World of Warcraft: Legion
 

The alpha is out, we move on from WoD, get ready to hype a return to Azeroth, play a few months and then resume our lives.

The expansion has been a visual delight and the music is tremendous. Atmospherically it is their best work they've ever done IMO. The questing process is very engaging, the dungeons are fun, and the initial garrison aspect is incredibly engaging.

I feel that they tried to force too much with the garrisons though. It feels like instead of AFKing in Stormwind/Org all day, you just AFK in your garrison with all your amenities, refreshing follower missions and work orders as need be.

Between the garrison and the insistent focus on instanced and phased questing/dungeons, the game is feeling more single-player than MMO to me IMO. There's less going out into the world and engaging with other players, and more selfish-type play of being a recluse. Especially with the toxic attitudes of the type of players who queue up in LFR and LFD. Cross-realm has killed the community feel of servers.

That's all the downside stuff. If you have a solid group to play with, that is all entirely irrelevant and the game is a blast.

I am currently on a server with 3 RL friends and we occasionally do crap. Nothing large-scale though. Feeling kind of empty when I log on. Maybe I'll quest with you a bit and we can be a fearless duo who brings wrath upon our foes.

Haven't done any LFR yet, may try it out tonight. My ilvl is only about 626 or so, I don't even know if that's high enough to get in. I've heard this tier is a joke on LFR, moreso than usual, so hopefully won't be too stressful.

Eventually would like to do some Normal difficulty pugs. Highly doubt I will ever do a Heroic or Mythic raid unless I rejoin a guild or something (something that sounds so dreadful to do at this point in my life)

I'm remembering stuff that I forgot after a 2 year abscence like transmog and airdropping into Orgrimmar as a Human Mage. I'll probably get an hour or two in tonight.

They trimmed down a lot of stuff in this expansion. Abilities have been pruned to be less overwhelming. Transmog is still in but they got rid of reforging. Also got rid of Hit and Expertise and Dodge and Parry and some other stats.

The design intent was to make gear more "pick up and go" instead of having to reforge everything to make sure you're exactly hit-capped and not "wasting" item budget etc. I get that, but definitely feels almost too simplified. Very Diablo-esque loot feel. Sockets are much rarer now too.

I'm confused by the timelines in the early part of the game. Ogrimmar has Vol'jin as Warchief, but all the early quests still seem to have Garrosh as Warchief and seems very post-WotLK. Struggling to get to grips how it's going to work when I get onto the Northrend content, where presumably Arthas will still be Lich King, even though at the start of the game he's been beaten already?

Thought that many instances of the game were phased now, maybe they have it work as such?

The short answer is, yeah it's fucked but they didn't have time to redo the Outland and Northrend zones when they revamped 1-60.

http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...lysm-interview

Specifically:

I'll just imagine myself jumping into a TARDIS before I get onto the BC content then.

Kinda feel the time altering storyline for WoD was just a cash grab at another expansion. None of it makes any sense with what has already transpired. Though I guess, 99% of players don't know or care :)

It really was a not-so-subtle way to try to bring back the core demographic that made previous expansions so successful.

Basically "WE'RE SORRY ABOUT GODDAMN PANDAS! HEY LOOK, HERE'S SOME NAMES YOU MIGHT RECOGNIZE FROM WARCRAFT 2!!!"

Well shit, Moonguard server is still an erotic RP place in Goldshire, gotta give credit to the pervs sticking it out all these years. Walked into a room that had a Tauren costumed Nelf male Druid sitting on a Human Mage's face and said Human male Mage getting fucked by a Nelf hunter chick

School ends in a week. It will then be time for me to return.

I lol'd at the Moon Guard snapchat

Whatever makes their sub worth their while, I suppose.

have you been there?

Got 2 of my 90s to their garrisons last night.

What is "the garrison"? Is it the host of all the dailys?

Haven't read and CBA to search :shifty:

Basically yeah. Part of the questline in Draenor is establishing your own base of command. You build it up and it's essentially your own mini-Stormwind.

Ah, kinda nifty. Sounds like a helluva new time sink.

It is. And it's a fun thing to work on, but it really goes a long way in making you feel secluded from the rest of the world. You have your own private area that requires no interaction with fellow players. Kinda dumb design idea IMO. But it's fun.

I broke ground on two of them last night, one on my original server and one on RDD's server. I heard you can earn stuff even when not playing so why not get them both started all parallel like.

Paladin and Mage, love to pvp with both of them. I'll bring up the others once I get more time.

Wife was really cool last night, I feel like I have to earn my playtime, but it ain't like that. That's just my mindset. Plus, work tires me the hell out and I got to sleep at midnight, nerfed from my usual times of 2-3a.m.

Get your casuals out of my WoW!

I've yet to really PVP much in WoD. Want to get the mad heals going on... can't be bothered doing anything else

Feel like it's going to be forever til I get to Garrisons. Only just got to level 50.

I logged on to all my characters last night and some of them were level 86 with 4xp away from 87. It was weird, been trying to find the reason behind it, but I'll take the extra xp nonetheless

I did my daily dungeon last night and nobody in the group said a single word all run. I even extended the olive branch at the end with a tee hee "nice clean run guys, cheers :)" and was no-sold. Chinese sons of bitches.

I'll get my Pally up to 100 and run dungeons with you, no one should have to do that alone.

My goals are to get that pally and my Mage to 100. It'll give me room to play with everyone I want to play with

I don't mind running solo on my shaman since I just heal and my ilvl is high enough now where I can essentially carry bad groups to victory. But defs looking forward to running with my stablemate

Warlord of Draining your free time.

Better than Power Rangers :shifty:

Non sequitur. There is no Power Rangers MMORPG...hmmm....yet

here we fuckin go

Was referring to the "free time drain" you twit.

No more benefit of the doubt, it is clear that there is something mentally missing within your thought process.

Anyhoo, back to the WoW Talk:

Other than looking nifty, are there any perks of garrisons?

Nvm on the garrisons, I just wowheaded that shit.

The whole process and sheer amount of stuff to do seems overwhelming.

It is a lot to take in at the start. Once you get your bearings with it it's not so bad. Once a day I'll pick my herbs and mine my ores and do my daily pet battle. If the daily pet battle is an easy one that can be done quickly I'll stick around and train some low-level pets on it (I'm addicted to WoW Pokemons). Usually send my followers on a slew of missions, trying to get a bunch of max-level ones etc. Check work orders and send more out of need be. Go to my inn and grab any daily quests to run.

All in all, "Garrison maintenance" doesn't take more than 10-15 minutes a day. Still feels like a chore, though.

How do you get started with the pet battling stuff anyway? Never seem to be able to interact with any of the pet tamers I run across.

You can't do anything with the tamers until you do the "starter quest"; actually, you may not be able to battle at all until you start it (not sure).

For Alliance, there's a chick in Stormwind right near where the Cataclysm portals are. There will be a quest marker on the minimap to find her.

I'm assuming similar NPC exists in Orgrimmar as well.

feel free to paste that stuff in here, WoWhead is not available in my lands. Hence, we bring any and all data to this thread in text form

RDD, the cooldowns on profs discussion yesterday, you're talking about big ticket items and all, I remember those now, I was wondering if it was lucrative to sell low level ores/cloths though. I'm sure I'll figure it out soon, so much stuff in game to do and relearn, wow

Breaks it down by category..... what'chu need mayne?

Hubs
Guides
Builds
Followers
Quests
Missions
Work ORders Calculators