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WWE.Com's Top 50 Talkers in Wrestling History
On this weeks Squared Circle Gazette podcast we decided to dive in to WWE.Com's Top 50 Talkers in Wrestling History list that they put out a while ago, since it caught my eye as an interesting topic of discussion. So for those interested in promo discussion, below is the link as we talk about the rankings, who should be higher or lower, who shouldn't be on at all, and some of the names that were inexplicably left off. A pretty fun show, check it out and let me know what you think~!
http://squaredcirclegazette.podbean....sOfAllTime.mp3 And as a general discussion point, here was the list itself, what do you make of it? 50. Scott Steiner 49. Joel Gertner 48. Jimmy Valiant 47. Zeb Colter 46. New Jack 45. The Grand Wizard of Wrestling 44. Brian Pillman 43. JBL 42. Thunderbolt Patterson 41. The Miz 40. Kevin Sullivan 39. William Regal 38. Tazz 37. Stephanie McMahon 36. Ernie Ladd 35. Kurt Angle 34. Bray Wyatt 33. Rick Rude 32. Gary Hart 31. Ultimate Warrior 30. Michael P.S. Hayes 29. Nick Bockwinkel 28. Raven 27. Jesse Ventura 26. Jerry Lawler 25. The Million Dollar Man 24. Terry Funk 23. Shawn Michaels 22. Harley Race 21. Edge 20. Captain Lou Albano 19. Triple H 18. Macho Man Randy Savage 17. Jim Cornette 16. CM Punk 15. Arn Anderson 14. Superstar Billy Graham 13. Mr. McMahon 12. John Cena 11. Jake Roberts 10. Chris Jericho 9. Hulk Hogan 8. Bobby The Brain Heenan 7. Mick Foley 6. Paul Heyman 5. Dusty Rhodes 4. Stone Cold Steve Austin 3. Roddy Piper 2. The Rock 1. Ric Flair |
think Punk would comfortably be in the top ten if he would still have been with the company when it came out
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Punk should be way higher. Heenan should be number 1. I love the Hulkster but he wasn't a top ten talker. And Macho is too low. That is my opinion and if you use it on your podcast it will cost you Five (5) American dollars!
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nawww son, Hogan's promos were the shit "back in the day"/until like 1991, would def have him top ten. But yah Savage should have been higher
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True. I think I'm jaded by his,later stuff "Brother, dude, slamming Andre the Giant, etc" seems like that's all he says now.
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Punk should be like 151.
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warrior should have been top 10. No sting? No Scot Hall?
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Gonna probably upset a few peeps here but I wouldn't have ranked Flair in the top five, and I've always thought Dusty Rhodes was super overrated as a talker.
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Eddie Guerero was worthy of a mention as was Jim Ross the latter ok not a wrestler but neither was Bobby Heenan who should have ranked higher imo as should have Hogan. Missing out Sting was just criminal though.
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Sting I can see the argument against - he wasn't a great promo for most of his career, he only really got great in TNA.
Punk is an awesome talker, but all time history of the business I don't know about Top 10. As debated on the podcast, Savage is the hardest one for me to position - I love Savage as a personality, he's so much fun as a promo, but he's not as versatile as a guy like Lawler or Flair. |
The Miz should not be above anyone on that list.
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Nick Bockwinkel and Gary Hart should be much higher on that list.
I wouldn't have Cena in my top 20 either. |
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Sting had great charisma and was good, but he wouldnt be Top 50 all time based on his WCW career. Feel free to bring up a blowaway promo or two you feel should elevate him, its an interesting debate.
Agree with Seth wholeheartedly about Bockwinkel, he's utterly fantastic. |
Ric Flair over the Rock?
Also Pillman could be a lot lower as Mic Skills go he was ahead of the game |
10. Chris Jericho
9. CM Punk 8. Dusty Rhodes 7. Bobby Heenan 6. Mick Foley 5. Paul Heyman 4. Stone Cold Steve Austin 3. Roddy Piper 2. Ric Flair 1. The Rock I would have changed things just a little bit. I honestly think Heyman is top 5, and easily the best non-wrestler on the mic the sport has ever seen. |
As a pure orator Heyman is absolutely incredible. His post-Mania 30 Raw promo was an utter masterclass, and he's had so many good ones. They Heyman/Heenan debate is a fun one, I'd love to hear the argument for the Brain as I love him too.
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Based on entertainment value i would go
1. Heyman 2. Heenan 3. The Rock 4. Cornette 5. Flair 6. Austin 7. Punk Gets a little more difficult after that |
How is JBL that low? How is Scott Steiner even on the list at all?
Heenan is definitely Top 5. Angle should be around top 20. Rest looks about right. |
Was thinking Ventura should be higher, but who knows
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Edge on this list in general is ridiculous
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As is Triple H. But it's a WWE.com list so I'm not too surprised.
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Shawn Micheals ranks highER than Raven and Pillman this list is bullshit HBK over fucking RAVEN!
Raven was goddambn near a poet on the mic The Miz EVEN BEING ON THIS LIST IS lol material how is Kane not on here |
1. The Rock
2. SCSA 3. Heyman 4. Macho Man 5. Bubba Ray Dudley 6. Jericho 7. Shane Douglas 8. Mick Foley 9. CM Punk 10. Bray Wyatt |
Not sure about Scott Steiner on this list. Definitely think that Gino Hernandez deserves to be on it. He was great on the mic.
To say that Tazz is 5 spots ahead of JBL is laughable. JBL was way better than 43rd btw. It's also laughable to say that Edge was a better talker than The Million Dollar Man. |
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give me a brake damn it
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Lol.fucking New Jack is on the list. That's fantastic.
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No "Jumping" Jeff Farmer? :shifty:
Seriously, I'd go with this... 50. Edge 49. Mr. Ron Wright 48. Bray Wyatt 47. Shane McMahon 46. Lanny Poffo 45. Stephanie McMahon 44. Shawn Michaels 43. Austin Idol 42. New Jack 41. Jimmy Valiant 40. Dutch Mantell (I know Zeb Coulter is his WWE name, but fuck that, I'm going with Dutch.) 39. Triple H 38. The Grand Wizard of Wrestling 37. JBL 36. Brian Pillman 35. Thunderbolt Patterson 34. Kevin Sullivan 33. William Regal 32. Ernie Ladd 31. Kurt Angle 30. Rick Rude 29. Gary Hart 28. Nick Bockwinkel 27. Jesse Ventura 26. The Million Dollar Man 25. Terry Funk 24. Chris Jericho 23. Michael P.S. Hayes 22. Raven 21. Captain Lou Albano 20. John Cena 19. Jerry Lawler 18. Hulk Hogan 17. Harley Race 16. Arn Anderson 15. Superstar Billy Graham 14. CM Punk 13. Mr. McMahon 12. Jim Cornette 11. Macho Man Randy Savage 10. Jake Roberts 9. Dusty Rhodes 8. Jackie Fargo 7. Bobby The Brain Heenan 6. Mick Foley 5. Paul Heyman 4. Stone Cold Steve Austin 3. Roddy Piper 2. Ric Flair 1. The Rock |
Scott Steiner should be no. 1.
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