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road doggy dogg 08-22-2013 02:43 PM

Triple H interview on Grantland
 
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/...ficer-triple-h

Pretty great read. Touches on a lot of topics. I'm not gonna add my thoughts, just wanted to share with people who are interested in this kinda thing

road doggy dogg 08-22-2013 02:49 PM

Was gonna copy/paste it but a lot of information is in the footnotes so it's best to just click the link

Savio 08-22-2013 03:01 PM

Can we lock this? #Hating

road doggy dogg 08-22-2013 03:04 PM

was it posted before, I DON'T FOLLOW WRESTLING FORUM

Wehttam 08-22-2013 03:16 PM

i liked it

thank you

ron the dial 08-22-2013 03:18 PM

good read. i particularly enjoyed the devlopmental bits.

Savio 08-22-2013 03:23 PM

I was being a hater :) I also liked the read too, like hearing backstage stories of wrestlers.

VSG 08-22-2013 03:41 PM

Great read, thanks for sharing.

Cuse8 08-22-2013 05:21 PM

great read.. real honest approach

McLegend 08-22-2013 07:18 PM

That's interesting, but is it me or does HHH always take shots at Mick Foley in interviews?

Razzamajazz 08-22-2013 07:23 PM

if there's one thing i learned from reading this, it's that wwe is making another leprechaun sequel starring hornswoggle :wtf:

Fignuts 08-22-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McLegend (Post 4285663)
That's interesting, but is it me or does HHH always take shots at Mick Foley in interviews?

I don't think that was a shot. He said Foley himself stated those matches weren't great.

Emperor Smeat 08-22-2013 11:31 PM

Really good read. The greatest thing he's done so far with his backstage role has been being hands-on with the NXT stuff mainly because he realized its a lot better to build for the future than to have to scramble at the last moment and hope something sticks enough to start a new era.

Probably fibbed a bit in regards to the section about wrestler inputs and being competitive with other wrestlers considering the way he says it, he rarely complains or puts himself over on purpose when there is a lot of actual evidence of the opposite being true.

James Steele 08-22-2013 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4285853)
Really good read.

Probably fibbed a bit in regards to the section about wrestler inputs and being competitive with other wrestlers considering the way he says it, he rarely complains or puts himself over on purpose when there is a lot of actual evidence of the opposite being true.



Oh, fuck off. What actual evidence is there other than pure smark bitterness because Mr. flavor of the month didn't beat him in 5 minutes?

ron the dial 08-22-2013 11:44 PM

settle down buddy

Emperor Smeat 08-22-2013 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4285857)
Oh, fuck off. What actual evidence is there other than pure smark bitterness because Mr. flavor of the month didn't beat him in 5 minutes?

Mostly from a few former writers who worked with him in the past or got his input when he looked over storyline ideas and scripts.

James Steele 08-22-2013 11:52 PM

Bitter ex-employees are beacons of truth. :roll:

road doggy dogg 08-22-2013 11:56 PM

Realistically, the truth is probably somewhere between the two. Nobody is going to want to go on record to trash their own credibility in a position they are currently holding so yeah he prolly bent the truth a bit. On the other hand, some has-been over-the-hill wrestler who may be bitter over the way his career has gone, yeah no doubt he has a skewed perception. I'm inclined to err closer to Triple H's side of the story. There's so many things we as (internet) fans think we fully know that are honestly all just heresy.

Wake Up Call 08-23-2013 12:10 AM

He will make a fine CEO one day.

This guy knows the business inside and out, and I have no doubt the WWE will thrive. The Performence Centre was a great idea, and the future will be bright.

ron the dial 08-23-2013 12:23 AM

that's what really excites me. you can see the passion and dedication he has to developing new talent. and it's really shown over the last few years. there have been hits and misses, obviously, but the effort is really quite impressive. that NXT is one of my highlights in each week's wrestling output says an awful lot about the direction the company is headed.

ron the dial 08-23-2013 12:24 AM

they just need to get creative to keep their heads out of their asses a bit more often on the main shows.

DaveWadding 08-23-2013 01:32 AM

I dunno about anyone else, but I think most of the footnotes are hilarious, having to explain stuff that we all know. Forget sometimes that some person who has never watched a WWE show in their life might actually read that :$

Cool King 08-23-2013 01:40 AM

Yeah, I was reading the replies here and I was thinking "Nobody is mentioning the footnotes?".

They're quite amusing. Especially this one....

"Paul Heyman, former ECW owner and current evil manager in WWE."

I don't know why, but "evil manager" makes me chuckle.

road doggy dogg 08-23-2013 09:15 AM

Yeah the site is primarily a sports (typically the "big four" but there are articles on golf/tennis/etc, and this author, "The Masked Man" writes a wrestling piece usually once a week or so) site and pop culture, so wrestling isn't the primary focus. Gotta put things in layman terms sometimes. Plus Bill Simmons is amazeballs.

Innovator 08-23-2013 10:24 AM

I loved when Simmons said they had the interview coming up on his Cousin Sal podcast, saying how the interview took place while Simmons was drinking a Perrier and eating a super salad in front of Triple H.

road doggy dogg 08-23-2013 10:27 AM

Damn I missed that one. I usually only listen to the BS Report during NFL season for guess the lines :o Might have to give it a listen on my drive home this weekend

Savio 08-23-2013 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4285857)
Oh, fuck off. What actual evidence is there other than pure smark bitterness because Mr. flavor of the month didn't beat him in 5 minutes?

HHH was in nearly all WHC matches from 9-02-02 to June 2005

road doggy dogg 08-23-2013 11:42 AM

To be fair, HHH has consistently been one of the best main event performers over the past decade or so, so it's not like he was unfairly put in that scene.

Savio 08-23-2013 01:11 PM

By 2004 I was dying for something different

Theo Dious 08-23-2013 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 4286230)
HHH was in nearly all WHC matches from 9-02-02 to June 2005

And this proves what? As if there was a surplus of main event talent in that area? Yeah RVD vs Scott Steiner would have been a fabulous main event program.

Savio 08-24-2013 12:07 PM

Like WWE didn't have a shit ton of main eventers in 2003, what are you thinking?

road doggy dogg 08-24-2013 12:25 PM

Go on then, list them all and how they were all so much more viable than HHH at the time.
crossrine

Savio 08-24-2013 12:32 PM

Can I just post the Smackdown HCTP Roster?

Are you saying we couldn't have WHC matches with

HBK/RVD
HBK/Kurt Angle
HBK/Big Show
HBK/Hogan
HBK/Rock
HBK/Cena
HBK/Anyone :shifty:

To say there weren't other wrestlers in 2003-2004 who could main event during those years is downright wrong.

Heyman 08-24-2013 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Savior (Post 4287241)
Like WWE didn't have a shit ton of main eventers in 2003, what are you thinking?

As successful as guys like Lesnar, Orton, Angle, and Eddie Guerrero were, I think the WWE made mistakes with these guys by turning them face *way* too soon instead of letting them remain heel and having the fans cheer on their characters anyways (I.e like they did with Austin in 1997 and Rocky in 1998). CM Punk might belong on this list now as well.......and Dolph Ziggler might be headed in this direction as well.

That seems to be more of a reflection of the writers than of Triple H politicking however.

I will say this though: I think guys like Jericho, Orton, and RVD were unfortunately, buried by Triple H in their primes. No proof, but call it a gut feeling.

road doggy dogg 08-24-2013 12:39 PM

You just listed a bunch of guys who DID main event during those years, plus RVD who should never be in this discussion. What's your point?
crossrine

ron the dial 08-24-2013 12:44 PM

RVD should always be in this discussion.

Heyman 08-24-2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4287266)
You just listed a bunch of guys who DID main event during those years, plus RVD who should never be in this discussion. What's your point?
crossrine

My point is that they main-evented......and enjoyed some solid success, but could have been much bigger than they turned out. Most of it due to bad writing.....which may or may not have been Triple H related.

In the cases of guys like Lesnar, Angle, Orton, Guerrero, etc, I think bad writing (I.e. turning them face too prematurely) hurt them long term.

Guys like Jericho and RVD in their primes (2000-2001) could have really benefited from clean victories over a guy like Triple H, but it never happened. And no - Jericho "flukely" going over Austin and Rock on the same night doesn't count.

No way in hell Orton should have turned face after Summerslam 2004 and then jobbed the belt to Hunter a month later. IMO - that was the worst example of booking......that may have been Hunter related.

road doggy dogg 08-24-2013 12:53 PM

I was refering more to Savior's post.

Do agree with Orton though, felt like he was one of the few "young guys" that at the time seemed like he was ready to hang with the big boys and never really got the chance.
crossrine

Heyman 08-24-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4287276)
I was refering more to Savior's post.

Do agree with Orton though, felt like he was one of the few "young guys" that at the time seemed like he was ready to hang with the big boys and never really got the chance.
crossrine

Hopefully, the bigger reason as to why they stopped his push had more to do with his backstage conduct (I.e. him being a dick) rather than him just being overly buried.

Even aside from the 2004 debacle........the WWE actually did a tremendous job of rebuilding and rebranding Orton about 5 years later when Orton became leader of Legacy and faced Triple H in the main event at Mania.

But again - Orton.......who had TREMENDOUS momentum heading into the main event, was defeated by Triple H.

Shadrick 08-24-2013 02:39 PM

The E will be in great hands with Triple H.


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