Is TNA the dumbest 'worldwide' wrestling company ever?
 

Outdated rasslers and MMA stars.

#Buyrates

WCW post early 1998 was worse

KISS and Megadeth playing mid Nitro, not telling the cable companies that Halloween Havoc was going to run late ahead of time, advertising this weeks Nitro on a Wednesday in a newspaper, hiring Russo and Ferrera, giving $250,000 contract to Leapin Lanny Poffo and then not use him once. I could go on.

To be fair to them, they haven't been able to compete with WWE when offering a similar product. So while as mostly wrestling fans, people here might not like the mma guys coming in, but as a company they need to think outside the box and draw fans from elsewhere. It might not be this, there might not be anything that can get them on a level I compete, but at least they're trying something rather than just accepting being a pound/dollar store version of WWE.

Plus the rumour is that it's not even TNA bringing the MMA people in, but Spike wanting them and paying their wage to get some more promotion for their MMA show.

Tito's been cutting wrestling promos most of his career so it might not be that bad depending on what he does/what hes allowed to do in the ring.

Still a bit of a waste since they have to disappear and train for fights regardless though.

They're being dumb by not having Jeff Jarrett on tv anymore though.

He'll reappear during the Tito/Rampage fight and lay them out with his guitar while screaming slapnuts.

Yes, yes they are.

Viacom owns Bellator and of course Spike. I think the addition of MMA fighters is something that is being pushed onto TNA in order to help Bellator more than Impact Wrestling. I truly believe Dixie's hands are tied on that matter.

Yeah I dunno, some of WCW's worst I think is worse than TNA. That being said, pretty god-awful.

I mostly agree but WCW had 3 Count so that makes them better than TNA

3 Count were amazing

WCW and its not even close. That stuff was just God awful but so much so that watching it now is perversely entertaining. TNA is just stupid, but they have a decent in ring product and have had some good feuds. Honestly, the Jarrett/Angle feud might be one of my all time favorites. But this stuff isn't going to help them. MMA fans are not, and will not become, wrestling fans. Different people, different products, different mind sets. This new deal is a misfire.

CHW is pretty bad, No ERAG matches.

It has to count for something that TNA has hired most of the people who helped WCW get into the way it was.

Yeah, every WCW fan at my school started watching WWE only except for flipping to WCW during commercials after Spring Stampede 1998.

I get the impression that WCW's USA Today and business card errors were because too many people were officially responsible, whereas TNA's mistakes with the licenses and distribution channels were because the people who should have been responsible had been fired or laid off without anyone picking up the slack.

In terms of WCW's entire history vs. TNA's entire history, I'd say TNA is worse because they haven't had ratings or buy rates peak even close to WCW's.

If any of you actually decided to watch TNA instead of shit on it every single day, you might enjoy it. I know I do. It's the weirdest thing. Somebody just decided to write it off forever and now everyone is missing out because of it.

I enjoy TNA a lot, probably more than most, but they do a ton of dumb shit. Tito being just the latest example.

Yeah. They do. So does WWE. They are are just so big at this point that they can succeed despite their awful decision making.

A lot of my problems with TNA are how the company is run. It is baffling. On screen, the guys work hard and it shows.

I watch them as if they are a parody show, like The Office or Phoneshop, but about wrestling.

TNA's alright. I watch it when I can, and try to catch all of their PPV's. I only have two major problems with the company; too much Hogan, and people turn face or heel way too much. I don't know if it happens on the shows I miss, or just randomly happens for the sake of it, but every time I watch it someone has turned. Fucking annoying to keep track of. :mad:

I started to get back in to it because of the podcast, but then I fell weeks behind, never caught up, and haven't started again.

Everytime I decide to 'give them a chance' they just fuck it up.

Ex: Austin Aries is champ, cool. Aces & Eights, lame.

TNA has spent far too much of it's existence reliant on wrestlers who were big deals in other companies (add MMA fighters to that list now) rather than establish and create their own big name stars. WCW had Sting, Flair, Luger and others who were legit big stars that made a name for themselves in WCW and could sell-out 20,000 seat arenas. TNA does not do that. ECW had their own big name stars and a cult following, and while not selling out 20,000 seat arenas they were presenting a product that was very, very different from WWF or WCW. TNA does not do that. That is where the perception comes from, at least for me.

And that whole 'WTF is Dixie Carter thinking' question that pops up every several months when she does something that seems odd or some bizarre newz story breaks.

I just can't get into TNA, I have tried countless times. maybe if it was on Tuesdays.

Leaning towards yes but they haven't reached late WCW in terms of overall awfulness and dumbness.

Their management might be worse though considering its a mix of people who helped kill off WCW or just follow the same dumb mistakes WCW did. As well as having the idea that ppvs should be used to build tv shows instead of the other way around.

Last night's reveal basically followed the same pattern of almost every big surprise from TNA in either being executed badly or just as a huge disappointment.

Dennis Stamp could sure as fuck be using this time right now!

If only he was booked!

I used to watch TNA fairly regularly a few years back when the Knockouts division was doing well, but I've refused to watch any of it since they screwed over Daffney.
That said, even back then I was turned off of the product by their schizophrenic booking, and once Bischoff and Hogan took over I knew it was only going to get worse.

So yeah, TNA is pretty stupid.

I can't stand TNA. It is watch WCW post 1998 all over again. I mean really, same announcers, same stage, same ring, same titantron. Same lame ass ring announcer. Same people running the show. Look I grew-up a Hogan fan, but without Vince McMahon he's shit!! He had success for 2 years of his life in WCW with the nWo without Vince, other than that Hulk's no promoter/manager. He's a wrestler.

For the first time EVER!!! I was intregued by the whole August1 deal. TNA fucked that up as well. What will they do when Angle, and Sting finally retire? Still have Hogan - Flair matches till they fucking die in the ring?

Yeah that's the thing, every time I watch it I can't fault the matches, amazing roster, but it's the rest of it that kills any interest I had.

Almost none of this is true but you aren't the only one to think any of this. TNA gets sweepingly generalized all the time. Hogan does not wrestle and he is basically kept in a role that is suited for his talents. Mike Tenay is the only color commentator left from WCW and he's really good. Tenay/Taz and Tenay/Borasch are solid color teams. The ring announcer is Christie Hemme, who was not from WCW. I can't even begin to dissect your rant on Hogan not being successful without Vince because I wouldn't even know where to start. I don't even know what "same ring" even means.

And the same people aren't really running the show. The show is booked by a number of different people and Hogan has a fairly limited role. TNA really isn't even close to what WCW was. WCW turned into a bunch of old dogs afraid of new talent and petrified of losing their spot. TNA isn't really like that in any capacity.

And don't get me wrong. TNA makes some fucking horrific booking decisions sometimes but WWE makes decisions that are just as stupid all the time. It's just that everybody is already drinking WWE Kool-aid so they are more likely to forgive.

i've found that when i'm half drunk impact is a great show

What about when you are full drunk? Or like one quarter drunk?

Two thirds drunk?

it has to be exactly half. i've got it down to a science

I've said plenty of times recently that TNA has been better and much less ridiculous booking-wise than WWE. WWE can just afford to half-ass (at best) storylines and be shit whenever it wants because it's WWE and like Narc said, people will reason it away much easier than with TNA. They have actually been on a good path over the past few weeks however.