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Evil Vito 11-09-2013 09:46 AM

Kassius Ohno released
 
<font color=goldenrod>From PWInsider:

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WWE released NXT star Kassius Ohno, aka Chris Hero, who has worked in main event level positions for Ring of Honor, Pro Wrestling NOAH, CHIKARA, IWA Mid-South and CZW, among other promotions all over the world, PWInsider.com has confirmed.



According to multiple sources, Ohno was released by WWE officials while waiting to begin training Friday morning at the Performance Center.



Ohno had just returned to WWE NXT after being held off of TV for some time. What will turn out to be his final appearance, a loss to The Wyatt Family's Luke Harper, aired this past Wednesday on NXT. He had been signed to WWE developmental in 2012.



Ohno, a Dayton, Ohio native, broke into the business in 1998 and was trained by a slew of excellent trainers, including Les Thatcher and Dory Funk Jr.



Similar to the career path that Daniel Bryan took, he traveled the world, most notable Germany, England and Australia, learning all sorts of different styles and adding them to his in-ring repertoire. I've always likened him to a young Barry Windham because of his tall frame and working ability.



Like a lot of other independent stars of the early 2000s, Hero made his name with a lot of travel, not just internationally but all over the United States, driving with a crew that included Antonio Cesaro (then Claudio Castagnoli) and the late Larry Sweeney, among others, and worked pretty much everywhere. He clicked in just about every major independent promotion of the era.



Hero originally built his name in Ian Rotten's IWA Mid-South, where he ended up having a great feud with CM Punk (as recounted on Punk's Best in the World DVD documentary) as well as a long run in CHIKARA, where he was a top name there as well as one half of the Kings of Wrestling tag team with Cesaro.



He soon made his way to CZW, where he worked as a top heel there and began working regularly for Pro Wrestling Guerrilla in California as well.



The one promotion Hero wasn't getting booked for was Ring of Honor, which was considered the top independent promotion in the landscape, so when he showed up as a mystery opponent representing CZW against then-ROH champion Bryan Danielson (aka Daniel Bryan), it was a huge, legitimate shock for that audience and helped kick off a CZW vs. ROH feud that drew great numbers for ROH as well as an audience that was as legitimately split down the middle as a New York Giants vs. Dallas Cowboys game.



Hero morphed into a regular member of the ROH roster, capturing their Tag belts with Cesaro, who he held a number of other tag straps with. He began training and wrestling for Pro Wrestling NOAH in Japan and did well there, including having the mate Mitsuharu Misawa "gift him" the roaring elbow, which Hero used even in WWE as a finish.



When Hero was signed in 2012, it seemed like just a matter of time before he joined Punk, Bryan and others on the main roster, but for some reason - whether it be politics or mistakes made, he never made it to the main roster. I don't even believe he was sent on the road for dark matches, which boggled my mind. His work in the ring was good. He had obviously, based on his last TV appearances, worked on his physique. He had a decent speaking ability and his charisma always sort of reminded me a quiet version of a young Mick Foley. As a heel, he portrayed a great d***. He knew all sorts of different styles and honestly, should have been training the talents he was instead training with in the Performance Center. All the elements were there, except, apparently, WWE didn't see it, so he begins a new chapter in his career, returning to the independents.


Note from Mike: This release will go down, to me, as one of those moments in history where you wonder what the hell went wrong, and how WWE couldn't see the potential in someone just about every independent promotion in the world will be scrambling to book once they read this. This is absolutely going to be a case where this, long term, will be WWE's loss.
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Theo Dious 11-09-2013 09:48 AM

Good. Sick of hearing about his stupid name having ass.

VSG 11-09-2013 09:50 AM

What the fuck

Corporate CockSnogger 11-09-2013 09:54 AM

He's the one who didn't want to put the effort in to get in shape, right? Not surprising.

Bad News Gertner 11-09-2013 10:00 AM

Nobody to blame but himself. I get he's a great worker but the WWE is a totally different ballgame. Being a "good worker" makes you a dime a dozen today. He didn't stand out and his look was awful.

Nark Order 11-09-2013 10:02 AM

Yeah. I guess. Sure seems like they pick and choose who this "you need to be in shape" rule applies to though.

whiteyford 11-09-2013 10:27 AM

He looked like he was on NXT though, not ripped but definitely an improved look.

Bad News Gertner 11-09-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4332222)
Yeah. I guess. Sure seems like they pick and choose who this "you need to be in shape" rule applies to though.

It's completely different if you're a "big guy" like Big Show and Kane.

Cool King 11-09-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vito Cruz (Post 4332217)
<font color=goldenrod>From PWInsider:
Quote:

Ohno, a Dayton, Ohio native, broke into the business in 1998 and was trained by a slew of excellent trainers, including Les Thatcher and Dory Funk Jr.



Similar to the career path that Daniel Bryan took, he traveled the world, most notable Germany, England and Australia, learning all sorts of different styles and adding them to his in-ring repertoire. I've always likened him to a young Barry Windham because of his tall frame and working ability.



Like a lot of other independent stars of the early 2000s, Hero made his name with a lot of travel, not just internationally but all over the United States, driving with a crew that included Antonio Cesaro (then Claudio Castagnoli) and the late Larry Sweeney, among others, and worked pretty much everywhere. He clicked in just about every major independent promotion of the era.



Hero originally built his name in Ian Rotten's IWA Mid-South, where he ended up having a great feud with CM Punk (as recounted on Punk's Best in the World DVD documentary) as well as a long run in CHIKARA, where he was a top name there as well as one half of the Kings of Wrestling tag team with Cesaro.



He soon made his way to CZW, where he worked as a top heel there and began working regularly for Pro Wrestling Guerrilla in California as well.



The one promotion Hero wasn't getting booked for was Ring of Honor, which was considered the top independent promotion in the landscape, so when he showed up as a mystery opponent representing CZW against then-ROH champion Bryan Danielson (aka Daniel Bryan), it was a huge, legitimate shock for that audience and helped kick off a CZW vs. ROH feud that drew great numbers for ROH as well as an audience that was as legitimately split down the middle as a New York Giants vs. Dallas Cowboys game.



Hero morphed into a regular member of the ROH roster, capturing their Tag belts with Cesaro, who he held a number of other tag straps with. He began training and wrestling for Pro Wrestling NOAH in Japan and did well there, including having the mate Mitsuharu Misawa "gift him" the roaring elbow, which Hero used even in WWE as a finish.
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Reading that, it sounds like he died.

Lock Jaw 11-09-2013 10:47 AM

Just his career!

Rollermacka 11-09-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4332222)
Yeah. I guess. Sure seems like they pick and choose who this "you need to be in shape" rule applies to though.

Hmm, have they asked other guys to get in shape and they didn't? I somewhat remember one of the reasons they didn't renew Big Show's contract in 2007 was because they told him to step it up both physically and in the ring and he didn't?

Lock Jaw 11-09-2013 10:57 AM

They should obviously hire Rollermacka to fill the empty spot, he gets hardcore in the gym.

Rollermacka 11-09-2013 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4332244)
They should obviously hire Rollermacka to fill the empty spot, he gets hardcore in the gym.

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They totally should, here's a recent match of mine from last weekend. I have been bulking up, my hardcoreness has been paying off

Bad News Gertner 11-09-2013 11:16 AM

Even Brodeus Clay lost some weight. Look at him on NXT and look at him now.

Ol Dirty Dastard 11-09-2013 11:25 AM

good match Macka, best one you've posted. Muchos improved

Vastardikai 11-09-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narcissus (Post 4332222)
Yeah. I guess. Sure seems like they pick and choose who this "you need to be in shape" rule applies to though.

It's one thing to be in WWE proper and they want you to be in shape and you have issues.

It's a whole different ballgame when you are in developmental and they want you to be in shape and you have issues. And let's not kid ourselves: NXT is developmental.

He should look at it like this: At least they aren't making him an effeminate gay guy because of his weight, like they did with Adrian Adonis.

Emperor Smeat 11-09-2013 01:41 PM

Not surprised.

Was stupid to waste his great chance at being promoted and then took too long to get back into WWE shape to the point the WWE was no longer interested in calling him up immediately.

James Steele 11-09-2013 02:05 PM

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8...2901h28m05.png

Curtis 11-09-2013 02:23 PM

http://oi44.tinypic.com/25q7tz9.jpg

Hanso Amore 11-09-2013 02:36 PM

LOL i love the write up saying this is the WWEs loss as he will get snapped up by indies.

The WWE prints money and Hero will be wrestling in front of 75 people a night.

BIG LOSS.

Hanso Amore 11-09-2013 02:37 PM

I mean for real, could that "report" involve more of Heros penis in that guys mouth?

James Steele 11-09-2013 02:52 PM

It honestly feels like the internet writers don't even try anymore. They just write "preaching to the choir" type newz/articles. I've thoroughly enjoyed the WWE product for quite awhile now. I honestly don't know what issues people have with the product other than the fact that the story isn't going exactly how they want it to.

Theo Dious 11-09-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 4332291)
I mean for real, could that "report" involve more of Heros penis in that guys mouth?

Best post in the entire history of things.

Tazz Dan 11-09-2013 07:59 PM

Kassius got released. Oh no!

Vastardikai 11-09-2013 09:19 PM

I almost want to post the Harper promo on Ohno here, as well.

Mr. Nerfect 11-09-2013 10:49 PM

It's a shame, since the dude is a fun worker and has got a personality somewhere there. I guess he just didn't want to play ball, and that's his choice at the end of the day. Maybe he can get himself into better shape and deliver some good matches that can get him another shot?

Vastardikai 11-09-2013 11:19 PM

I posted this on the PW Torch story about his release. It's kind of long and an elaboration of what was said here:

Quote:

I don't feel like this is an issue of WWE deliberately blowing an opportunity with a hot prospect. It's not even an issue of Vince and Hunter having a hard-on for big buff guys. The issue is this: His bosses asked him to shape up, and he didn't do it.

I was a supervisor at a fast food restaurant for a while. I had an employee who did good work, but had an issue with keeping his appearance up to snuff. Everyone, including the store manager told him to keep his pants at his waist, but he just wouldn't do it. Eventually, a customer complained about seeing his underwear. He got fired as a result of that complaint. His father called a few days later and asked me why he was no longer employed by us. I told him the truth, that a customer complained about his inability to wear his pants properly. He understood and agreed with our decision.

Like it or not, there's a lot that goes into Professional Wrestling/Sports Entertainment. One of those things is your appearance. He didn't even have to look like Batista. If he were built like a Forrest Griffin, people could buy it. Instead, at his worst, he looked like Forrest Griffin after a month long binge on Doritos. They asked him to go to the gym, and he didn't go.

This isn't a Daniel Bryan situation where in the heat of the moment you did something stupid, but have the drive. This isn't an Antonio Cesaro situation where in his excitement of hitting his goal he did something stupid, but have the drive and can prove that you learned from your mistake. You are on the brink of being at the pinnacle of this business: WWE Television. 100 guys would kill to be where you are. And, instead of doing what management asks to get you to that goal, you slack off. He isn't employed by WWE by his own doing, and I think he knows that. Or at the very least he should.

Sorry about the rant.

James Steele 11-09-2013 11:40 PM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ZR3f0P4g5t...3-billmain.JPG

Curd 11-09-2013 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4332225)
He looked like he was on NXT though, not ripped but definitely an improved look.

WWE should use CGI to morph physiques from where they are to where Vince and HHH want them to be. Then, each talent prints a photorealistic copy of that model and tapes it next to their posing mirror. If the talent doesn't have a full-length posing mirror, then that's already one strike. :)

Frank Drebin 11-09-2013 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gertner (Post 4332235)
It's completely different if you're a "big guy" like Big Show and Kane.

Usos?

James Steele 11-10-2013 12:00 AM

http://www.prowrestlingscoops.com/wp...ok-pic/001.jpg

Frank Drebin 11-10-2013 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tazz Dan (Post 4332356)
Kassius got released. Oh no!

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SlickyTrickyDamon 11-10-2013 01:19 AM

Not unexpected. Still sad. Hit the gym fatass.

Frank Drebin 11-10-2013 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Steele (Post 4332422)

Batista joins the cast on the next episode of Showtime's Gigolos.

Curd 11-10-2013 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Drebin (Post 4332419)
Usos?

I'm sure Kassius Ohno would have been fine-o had he been a Samoan...

...Because except for the Rock, being tubby is part of the Samoan gimmick.

Vastardikai 11-10-2013 03:35 AM

Now is a good time to point out that Reigns is Samoan, as well.

VSG 11-10-2013 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4332436)
Not unexpected. Still sad. Hit the gym fatass.

:|

Hanso Amore 11-10-2013 09:24 AM

To be fair, look at the usos mom and dad. The fact that they can sit in a single seat when flying means they must be hitting the cardio hard.

Hanso Amore 11-10-2013 09:30 AM

But in an honest response, The Usos dont need to have a physique.

Lets be real - In the WWE you need to be a unique, larger than life character. You need something that sets you apart.

The Usos as SAMOAN.....TWINS......FROM A LEGENDARY FAMILY. How many of those are kicking around? they are super unique and that makes them "marketable".

What about Ohno? Hes a White guy with a Hobo beard that can work a good match.

How many of those are around these days? Tons. If you think ring work is enough in todays WWE to set him apart, then you are silly.

You cant be a Homeless Indy Wrestler who looks like shit when the Main event features a jacked up Homeless indy Wrestler.

Swiss Ultimate 11-10-2013 01:20 PM

Chris Hobo


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