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Asmo 03-04-2014 06:47 AM

So, In Kayfabe
 
Do SuperStars go up to the show's general manager / authority and ask them for time on the mic? And, hence, does the GM / authority schedule the matches accordingly?

Ok. Speculate. Any other kayfabe / wrestling tropes you simply can't provide a reasonable answer for?

Innovator 03-04-2014 06:49 AM

When they make the main event on the fly, I assume in storyline that the previous match before it was supposed to close the show. So, if it wasn't for Cena and Bryan challenging people, Heath Slater would be main eventing.

Bad News Gertner 03-04-2014 07:09 AM

Wouldn't that be amazing!

Hanso Amore 03-04-2014 07:51 AM

Lol good point inno. In kayfabe they fly by the seat of their pants on a weekly million dollar show of a billion dollar company.

Hanso Amore 03-04-2014 07:53 AM

I always wondered who in the back is making the call on when security comes out. Like oh shit lets see where this goes.....oh ok he's been put thorn a table, security go out there and break it up.

Bad News Gertner 03-04-2014 08:36 AM

Who was part of this WCW Championship committee that Mike Tenay spoke of?

voncouch 03-04-2014 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Innovator (Post 4389360)
When they make the main event on the fly, I assume in storyline that the previous match before it was supposed to close the show. So, if it wasn't for Cena and Bryan challenging people, Heath Slater would be main eventing.

In that case, are all match contracts written like Mad Libs?

" (Wrestler) challenges (Wrestler) in (Place) on (Date) on the condition of (Stipulation)."

Innovator 03-04-2014 09:50 AM

And how shotty are WWE contracts that they're made up, agreed upon, and signed within minutes. Do they have to be notarized? Is Brad Maddox a notary public?

#1-norm-fan 03-04-2014 10:51 AM

When someone like John Cena does a run in, does he stop by the guy who plays the entrance themes on the way out or does the guy just sit in the back waiting for a guy to run by and then plays their music?

HTrain90 03-04-2014 11:38 AM

When you have a really intense grudge match (like Shawn v Taker in the first cell match, or any number of other feuds that were decidedly personal in nature), how do the guys never run into each other backstage before the match - particularly at the Gorilla position when they walk into the arena within 3 minutes of each other?

Rammsteinmad 03-04-2014 01:09 PM

How the shows and PPV's always manage to end in the allocated time slots. How convenient that the matches end, run in's take place etc, at the exact 3-hour mark.

Hanso Amore 03-04-2014 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HTrain90 (Post 4389424)
When you have a really intense grudge match (like Shawn v Taker in the first cell match, or any number of other feuds that were decidedly personal in nature), how do the guys never run into each other backstage before the match - particularly at the Gorilla position when they walk into the arena within 3 minutes of each other?

Security escorts them from their locker room like Goldberg.

whiteyford 03-04-2014 02:47 PM

There's a heel and face locker room, the fact that when guys turn 99% of the time their past transgressions are forgiven/forgotten about by their new peers is something the UN should investigate as a possible way to bring about world peace because I can't explain why that happens.

BigCrippyZ 03-04-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 4389473)
Security escorts them from their locker room like Goldberg.

When I was young, this is legit what I thought happened.

BigCrippyZ 03-04-2014 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4389412)
When someone like John Cena does a run in, does he stop by the guy who plays the entrance themes on the way out or does the guy just sit in the back waiting for a guy to run by and then plays their music?

He's some scrawny wimp who's ALWAYS friendly with the faces and easily intimidated by the heels.

BigCrippyZ 03-04-2014 04:28 PM

The fact that no one has been prosecuted or convicted of any criminal acts due to their outside the ring actions, i.e., stalking, assault, battery, breaking and entering, attempted murder, destruction of property, harassment, etc.

BTW, Godfather openly and in plain view of public discussed his engagement and activities involving solicitation and use of illicit drugs. He also was never prosecuted or even arrested.

Our criminal justice system is a joke.

MIZantine Empire 03-04-2014 04:54 PM

How a heel champion doesn't leave the ring and get counted out in a title defense.. I always loved when the heel bitches about having to face someone, then wrestles the whole match..

Swiss Ultimate 03-04-2014 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4389412)
When someone like John Cena does a run in, does he stop by the guy who plays the entrance themes on the way out or does the guy just sit in the back waiting for a guy to run by and then plays their music?


XL 03-04-2014 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Asmo (Post 4389359)
Do SuperStars go up to the show's general manager / authority and ask them for time on the mic? And, hence, does the GM / authority schedule the matches accordingly?

Ok. Speculate. Any other kayfabe / wrestling tropes you simply can't provide a reasonable answer for?

Stands to reason. They'd also have to specify what they wanted to talk about. Otherwise, how would the commentators and graphics guys know that Cena was coming out to "confront The Wyatts".

JimmyMess 03-04-2014 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4389486)
There's a heel and face locker room, the fact that when guys turn 99% of the time their past transgressions are forgiven/forgotten about by their new peers is something the UN should investigate as a possible way to bring about world peace because I can't explain why that happens.

"I hate you and you hate me... but we BOTH hate THAT guy more"

Theo Dious 03-04-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MIZantine Empire (Post 4389528)
How a heel champion doesn't leave the ring and get counted out in a title defense.. I always loved when the heel bitches about having to face someone, then wrestles the whole match..

To be fair on this one, there have been instances in the past of such tactics leading to threatened actions or stipulations. If someone intentionally gets himself counted out or DQ'ed, it can lead to a street fight of some kind where such things are irrelevant.

Theo Dious 03-04-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyMess (Post 4389562)
"I hate you and you hate me... but we BOTH hate THAT guy more"

Isn't that basically what happened between Hitler and Stalin before Hitler turned heel on Russia?

Theo Dious 03-04-2014 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4389517)
BTW, Godfather openly and in plain view of public discussed his engagement and activities involving solicitation and use of illicit drugs. He also was never prosecuted or even arrested.

Meh, people do this a lot. Prosecution and arrest would take much more investigation, otherwise he'd just be like "ha ha just kidding."

NormanSmiley 03-04-2014 08:16 PM

when the wcw tv title would be defended on PPv bugged me

also the intercontinental title being defended on world tours

BigCrippyZ 03-04-2014 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Theo Dious (Post 4389572)
Meh, people do this a lot. Prosecution and arrest would take much more investigation, otherwise he'd just be like "ha ha just kidding."

True, but he was never even investigated and was on national TV every week!

JimmyMess 03-04-2014 09:07 PM

Also in kayfabe, and its a question I've seen on here before. What ever happened to the rule of the champion having to defend their strap every X amount of days? It comes up occasionally in storylines but is never consistant.

Ambrose defended his belt in February, but when was the time before that? October?

Or AJ Lee?

what is exactly is the kayfabe "rule"?

NormanSmiley 03-04-2014 10:36 PM

30 days was the rule in the 80s

Shisen Kopf 03-04-2014 10:37 PM

Remember when Tatanka turned heel? Man that was intense. Tatanka rules!

Lock Jaw 03-04-2014 11:17 PM

As a former general manager, I can say confidently that when I was running things, I had a rough outline for what I would like to happen on my shows.... but I would often manufacture situations that would result in me making the match "on the spot" so it feels "spontaneous".

Like I'd give an open mic to Face of the Month, fully expecting Heel of the Month to come out and talk smack... leading to me making the match I was going to have anyways. They are very predictable and reliable when it comes to this.

Curd 03-05-2014 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4389379)
Who was part of this WCW Championship committee that Mike Tenay spoke of?

In kayfabe, I presume JJ Dillon, Terry Taylor, and Paul Orndorff for the perspective of retired wrestlers, Dr. Harvey Schiller for an injury proneness perspective, and Doug Dillenger as Ted Turner's proxy. :lol:

Bad News Gertner 03-05-2014 12:58 AM

Why did wrestlers continuously try and powerbomb Kidman week after week? It's not like they couldn't just watch the show.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2014 01:28 AM

One I just noticed watching Lesnar F5 Henry. Why remove the monitors? If you're willing to hit someone with a chair and put them through an announce table, who cares about their safety?

Lock Jaw 03-05-2014 01:34 AM

Brock Lesnar just hates monitors.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2014 01:40 AM

"Write that down. I hate monitors."

Lock Jaw 03-05-2014 01:43 AM

http://i.imgur.com/ENf9o6a.gif

whiteyford 03-05-2014 01:43 AM

I remember a few years back there was actually a plan to publish a 'rule' book, wonder why they nixed that idea...

BigCrippyZ 03-05-2014 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by whiteyford (Post 4389725)
I remember a few years back there was actually a plan to publish a 'rule' book, wonder why they nixed that idea...

Creates too much "structure" they'd then have to "follow" or always consider when booking/writing.

Swiss Ultimate 03-05-2014 01:59 AM

It'd be too much work for the lazy ass WWE writers. Heh.

They probably have their own writing guides.

whiteyford 03-05-2014 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JimmyMess (Post 4389598)
Also in kayfabe, and its a question I've seen on here before. What ever happened to the rule of the champion having to defend their strap every X amount of days? It comes up occasionally in storylines but is never consistant.

Ambrose defended his belt in February, but when was the time before that? October?

Or AJ Lee?

what is exactly is the kayfabe "rule"?

House shows:shifty:

#1-norm-fan 03-05-2014 02:19 AM

Why is a camera always filming authority figures talking on the phone in their office? And why does someone always walk in and interrupt their conversation seconds after they cut to that camera?


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