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Vastardikai 07-01-2014 09:46 PM

Rusev and Rhyno Disease.
 
After having watched the segment with Swagger and his Armdrags of Freedom, I noticed something that was kind of obvious.

Swagger TOWERS over Rusev.

I mentioned it to a friend, who said "to be fair, Swagger is about 6'7"." That observation leads me to another realization.

Rusev has Rhyno Disease.

Rhyno Disease was something I first started noticing when Rhyno made his WWF/E debut. When he was Rhino in ECW he looked like a huge monster. Then, compared to many of the cast of characters in WWF/E, you realize that Rhyno really wasn't that big. I think that kind of helped to hamper his run (in addition to a poorly timed neck injury).

Rusev, while built like a brick wall, really isn't that tall. And this is going to be a huge detriment to him as a monster going forward. Especially considering potential marquis match-ups. He's going to be looking up at guys he's supposed to be a bruiser compared to. Kind of takes away from the monster aura.

Discuss. Or don't.

Nowhere Man 07-02-2014 12:11 AM

Rusev's not very tall, no, but he's wide and bulky, and that goes a long way. It's all really a matter of how they book him, and how well he sells it. Look at Taz in ECW, for example-- the guy was tiny, but they booked him as an absolute killer, and he acted like one, suplexing people to death and choking them out. Granted, WWE jobbed him out and he became a lovably inept color commentator, but there was a time when Taz could get in the ring with pretty much anybody and people would buy that he could just maul them.

So, physique is important, yes, but not as important as presentation and physicality.

Lock Jaw 07-02-2014 12:26 AM

Yeah, Rusev has the advantage that he is very wide. Looks like a tank.

Rhyno was not built as impressively as Rusev.

Shisen Kopf 07-02-2014 12:29 AM

Rusev=http://cdn29.elitedaily.com/wp-conte...an-d6n15qb.jpg

Dark One 07-02-2014 12:57 AM

Boots would probably help.

Rollermacka 07-02-2014 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark One (Post 4461953)
Boots would probably help.

I agree, he could get some lifts and maybe be around six one/ two-ish, it's the same thing with Big E. Friends who have spent time backstage for the WWE, said that E is maybe 5 ft 8 without boots and contrary to that Fandango is pretty jacked and is easy 6 ft five/ six. Kinda makes you think though, how much does gimmick play a difference in how a person is perceived in the world of professional wrestling....

Sepholio 07-02-2014 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man (Post 4461898)
Rusev's not very tall, no, but he's wide and bulky, and that goes a long way. It's all really a matter of how they book him, and how well he sells it. Look at Taz in ECW, for example-- the guy was tiny, but they booked him as an absolute killer, and he acted like one, suplexing people to death and choking them out. Granted, WWE jobbed him out and he became a lovably inept color commentator, but there was a time when Taz could get in the ring with pretty much anybody and people would buy that he could just maul them.

So, physique is important, yes, but not as important as presentation and physicality.

Taz was the first to put down Kurt Angle. Nothing else matters.

But yea, I agree. It's all gonna be in the presentation with him. I feel like he will end up going the way of Ryback though, considering this is WWE. When Jack Swagger gets the upper hand on you nowadays, if only for a fleeting moment, then your future isn't looking to bright.

Fignuts 07-02-2014 03:14 AM

Now all I can think of is Taz and how much they wasted him.

He had that really bad neck injury, but I wonder if it was really impossible to come back from, or if he decided it wasn't worth it given how bad they were using him.

EzekielKane 07-02-2014 09:42 AM

The problem with these guys is that theyre too generic and not believable as athletes. They are more like bodybuilders. For example, either of the Cassatt brothers is more believable because they are not just big but also athletic.


Just my two 02 cents.

Hanso Amore 07-02-2014 12:13 PM

Hes not really billed as a tall guy and thats not his style. His whole thing is that hes built like a brick shithouse and for a 300+ pound wrecking ball he is super athletic.

Hanso Amore 07-02-2014 12:14 PM

Rhyno disease was that he wasnt that good in the ring, and wasnt even as big as Rusev and had no character or gimmick and was misused.

They arent related

Hanso Amore 07-02-2014 12:15 PM

Rhyno was billed at 5'10 275 which means he was 5'8 250 tops.

Rusev has a legit 4 inches and 50 pounds on Rhyno.

EzekielKane 07-02-2014 12:44 PM

So, do you think Cazzam Cassatt falls into the Rhyno category or the Rusev category?

JimmyMess 07-02-2014 01:51 PM

As soon as I saw Rusev on TV I had two thoughts:

1. He's not tall and won't match up against the big main event players.
2. He's going to either break his foot or rip his toe nails off by accident because he doesn't wear boots.

Rollermacka 07-02-2014 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzekielKane (Post 4462118)
So, do you think Cazzam Cassatt falls into the Rhyno category or the Rusev category?

At first, I got really excited because I thought this said Kazaam on Cassette
http://mlb-s2-p.mlstatic.com/vhs-fil...2_062012-O.jpg
What the hell is a Cazzam Cassatt?

EzekielKane 07-02-2014 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 4462206)
At first, I got really excited because I thought this said Kazaam on Cassette
http://mlb-s2-p.mlstatic.com/vhs-fil...2_062012-O.jpg
What the hell is a Cazzam Cassatt?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/klt1gLxkvzQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/_2IKndHvppA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

Rollermacka 07-02-2014 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzekielKane (Post 4462210)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/klt1gLxkvzQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>


<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/_2IKndHvppA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen=""></iframe>

Oh it's some fat kid playing backyard wrestler..... I guess I'd rather go watch Kazaam (how often is that said?)

EzekielKane 07-02-2014 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 4462214)
Oh it's some fat kid playing backyard wrestler..... I guess I'd rather go watch Kazaam (how often is that said?)

Fat kid? I bet this "fat" "kid" could knock your smart ass out! Cazzam reminds me of a young Brock Lesnar. Hes got what it takes to pound some ass.

Rollermacka 07-02-2014 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzekielKane (Post 4462218)
Fat kid? I bet this "fat" "kid" could knock your smart ass out! Cazzam reminds me of a young Brock Lesnar. Hes got what it takes to pound some ass.

Whatever, boy. You go ahead and keep wrestling in your mom's backyard, I'll continue being a real professional wrestler....

EzekielKane 07-02-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 4462231)
Whatever, boy. You go ahead and keep wrestling in your mom's backyard, I'll continue being a real professional wrestler....

I already told your unlearned ass that Im not a wrestler but Cazaam is and I bet he would outwrestle your corny ass faster than u can say "professional". Just because u paid money for a gym doesn't make u a pro it makes u a guy who laid down money for a gym!

Emperor Smeat 07-02-2014 05:37 PM

He's small if you compare him to Swagger or Big Show but his style as a "big man" is a lot closer to Henry and Ryback.

Big Show is almost a foot taller than Henry but a large chunk of the audience would still believe Henry as the "bigger" beast of the two because of his established strength.

EzekielKane 07-02-2014 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smelly Meatball (Post 4462246)
He's small if you compare him to Swagger or Big Show but his style as a "big man" is a lot closer to Henry and Ryback.

Big Show is almost a foot taller than Henry but a large chunk of the audience would still believe Henry as the "bigger" beast of the two because of his established strength.

I agree. Also Henry is taller than Cassatt, but because of his experience, fans would see Henry as the bigger man compared to Cassatt.

Sepholio 07-02-2014 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EzekielKane (Post 4462218)
Fat kid? I bet this "fat" "kid" could knock your smart ass out! Cazzam reminds me of a young Brock Lesnar. Hes got what it takes to pound some ass.

Does he have what it takes to pound your ass? Or is that reserved exclusively for MG HURST?

EzekielKane 07-02-2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seph (Post 4462254)
Does he have what it takes to pound your ass? Or is that reserved exclusively for MG HURST?



STFU.

drave 07-02-2014 06:02 PM

LOL!

Paul Titan is the goods. Need to do some watchin.


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