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NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 04:26 PM

when was the last true work?
 
I ask because I can't recall so I bring it to you true geniuses.

in the PG era (and by PG I mean really bad writing& creative not the lack of bad words) has there ever been a legit work that threw the majority of people for a loop?

with everyone hollering that DB not in the main event is a work, that CM Punk taking his ball and going home is a work I'm asking if those people just have absolute blinders on to reality or if they honestly feel based on recent history that the top brass is capable of pulling off a work?

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 04:50 PM

Eddie Guerrero's death is a work.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 04:58 PM

maybe at 14,000 posts you can start being serious and on topic, maybe

VSG 01-30-2014 05:03 PM

lol

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NormanSmiley (Post 4370581)
maybe at 14,000 posts you can start being serious and on topic, maybe

Maybe at 500 posts you'll understand how this place works.

Swiss Ultimate 01-30-2014 05:17 PM

BOOYAH! You tell him, Tazz.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 05:18 PM

I know fuck me right? looking to talk the business and analysis with other like minded people instead of fag jokes and high school sarcasm

CSL 01-30-2014 05:18 PM

pro wrestling is a work buddy

Kingofdaswing 01-30-2014 05:19 PM

Montreal Screw Job

Tazz Dan 01-30-2014 05:21 PM

lol calm down buddy. The reply was made in good humor, not to ruin your thread.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 05:28 PM

to repent Tazz Dan I would like one on topic response to this sir! and then more sarcasm

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 05:29 PM

so it's been 16-17 years since the last work is what you are saying? and people still believe that its possible this whole storyline is?

CSL 01-30-2014 05:33 PM

what storyline?

Innovator 01-30-2014 05:37 PM

Everything is a work. When it's a shoot, it's a work.

BigCrippyZ 01-30-2014 06:00 PM

It's pretty simple. Everything is a work, especially works, but also shoots are works. Except when shoots are not works and then they're shoots. Also works are not works when works are shoots.

Corporate CockSnogger 01-30-2014 06:04 PM

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Are you suggesting some of this stuff is pre-written and then played out in order to entertain an audience? Sounds a bit far fetched to me.

BigCrippyZ 01-30-2014 06:07 PM

Seriously though, it depends on your definition of the majority of people. The majority of the population who's aware of wrestling? The majority of current and past WWE fans? The majority of current WWE fans? The majority of marks? Smarks?

I'd say it's probably been at least 10+ years though.

BigCrippyZ 01-30-2014 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iginfest (Post 4370630)
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Are you suggesting some of this stuff is pre-written and then played out in order to entertain an audience? Sounds a bit far fetched to me.

:wtf: :?: You just totally blew my mind hole!

And in all the right ways! :naughty:

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4370629)
It's pretty simple. Everything is a work, especially works, but also shoots are works. Except when shoots are not works and then they're shoots. Also works are not works when works are shoots.


I literally can't stop laughing at how funny this is

but to clarify because I guess reading the first post was not worded correctly..


the % of people on here saying that WWE is swerving everyone with the DB not main eventing, Punk quitting is all planned out work and we are all going to be pleasantly surprised come mania when its DB winning the belt.

I posed the question of...when is the last time the WWE actually pulled off something that elaborate and thoughtout that would make anyone think there was a .00000000004% chance it could be that

Swiss Ultimate 01-30-2014 06:20 PM

The last work, in my opinion, was John Cena calling out The Rock in interviews and criticizing his post-wrestling career.

XL 01-30-2014 06:49 PM

Seems to me that it's just instinct now to call a work. Better to erroneously call it a work and for it to turn out real than the other way round.

BigCrippyZ 01-30-2014 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NormanSmiley (Post 4370639)
I literally can't stop laughing at how funny this is

but to clarify because I guess reading the first post was not worded correctly..


the % of people on here saying that WWE is swerving everyone with the DB not main eventing, Punk quitting is all planned out work and we are all going to be pleasantly surprised come mania when its DB winning the belt.

I posed the question of...when is the last time the WWE actually pulled off something that elaborate and thoughtout that would make anyone think there was a .00000000004% chance it could be that

I don't think they've EVER done something truly that elaborate and there's NO reason to think they've all of a sudden had the creative genius to pull it off, let alone they're going to be able to execute it effectively.

It doesn't mean it's not possible, just not very likely, especially given their history in the last 10 years.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 06:59 PM

I would be so thrilled with it being a work, I'd be like "WOW THEY GET IT" and blown away, but I have no reason at all to believe it actually is. Because I would love to get worked... I would love to be worked as a mark, it's the whole point of wrestling.

Those calling work are people who like to feel as though they're on the "in" and are the smartest people in the room. There is no reason to believe that the Bryan/Punk and whatever else kind of stuff is a work, considering these are the same people that booked the Bryan/Orton feud only a few months ago.

CSL 01-30-2014 07:00 PM

I'm not even sure what "Bryan not main eventing being a work" actually means

BigCrippyZ 01-30-2014 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4370680)
I'm not even sure what "Bryan not main eventing being a work" actually means

I think he meant that WWE realize DB's popularity and intentionally didn't put him in the Rumble, randomly put him in a feud with Bray Wyatt and then just as quickly dropped the feud and are poorly dragging out his chase and eventual title win at WM, as if it was WWE's brilliant master plan all along that they planned months ago.

They have NEVER planned and effectively written and pulled off something that elaborate and there's almost NO reason to believe they're all of a sudden capable and are going to do it now.

That's not even mentioning the Punk leaving WWE thing is also a work.

I'd love it to be the case and they actually pull it off, but given their history, it's not very likely.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 07:15 PM

What BCZ said.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 07:20 PM

Thank you fellas for translating what I meant to csl. You guys worded it perfect

CSL 01-30-2014 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4370690)
I think he meant that WWE realize DB's popularity and intentionally didn't put him in the Rumble, randomly put him in a feud with Bray Wyatt and then just as quickly dropped the feud and are poorly dragging out his chase and eventual title win at WM, as if it was WWE's brilliant master plan all along that they planned months ago.

has anybody claimed that to be the case?

Theo Dious 01-30-2014 07:31 PM

I think the answer to this is Mark Henry's fake retirement. That was rumored to be legit, and then he suddenly appeared to announce it... and then he flattened Cena.

Also pretty much every time Cena is injured they're like "OMGZ HE WIL BE OUT FOR A HOLE YEAR" then he shows up a month later.

BigCrippyZ 01-30-2014 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4370702)
has anybody claimed that to be the case?

I don't want to put words in others mouths, but if I'm not mistaken, it was my understanding that Heyman and #1-WWF-Fan were basically claiming (or hoping) this was the case, at least to some degree.

Again, that doesn't even include the folks I've seen claiming the Punk quitting WWE is also work and part of some kind of big master plan.

Ol Dirty Dastard 01-30-2014 07:41 PM

Also, The Fraze thinks it's a work.

#1-norm-fan 01-30-2014 07:41 PM

Hmm. I think you misunderstood me, Crippy.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 08:17 PM

He man said it and then some yanker made some post that he's positive its all a master plan at work

CSL 01-30-2014 08:18 PM

bloody yankers

FourFifty 01-30-2014 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4370607)
pro wrestling is a work buddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4370618)
Everything is a work. When it's a shoot, it's a work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4370629)
It's pretty simple. Everything is a work, especially works, but also shoots are works. Except when shoots are not works and then they're shoots. Also works are not works when works are shoots.

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4370669)
Seems to me that it's just instinct now to call a work. Better to erroneously call it a work and for it to turn out real than the other way round.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gorgeous Dale Newstead (Post 4370709)
Also, The Fraze thinks it's a work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSL (Post 4370733)
bloody yankers

Literally everything that needs to be said on the issue has been said.

NormanSmiley 01-30-2014 08:33 PM

Don't kill my thread boner

FourFifty 01-30-2014 08:35 PM

That's BOner to you!

BigCrippyZ 01-30-2014 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4370710)
Hmm. I think you misunderstood me, Crippy.

My bad #1Fan. I usually agree with 99% of your posts. Perhaps I misunderstood or I'm getting some folks confused.

I know there were SOME folks who were pushing the idea that it was all some elaborate work planned out months ago.

#1-norm-fan 01-30-2014 09:03 PM

I definitely lean more toward the idea that they're in "damage control" now. I don't think they ever intended to have Daniel Bryan have a serious title run but they teased it so much that the crowds will take nothing less and now they're in a huge, fucked up situation where they need to give him the title before or at Mania or have something as big as a Cena heel turn to distract the crowd.

Supreme Olajuwon 01-30-2014 09:04 PM

Everyone in here is a dick and CM Punk worked errbody after MITB that one time


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