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slik 08-10-2013 09:04 PM

Alice Cooper or Black Sabbath - which is the bigger deal
 
which of those two is a bigger deal/more important and more importantly, has the darkest material (in terms of theme and song narratives)

need to know for halloween theme park events purposes

Kris P Lettus 08-10-2013 09:23 PM

Sabbath

The Condor 08-10-2013 09:37 PM

Sabbath answers the question but I like Alice Cooper a lot as well.

slik 08-10-2013 09:37 PM

Thanks!

Curd 08-10-2013 10:39 PM

"Welcome to my Nightmare" is supposed to be one of Cooper's scarier songs, but it sounds perfectly acceptable as a soft rock piece. The music video for it is more sexually suggestive than scary, as is Alice's intent.

Black Sabbath has been about moping more than about sex, and their scary material ranges from the trip to hell simulation song "Black Sabbath" to the apparently satanic "NIB II" and with a largely forgotten 1990 album Headless Cross. They don't rival death and black metal bands like Venom for scariness but are just commercial enough to have been on many radio stations.

Skippord 08-10-2013 10:41 PM

Alice Cooper's way cooler

Curd 08-10-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skippord (Post 4269259)
Alice Cooper's way cooler

The sex and campiness do lend itself to the cool factor. Would you say Black Sabbath has a gloomier sound as is appropriate for a scary haunted attraction?

Heisenberg 08-10-2013 11:16 PM

Alice Cooper made his return to relevance in a cameo for some Johnny Depp oh look at me so dark with vampires and piss film. Black Sabbath has some identity crisis and stuff, go with Cooper for relevant reasons.

Music wise, I'd Rob Zombie the joint up

slik 08-10-2013 11:35 PM

Thanks for the opinions.

The reason I wanted to know is kind of lame. I'm a haunted house nut and every year Universal Studios does a handful of haunted houses. The last two years one of those has been Alice Cooper based (2011 - Alice Cooper's Welcome To My Nightmare and 2012 - Alice Cooper Goes to Hell). This year it looks like they won't be doing an Alice Cooper themed haunt as they just announced a haunt called Black Sabbath: 13.

This haunted house message board I was reading had a lot of folks going on about how Ozzy's stuff wouldn't be as dark and cool as Cooper's so I was curious.

Disturbed316 08-12-2013 03:10 AM

If it's based on Sabbath I imagine it would be awesome.

road doggy dogg 08-12-2013 08:21 AM

I dislike Black Sabbath. They are a "bigger deal" than Alice Cooper though, I reckon.
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Kris P Lettus 08-12-2013 08:52 AM

You shall all be stricken to Heaven for yr mockery of Sabbath

Blonde Moment 08-12-2013 08:55 AM

Sabbath would probably be a better idea provided the people involved actually knew what Black Sabbath was about

dronepool 08-12-2013 01:15 PM

Alice Cooper took rock shows and themes to a new level, Sabbath had that gloomy doomy sound, Cooper was more rock n roll and was one of the first bands to bring 'horror' themes into rock in a different way from Sabbath.

They're pretty equal.

whiteyford 08-12-2013 02:15 PM

Sabbath > Alice

ron the dial 08-12-2013 02:21 PM

alice cooper's sound does very little to match the image he projects. remember being so disappointed the first time i actually gave him a listen. i'll take sabbath any day.

whiteyford 08-12-2013 02:29 PM

Grew up listening to both but always dug Sabbath more, until Dio left then kinda meh.

The Condor 08-13-2013 12:28 PM

DIO \m/

Kris P Lettus 08-13-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ron the dial (Post 4270533)
alice cooper's sound does very little to match the image he projects. remember being so disappointed the first time i actually gave him a listen. i'll take sabbath any day.

This

Sixx 08-16-2013 12:55 PM

Classic Black Sabbath seems to be the "more important" of the two. Alice Cooper has always been one of my favourites, but I guess Sabbath was more inspiring to other bands or whatever.

When it comes to Sabbath, I'm not super into their stuff with Ozzy (however classic it may be), I prefer Sabbath with Dio and Ozzy solo.

dronepool 08-16-2013 01:34 PM

I like this thread.

Schlomey 08-16-2013 03:19 PM

Early Sabbath is hard to top. As a "career" I'd say Cooper by a landslide. He's stayed awesome and relevant for over 3 decades...I'm partial as Alice Cooper is one of my idols.

dronepool 08-16-2013 10:16 PM

Alice's stage show d. Black Sabbath (and many bands)


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