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Poit 10-29-2014 11:05 PM

Question of the Week: Who should get a push from being on a Survivor Series team?
 
TLP Question Of The Week:

Which midcarder or jobber do you think should get a push started by being on a Survivor Series team, and why?

Lock Jaw 10-30-2014 03:09 AM

Christian. No reason necessary.

Shisen Kopf 10-30-2014 05:42 AM

The Uso on the left

Bad News Gertner 10-30-2014 08:36 AM

Slater

road doggy dogg 10-30-2014 08:44 AM

John Felix Anthony Cena

Big Vic 10-30-2014 10:41 AM

Ambrose should score a pinfall over Rollins if they plan to move him on to face Wyatt next.

SlickyTrickyDamon 10-30-2014 10:48 AM

Zack Ryder. He and Dolph are friends. Like Dottie Henson and her sister from a League of Their Own. Ryder is forced on the team by the Show Off.

He then becomes the fat kid from the movie saying "you're gonna lose" to teammates.

Evil Vito 10-30-2014 10:53 AM

<font color=goldenrod>If they've totally abandoned the idea of the new Nation of Domination stable (and after several months I think it's safe to say they have) I wouldn't mind Big E getting thrown onto Team Cena. I love that dude. Plus it'd make sense that Cena would want to have some extra muscle on his team.</font>

Ultra Mantis 10-30-2014 10:55 AM

Johnny Curtis, because push Johnny Curtis damn it!

Mr. Nerfect 10-30-2014 11:53 AM

Johnny Curtis, or whatever he is repackaged as would be cool. But I'm actually hoping for Ryback to be a part of Team Cena.

Mr. Nerfect 10-30-2014 11:54 AM

It would also make a weird amount of sense for Cena to bring up Adrian Neville for his team, since Cena's character finds Neville so impressive.

XL 10-30-2014 01:34 PM

Not so much a genuine shove but the start of something; I'd have Miz and Mizdow on a team, have Miz pinned but have him send Mizdow to the back in his place (the ref would be confused but allow it). Somewhere down the line I'd have Mizdow sent in as a replacement for Miz in a match against Sheamus for the US title and actually have Mizdow score the upset victory only for Miz to grab the title from the time keeper and take the title for himself. This would give plenty of sympathy for Mizdow and build towards a match between the two where Mizdow wins the belt proper.

Anybody Thrilla 10-30-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4536705)
Zack Ryder. He and Dolph are friends. Like Dottie Henson and her sister from a League of Their Own. Ryder is forced on the team by the Show Off.

He then becomes the fat kid from the movie saying "you're gonna lose" to teammates.

He's even on-air friends with Cena. The more I think about it, he'd be a good fit for the team.

Emperor Smeat 10-30-2014 06:19 PM

Cesaro. Can become the new "muscle" of the Authority and right now compliments the Ziggler pick on Cena's side.

Also really deserves to get that long awaited post-Mania push that got quickly tossed in the gutter just like the dreams of this post-Mania period being really amazing for the WWE.

Fignuts 10-30-2014 10:26 PM

Yeah, Cesaro needs to be in this.

I wouldn't say he's been buried, since he still looks kinda strong in all his recent losses, but he's still losing all the time.

VSG 10-30-2014 10:41 PM

Cesaro, and then he can come to the amazing remixed Dean Malenko again. Heck, get Maxine back and have her be a valet.

Tazz Dan 10-31-2014 07:41 AM

Jeff Hardy

Tazz Dan 10-31-2014 07:42 AM

But since he's not with the company, Ziggler.

Tazz Dan 10-31-2014 07:43 AM

Also, while I don't realistically seeing it happen, I think Zack Ryder would be a good pick for the team, given his on-screen friendship with Cena and Dolph, and the fact he'd like revenge on Kane.

Tazz Dan 10-31-2014 07:44 AM

And after reading this thread, others agree with my thoughts :y:

Tazz Dan 10-31-2014 07:45 AM

Adrian Neville would also make sense I guess, I noticed somebody suggest him. As NXT champion, and wanting his chance to take the step to the main roster, it would be a good place to bring him up.

XL 10-31-2014 12:13 PM

Borrowing from that idea;

They should push NXT as a whole by having a Traditional Survivor Series NXT Showcase.

Neville/Zayn/Corbin/Lucha Dragons vs. Breeze/Kidd/Bull Dempsy/Vaudevillains.

loopydate 10-31-2014 01:36 PM

I love that idea! Even if it's just the preshow match. I would use it to build upon Corbin's "lone wolf" character by having him reluctant to join in on the pre-match promo, insist on starting the match, and refusing to tag out. He has a good showing and gets a couple eliminations, but he's eventually worn down by the numbers and eliminated. The heels win and start to beat down Neville, who was the last one eliminated. Corbin comes back and helps fight them off, then has an "I want that" stare down with Neville and the belt. Boom, there's your next NXT title feud with an instantly credible contender.

Ruien 10-31-2014 02:33 PM

THE RYBACK! Assuming there is a second 5 on 5 match then he should be in it and just dominate the match.

Shisen Kopf 10-31-2014 03:02 PM

Definitely THE RYBACK. All other answers are so terribly wrong.

XL 10-31-2014 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loopydate (Post 4537389)
I love that idea! Even if it's just the preshow match. I would use it to build upon Corbin's "lone wolf" character by having him reluctant to join in on the pre-match promo, insist on starting the match, and refusing to tag out. He has a good showing and gets a couple eliminations, but he's eventually worn down by the numbers and eliminated. The heels win and start to beat down Neville, who was the last one eliminated. Corbin comes back and helps fight them off, then has an "I want that" stare down with Neville and the belt. Boom, there's your next NXT title feud with an instantly credible contender.

It'd be interesting just to see what Corbin can do, as he's only had 20 second matches.

Mr. Nerfect 10-31-2014 08:22 PM

I like the idea of the NXT Elimination match, but I wouldn't have Corbin out there. Adrian Neville and Sami Zayn are musts for the face team. Lucha Dragons also fit. Maybe Hideo Itami as the last guy in there? Have Tyson Kidd, Tyler Breeze, The Vaudevillains and maybe Bull Dempsey on the heel side. Titus O'Neil would also make sense given current storylines.

Mr. Nerfect 10-31-2014 09:24 PM

That being said, they also have that "NXT 5" thing going on. Kevin Steen hasn't debuted on NXT television yet, but it would certainly help him stand out in NXT if his claim to fame was working Survivor Series first. Adrian Neville, Sami Zayn, Hideo Itami, Finn Balor & Kevin Owens vs. Titus O'Neil, Tyler Breeze, Tyson Kidd & The Ascension?

Mr. Nerfect 10-31-2014 09:25 PM

Heath Slater can appear in Titus's corner and get kicked in the head really hard by Itami to start off the match in a big way.

loopydate 10-31-2014 09:41 PM

Hm... Blue-chip prospect debuts at Survivor Series. Could work.

Mr. Nerfect 10-31-2014 10:01 PM

Michael Cole mentioned on SmackDown that The Rock and The Undertaker debuted at Survivor Series. I could see them hyping that aspect during the match.
"We could be looking at a future Hall of Famer, Mackel!"

Mr. Nerfect 10-31-2014 10:15 PM

How about this booking for the match:

* Tom Phillips, Renee Young and William Regal switch in as the commentary team, to give the match a different feel presentation-wise.

* Sami Zayn comes out kicking and dancing as he usually does. Hideo Itami is out, followed by his friend, rival and sometimes partner, Finn Balor. Kevin Owens makes his WWE debut, showing up at Survivor Series before he even appears on NXT. Adrian Neville is last out as the NXT Champion.

* Heath Slater accompanies Titus O'Neil, Tyson Kidd, Tyler Breeze & The Ascension to the ring. Prior to the match, Kevin Owens, the unknown bad-ass of the group, slinks off the apron, and approaches an unaware Slater, doing his usual cocky antics outside the ring. Owens then beats the living crap out of Slater all around the ringside area.
"Meet Kevin Owens." - Tom Phillips

* O'Neil now wants to start with Owens, who is all too happy to oblige. They brawl for a bit, and then Owens plays up his history with Zayn, tagging him in. I never saw them team, but this would be a great time for their double-team moves to come out. Zayn breaks things down and hits all his high-flying stuff, with all the faces (and some of the heels) hitting their moves to the outside too.

* Zayn gets O'Neil back in the ring and hits a Helluva Kick followed by the Koji Clutch to make the big man submit. A great way to introduce Zayn as a guy who can fly and is a great mat-wrestler, and the least NXT-associated guy going first puts all the other guys over.

* The Ascension mug Zayn, and the heels beat Zayn down in their corner, but he tags out to Itami, who has a personal grudge against The Ascension, who cleans house on them. He lines up a kick from his corner on Viktor, which allows Balor to blind-tag in, and follow up the kick with a move off the top rope, showing some impressive teamwork. Balor pins Viktor.

* Tyson Kidd and Finn Balor then have a chain-sequence which escalates quickly, but Kidd can't put Balor away, and sells the frustration. Balor makes a comeback, but before he can beat Kidd, Breeze blind-tags in and then sneakily rolls up Balor using the tights for the three count.

* Zayn and Breeze mix it up as old/current rivals, and they re-do the spot where Zayn looks for the Helluva Kick, but Breeze drops down, crotching Zayn. Breeze quickly tags in Konnor, and the two heels do an improvised version of The Fall of Man, with Breeze hitting Zayn with a Beauty Shot as Konnor sweeps the leg. This eliminates Zayn.

* Itami wants his hands on Konnor, and he nails some vicious kicks, but his tunnel-vision leads to him being caught and dropped with the fireman's carry flapjack, but Konnor bounces back into the ropes, allowing Kidd to tag in and hit the Springboard Flying Elbow for the overkill pin.

* Neville does some cool stuff, and ends up in the ring with Kidd, and the two trade some moves, with Kidd going for the Sharpshooter -- only for a roll-up to eliminate Kidd.

* Breeze and Konnor now beat-down Neville, as Owens is fuming on the apron. Neville does make a hot tag, and Owens lights up Breeze. Owens looks for the Package Piledriver, but Konnor nails Owens in the back with a steel chair. Konnor is disqualified, but Owens is down. Breeze rolls into a cover, but only gets two. An execution-style Supermodel Kick finally puts Owens down, however.

* Breeze and Neville are the last two guys, and they work the end stages of the match. Neville goes for the Red Arrow, but Breeze gets the knees up, but it only gets a two count. Breeze again goes for the execution-style Supermodel Kick, but Neville counters and manages to position Breeze for a top rope move again. This time it is an Imploding Star Press, which connects, allowing the faces to win the match.

* Sami Zayn, Hideo Itami, Finn Balor & Kevin Owens all come back out and celebrate with Adrian Neville as the commentators pimp NXT on the WWE Network.

FourFifty 10-31-2014 10:51 PM

What Noid said, only with less words, and more stress on Tyler Breeze being awesome.

XL 11-01-2014 01:25 AM

I omitted The Ascension due to the rumour of their imminent call-up. Didn't want to muddy the water with that. Same kinda deal for Titus; he's a Main Roster guy, really.

XL 11-01-2014 01:29 AM

Love the booking, Noid. Wouldn't see the match being given all that time though, sadly. We'd be more likely to see the faces demolish the heels in quick fashion. Unless it was on the pre-show, which kinda contradicts the point of it being a showcase.

Poit 11-01-2014 01:57 AM

How many viewers do the kickoff shows get? They're free on Youtube & such.

GD 11-01-2014 02:32 AM

I would like to see Dolph Ziggler get a push. Although, he has held the big gold belt twice, he has yet to win the WWE Championship. It would be interesting if the WWE gave him more mic time and a chance to evolve his character.

Tom Guycott 11-01-2014 03:16 AM

I'm inclined to agree with all the Ryder talk. Even if he is on a losing team, him making a strong showing (like a couple of eliminations himself, or being the last guy and not being dropped easily, or both) could be a step in a good direction for him... as long as WWE puts it over and doesn't downplay it.

Little things like this could help build the foundation for greasing the wheel with relevant stars instead of scrambling to hotshot main eventers to be instantly over and marketable from the bottom of the deck.

XL 11-01-2014 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Poit (Post 4537716)
How many viewers do the kickoff shows get? They're free on Youtube & such.

With no stats or facts to back this up; I'd say fewer people watch the Kickoff show than watch the PPV.

Even though it's free and widely available it seems a lot of effort to watch it if you're not going to watch the actual show, and you don't need to watch the Kickoff in order to watch the PPV.

XL 11-01-2014 05:19 AM

They should turn Ryder heel.

Have him join Team Cena, get down to Ryder/Cena being the last men and you do the drop off the apron heel turn. Ryder walks away, leaving Cena to the mercy (or lack thereof) of Team Authority.

I wouldn't have Ryder physically attack Cena as we don't want to suspend disbelief too much. I definately wouldn't go with a Ryder/Cena programme or match afterwards either, let the guy keep some steam.

Ryder justifies his actions by recalling what happened to him a couple years ago with the whole Cena/Eve deal, and he becomes a relevant midcard heel act.

You could attach him to The Authority if you wanted, and explain away the whole Kane issue with the usual wrestling BS. You'd have him be the corporate-backed guy sent after Dolph and the IC Title.

Though I'd be inclined to keep him separate do he doesn't become the Authority's whipping boy, and still have him go after the IC Championship.


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