident in October 1996)***

Corporate CockSnogger 06-22-2013 06:21 AM

Legit interested in CSL'a view on Daniel Bryan's first year in WWE.

CSL 06-22-2013 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 4229773)
Elimination Chamber, Summerslam 2003 (Goldberg Smash!)

solid GOLD right here. First time Goldberg was really booked to his strengths on a big scale in WWE and it showed, built towards his entry into the match and when it happened, the crowd ate up every second of it. Few guys ever have been capable of drawing that kind of reaction by doing a few moves and looking at the crowd and old Billy showed he was one of them right here. Gotta credit Triple H and Flair as well, the cowardly heel stuff and Goldberg getting them anyway was the perfect payoff. They made a mistake not putting the belt on him however, was definitely "the right time" as opposed to a month later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoFo (Post 4229773)
Jake Roberts returns to Raw (7:00) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hthYkUWseEI

have to say GOLD just for the spectacle of Jake being on TV, the reaction he got, how much it clearly meant to him etc. Unfortunately he looked like he'd been dragged to the show backwards, promo wasn't up to "Jake standards" but I'd rather it have happened than not, it accomplished what is was supposed to.

The Condor 06-22-2013 10:02 AM

match: 10 Man Tag Team match at Canadian Stampede '97. So much energy, so much story, just awesome.

Memory: Bret Harts profanity laced tirade on Raw after losing the title to Sid.

Moment: Don't ask me why but Marc Mero fucking up his knee on a drop to the outside sticks with me. Very Willis MaGahee in the way it bent.

Not a fan of Bret Hart but for whatever reason he is included in 2 of these

Hanso Amore 06-22-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4230055)
It's on the ECW - Extreme Evolution dvd

Eliminators VS Terry Gordy & Steve Williams.
(This was possibly the weakest match on this DVD but it has it's moments as Saturn does a great elbow drop from a board near the ceiling used in scaffold matches.Also Dr Death Steve Williams gets powerbombed on the concrete floor.The match is from High Incident in October 1996)***

Thats sounds right. Its often in many highlight films on ECW but just that moment sticks with me, nothing else about the match.

Anybody Thrilla 06-22-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Edgar (Post 4230083)
match: 10 Man Tag Team match at Canadian Stampede '97. So much energy, so much story, just awesome.

Memory: Bret Harts profanity laced tirade on Raw after losing the title to Sid.

Moment: Don't ask me why but Marc Mero fucking up his knee on a drop to the outside sticks with me. Very Willis MaGahee in the way it bent.

Not a fan of Bret Hart but for whatever reason he is included in 2 of these

Was it Marc Mero or Scott Putski?

CSL 06-22-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 4229976)
Marty Janetty attempts to escape Shawn Michaels by diving through the barbershop window

GOLD. Amazing launch pad for Michaels as a singles guy (and who knows, could have been great for Marty if he wasn't so "Marty") the fact people still reference and talk about it 21 years later says it all.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 4229976)
Ric Flair vs Mr Perfect - Monday Night Raw Loser Retires

I was never as big of a fan of this as anybody else. Love Flair, love Perfect, just feels like a really underwhelming exit for Flair and nothing was built on it for Hennig. But it was a different time back then, no PPV really close enough to build towards (I believe Flair wanted out asap so Mania was probs out of the question) The competitors and match itself definitely place it on the side of GOLD but it's not as overwhelming as anything involving these two should be.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tedious (Post 4229976)
Earthquake sits on Hulk Hogan, sidelining him for months and causing him to consider retirement

GOLD. If only for Hogan's twitchy leg sell. Not to mention the kids eating it up and those poor bastards that sent Hogan get well cards still receiving WWE catalogues in the mail. And the blow off match at Summerslam provided us with Hogan tearing Earl Hebner's shirt to pieces mid-match. That was different.

The Condor 06-22-2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4230111)
Was it Marc Mero or Scott Putski?

You may be right. For some reason I was thinking it was the "Wildman"

Anybody Thrilla 06-22-2013 12:16 PM

I believe it was Scott Putski in a match with Brian Christopher at some PPV somewhere. In Your House or something.

Anybody Thrilla 06-22-2013 12:18 PM

Ground Zero, turns out. The second clip here is a BRIEF shot of it.

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The Condor 06-22-2013 12:20 PM

That's it! Thanks, ABT. Still cringeworthy

Anybody Thrilla 06-22-2013 12:22 PM

Yeah, that was gross.

Bad News Gertner 06-22-2013 01:34 PM

Match: RVD and Sabu vs Hayabusa and Jinsei Shinzaki at Heatwave. Fav match ever.

Moment: Heyman tells A.P.A that only Simmons is fired and Bradshaw isn't. JBL begins.

Memory: anybody remember an angle where Hugh Morrus's dad would all of a sudden walk down the aisle confused during his matches?

Skippord 06-22-2013 01:49 PM

I don't remember it, but I can't think of a reason that WCW would be like "It'd be rad if Hugh Morrus' dad walked in the aisle looking confused during his matches". Clearly that is what killed WCW

Bad News Gertner 06-22-2013 01:52 PM

It was very very weird. As usual, nothing came of it.

Skippord 06-22-2013 01:59 PM

I do wonder what Hugh Morrus' dad looks like now, which may have been their endgame I guess.

Bad News Gertner 06-22-2013 02:03 PM

Ok I wasn't making this up:
During a match this Hennig some old guy walks down the ramp in a hospital gown. Morrus calls him "pops" and escorts him back up the ramp. Morrus slams Hennig and his "pops" comes back down and Morrus goes back outside the ring. Hennig wins with a Hennigplex.
Pops comes down to console Morrus and mimics him.

This occured on the December 20th 1999 Nitro so this has Russo's fingers all over it.

Skippord 06-22-2013 02:05 PM

that seems like an Ed Ferrera idea to me


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