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Anybody Thrilla 02-14-2014 11:16 PM

Big E...Cesaro...why?
 
As some of you may have noticed, Big E. Langston and Antonio Cesaro have officially had their ring names changed to Big E and Cesaro respectively. I can't see how these changes can be beneficial to anyone at all. Can you? I'd love to hear your thoughts on it.

ron the dial 02-14-2014 11:24 PM

i'd love to hear the reasoning, too, because they both seem like ridiculous "official" moves to make when you can keep the whole damn thing and just not say it all if brevity is what you're looking for. but whatever. it guess it doesn't really change anything. just silly.

#1-norm-fan 02-14-2014 11:32 PM

A guy going by just his last name tends to add an aura to him. Goldberg made him seem like more of a badass than "Bill Goldberg". "Batista" is more badass sounding than "Dave Batista". So I guess maybe they were thinking that win Cesaro.

Big E, I don't know. Maybe along the same vein they're thinking it could add a monster mystique to him to just go by "Big E" and eliminate the more regular guy sounding "Langston".

parkmania 02-14-2014 11:35 PM

Cesaro had to forgo the first name so folks would quit confusing him with Antonio of the Heart Throbs... :shifty:

Anybody Thrilla 02-14-2014 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4378314)
A guy going by just his last name tends to add an aura to him. Goldberg made him seem like more of a badass than "Bill Goldberg". "Batista" is more badass sounding than "Dave Batista". So I guess maybe they were thinking that win Cesaro.

Big E, I don't know. Maybe along the same vein they're thinking it could add a monster mystique to him to just go by "Big E" and eliminate the more regular guy sounding "Langston".

I can almost get on board with your Cesaro reasoning there. Especially since they're pushing him as a beast of sorts.

Big E sounds way too clunky to me. Sounds like the name of someone's sidekick at best.

Evil Vito 02-14-2014 11:50 PM

<font color=goldenrod>Big E sounds too much like Big T. Anything that reminds me of Harlem Heat 2000 can't be good.</font>

Anybody Thrilla 02-14-2014 11:59 PM

Big E is obviously a big dude, but I'm not so sure his height justifies the nickname. He'd almost be better going by just Langston.

Well no, maybe not, but the whole name sounds weird to me. Always has, even with the surname.

FourFifty 02-15-2014 12:17 AM

Big E sold the name Langston for a segway and some 40s.

Anybody Thrilla 02-15-2014 12:25 AM

I saw that on Twitter. I'm glad he's in good spirits about it. Still sounds silly.

FourFifty 02-15-2014 12:27 AM

In all fairness to Cesaro, didn't Sheamus have a last name at one point? They dropped it, and then gave him a strap. Hopefully it'll work out for him.

Evil Vito 02-15-2014 12:29 AM

<font color=goldenrod>Sheamus was Sheamus O'Shaunessy in FCW but never took it to the main roster. He debuted on ECW just as Sheamus.</font>

Lock Jaw 02-15-2014 12:35 AM

"Reports" say that at least with Cesaro, that Vince thought that "Antonio" wasn't a very tough name.

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-15-2014 12:37 AM

More menacing than Claudio.

ron the dial 02-15-2014 12:38 AM

claudio castagnoli was a fanstastic name

the most money making man!

SlickyTrickyDamon 02-15-2014 12:38 AM

It all depends on how good Justin Roberts can say Big E and Cesaro. If he can make the names sound good it will be ok. I'm just glad it's not The Big E... yet.

screech 02-15-2014 12:43 AM

You don't get "The" until you hit the main event.

Anybody Thrilla 02-15-2014 12:45 AM

Antonio Inoki was pretty tough.

ron the dial 02-15-2014 12:47 AM

and in the same ballpark, antonino rocca.

FourFifty 02-15-2014 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4378359)
"Reports" say that at least with Cesaro, that Vince thought that "Antonio" wasn't a very tough name.

Then how does Vince defend "Alberto"? That's not the name of a tough guy. That's the name of someone who you beat up.

NormanSmiley 02-15-2014 01:02 AM

they should both kiss their lucky stars their names weren't changed to duke droese or isaak yankem. but Cesaro sounds fine if you want him as a heel, but as a face fans are gonna wanna identify with someone by first and last name. for the record I prefer E. Langston of the new name

Lock Jaw 02-15-2014 01:23 AM

"Antonio" is good for a "classy/cocky Euro heel" type, but maybe they figured it wasn't good for "Real American tough guy"

#1-norm-fan 02-15-2014 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4378326)
Big E sounds way too clunky to me. Sounds like the name of someone's sidekick at best.

Meh. Maybe it's something they're hoping he can grow into to where people just think of the beast with the name as opposed to really thinking about the name.

I mean... The Undertaker is a fucking silly, bush league wrestling name but it's not something people think of really.

Lock Jaw 02-15-2014 01:45 AM

I remember not liking it when they officially changed Hunter Hearst Helmsley into Triple H

Black Widow 02-15-2014 02:33 AM

This is just cause Antonio Langston is getting ready to debut.

Anybody Thrilla 02-15-2014 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4378387)
Meh. Maybe it's something they're hoping he can grow into to where people just think of the beast with the name as opposed to really thinking about the name.

I mean... The Undertaker is a fucking silly, bush league wrestling name but it's not something people think of really.

The Undertaker also debuted in 1990. It was perfectly acceptable then. If Calloway debuted last year, I doubt that would have been his name.

Rammsteinmad 02-15-2014 10:13 AM

Cesaro dropped the "Antonio" and now gets a clean win over the WWE Champion. I'm all for it. :y:

Shisen Kopf 02-15-2014 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4378476)
The Undertaker also debuted in 1990. It was perfectly acceptable then. If Calloway debuted last year, I doubt that would have been his name.

Plus he was Kane the Undertaker initially. Yes folks, I know everything about rasslin.

The Rogerer 02-15-2014 10:25 AM

On Smackdown, they covered up his 'Toni' jacket embroidery with a patch. This has gone too far!

Vastardikai 02-15-2014 10:25 AM

If they have to make him a face, call him Claudio Cesaro. explain it away that Antonio is his middle name, or do like they did when Steven Regal went to William Regal. Not mention it at all.

Anybody Thrilla 02-15-2014 10:31 AM

I'm not infuriated with the change for Cesaro or anything like that, and I'm glad they finally seem to be behind the guy, but this is just another in a long list of things that WWE change for seemingly no reason.

How many times has someone had a really sweet theme song or something, then they start getting over, and they get a really gay version of that sweet theme song?

Big E was a victim of THAT too, now that I think about it.

Shisen Kopf 02-15-2014 10:39 AM

They should rename Big E to Big Poppa Thump as a tribute to JYD. They are both black you see.

Anybody Thrilla 02-15-2014 11:03 AM

Oh wow, you're right, didn't notice that.

Vastardikai 02-15-2014 11:15 AM

I think they're hoping that going by Big E and Cesaro helps them get more over. Keep in mind that both of them are considered "Cena's Boys."

Anybody Thrilla 02-15-2014 11:20 AM

You mean JOHN Cena? The dude with the first name? Not a particularly intimidating name, either?

#1-norm-fan 02-15-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4378476)
The Undertaker also debuted in 1990. It was perfectly acceptable then. If Calloway debuted last year, I doubt that would have been his name.

No it was a pretty silly, minor league sounding name in 1990 too. It definitely didn't scream "this guy's gonna be legendary..." The point is though that it's an awesome fucking name now and it's only when you really stop and think about it that you realize how silly it is. I can kinda see "Big E" suddenly becoming a good badass name in the same way if he were to actually get over.

Malfeitor 02-15-2014 02:15 PM

Big E >>> Big Show

Razzamajazz 02-15-2014 02:27 PM

so he's big, but what does the E stand for?

Bobo 02-15-2014 02:52 PM

Maybe just rolls off the tongue better and commentators and fans so used to referring to them by their shortened names, it just stuck. When was the last time anyone referred to big nose (Triple H) by his full name? You either hear people refer to him as Triple H or Hunter.

Maybe it's all part of an attempt to push them both which is what they need tbh.

The Naitch 02-15-2014 04:34 PM

Cesaro sounds more main event

Ultra Mantis 02-15-2014 05:30 PM

Big T and the Big O could always be brought in to form a kick ass stable with Big E.


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