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Savio 07-01-2013 11:31 AM

Who do you think the Wellness Policy has "screwed" over the most?
 
RVD? Kennedy? Orton?

(Not saying the Wellness Policy is bad)

Swiss Ultimate 07-01-2013 01:03 PM

Chris Benoit.

seapig4 07-01-2013 01:04 PM

William Regal

DrCrawford 07-01-2013 03:00 PM

Benoit

people using drugs screwed themselves over.

mike adamle 07-01-2013 07:28 PM

Chris Masters

Tom Guycott 07-01-2013 10:01 PM

I agree with Adamle.

I'm not even a fan of Chris Masters, but you have to feel a bit sorry for a guy who was hired simply because he looked impressive with a body attained because he was clearly on the gas, then got in trouble for being juiced, then kicked to he curb because that physique diminished. WWE had an unrealistic expectation for Chris, and wasn't some politick play by another wrestler or him being strung out on something illict or simply refusing to stop smoking weed. They put him in the akward spot of rewarding AND punishing him for exactly the same behavior.

Juan 07-01-2013 10:43 PM

Might just be me, but I think Chris Masters' biggest problem is that he sucked.

Kane Knight 07-02-2013 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrCrawford (Post 4234646)
Benoit

people using drugs screwed themselves over.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...T-1024x768.jpg

Tom Guycott 07-02-2013 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 4235111)
Might just be me, but I think Chris Masters' biggest problem is that he sucked.

Yes. I wholeheartedly agree that he sucked. Had he not "looked the shit", he may well have never been hired to begin with. But that he was immersed in a culture that he wouldn't have had the shot to begin with if he looked like he did on his "comeback", even though he was still in really good shape. WWE has a history of going after tall people with a cometitve bodybuilder look and immediately pushing them. Add to that the fact his whole gimmick hinged upon him looking like a roided up freak. Yes, there's a point of personal responsibity, but there's also being set up to fail.

Its like hiring a theif to steal things, then firing him because he's a thief.

Razzamajazz 07-02-2013 09:55 PM

the fans

Kane Knight 07-03-2013 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4235295)
Yes. I wholeheartedly agree that he sucked. Had he not "looked the shit", he may well have never been hired to begin with. But that he was immersed in a culture that he wouldn't have had the shot to begin with if he looked like he did on his "comeback", even though he was still in really good shape. WWE has a history of going after tall people with a cometitve bodybuilder look and immediately pushing them. Add to that the fact his whole gimmick hinged upon him looking like a roided up freak. Yes, there's a point of personal responsibity, but there's also being set up to fail.

Its like hiring a theif to steal things, then firing him because he's a thief.

WWE likes the pretense that they are a legitimate business that wouldn't think about breaking the law. They're like the mob, but with fewer drive-by shootings.

I'm betting WWE goes so far as to encourage steroid abuse in more active ways. I'm betting part of the lecture includes "don't get caught." It's not the thieving that they have the problem with, but the thieves getting caught. After all, they have to pretend for the investors (and Congress).

Juan 07-03-2013 12:56 AM

Kane Knight's got it all figured out, man.

Tom Guycott 07-03-2013 11:15 PM

He's a bad enough dude.

Kane Knight 07-03-2013 11:33 PM

Mr T?

Swiss Ultimate 07-04-2013 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juan (Post 4235823)
Kane Knight's got it all figured out, man.

If by it you mean not having a job.

Tom Guycott 07-05-2013 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 4236358)
Mr T?

Really? You set it up with the arcade screenshot, and don't even see it?

http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/...8124205068.pnghttp://gamecola.net/wp-content/uploa...ude_arcade.jpg

Kane Knight 07-05-2013 03:23 AM

Huh?

Tom Guycott 07-07-2013 01:25 AM

So far, it looks like the list is comprised of Chris Masters and Ricardo Rodriguez.

Kane Knight 07-07-2013 10:52 AM

List of Bad Dudes?

Schlomey 07-07-2013 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seapig4 (Post 4234586)
William Regal

this.

Tom Guycott 07-07-2013 11:54 PM

Not really. WWE Wellness didn't fail William Regal, William Regal failed us. He was poised to be the biggest thing in the company, and be it insecurity or self-sabotage, he fucked that up.

How nobody has sympathy for the likes of RVD or TBK being depushed because of liking the weed, but a guy who was doing something he clearly didn't need to to get ahead warrants our tears baffles me.

I'm a big fan of Regal too, but he brought that on himself. He even admitted as much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane Knight (Post 4238741)
List of Bad Dudes?

Yes, KK. List of Bad Dudes.

Kane Knight 07-08-2013 11:01 AM

Considering how many people have been found to be on steroids, can we really blame Regal?

Well, we can. Let me rephrase that.

Since steroid use is so ubiquitous we had dudes like the Hurricane and half of KaienTai on them, is it really that rageworthy that Regal was on them, too?

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-09-2013 01:57 AM

Steroid providers/drug dealers?

poopfromweiner dude 07-11-2013 03:04 AM

lol definitely masters and regal great discussion guys :y:

poopfromweiner dude 07-11-2013 03:21 AM

Oh yeah I forgot about mr. Kenn Kennedy

poopfromweiner dude 07-11-2013 03:22 AM

...KENNEDY!

poopfromweiner dude 07-11-2013 03:22 AM

:lol: it never gets old

ron the dial 07-11-2013 09:40 AM

:rofl:

SlickyTrickyDamon 07-11-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4240612)
Steroid providers/drug dealers?

I touched a nerve with Flashlight. Gave me a neg rep for this. :$

Tom Guycott 07-12-2013 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashlight (Post 4242758)
...KENNEDY!

I thought he was railroaded out because he was "STUPID!!!" and an "injury prone botch machine" according to a Randy Orton who had way more clout back then?

Kane Knight 07-13-2013 11:39 PM

Two for one
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashlight (Post 4242757)
Oh yeah I forgot about mr. Kenn Kennedy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4244379)
I thought he was railroaded out because he was "STUPID!!!" and an "injury prone botch machine" according to a Randy Orton who had way more clout back then?


How was he supposed to know his doctor was a quack?

Curtis Anderson 08-06-2013 04:42 AM

http://pix.posterrevolution.com/pr/4/629948m.jpg

Fignuts 08-09-2013 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4239465)
Not really. WWE Wellness didn't fail William Regal, William Regal failed us. He was poised to be the biggest thing in the company, and be it insecurity or self-sabotage, he fucked that up.

How nobody has sympathy for the likes of RVD or TBK being depushed because of liking the weed, but a guy who was doing something he clearly didn't need to to get ahead warrants our tears baffles me.

I'm a big fan of Regal too, but he brought that on himself. He even admitted as much.



Yes, KK. List of Bad Dudes.

Regal's situation was complicated. It's in one of the Regal threads a while back.

Fignuts 08-09-2013 01:29 AM

http://www.tpwwforums.com/showthread...ighlight=Regal

Read my post in that thread.

Kane Knight 08-10-2013 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curtis Anderson (Post 4264837)

Their pizza delivery guy was a quack.

Volare 08-17-2013 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Guycott (Post 4237086)
Really? You set it up with the arcade screenshot, and don't even see it?

http://www.arcade-museum.com/images/...8124205068.pnghttp://gamecola.net/wp-content/uploa...ude_arcade.jpg

One of the greatest games ever!

glanville6 08-17-2013 09:44 AM

Evan Bourne. Remember him?

Evil Vito 08-17-2013 11:14 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Masters was so much better in his 2009-11 run with the company. Was constantly churning out really good matches on Superstars.</font>

Rollermacka 08-18-2013 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curtis Anderson (Post 4264837)

So is that why we have so many obese children in America now?

Razzamajazz 08-18-2013 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razzamajazz (Post 4235719)
the fans



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