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Destination America dropping TNA this September.

Invoked their opt out clause they had with TNA for the tv deal. Informed TNA of the decision to cancel Impact a few days after the announcement of the show moving to Wednesdays.

Similar to Spike, Destination will honor the months remaining baring a sudden TNA collapse or shut down.

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Originally Posted by Observer/F4W

Just days before the move was announced, Destination America made the decision to cancel TNA Wrestling, with the time frame given at the end of the third quarter (roughly the last week of September, when the current television season ends). Key people at the Discovery Channel network were informed of the decision at that point.

The word internally was that while they considered the ratings good, the ratings were not good enough to justify the cost of the programming. The other problem was that so many regular station advertisers specifically did not want to advertise on the show.

It should be noted that when the word was sent out, it was stated specifically that TNA would remain on Friday nights, with original episodes, until that point, and informing people for the fall season plans for Friday nights. Just days later, they were moved to Wednesday.

The decision was meant to be kept secret, very much like Spike kept secret publicly last year its decision to drop TNA for months after the decision was made and reported. It doesn't serve the station or the promotion any good to publicly cancel the show this far in advance. The public acknowledgment was expected to come around the time the station listed its 2015-16 television season prime time lineup with the launch of up front advertising.

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Originally Posted by Observer/F4W

What is known is that Destination America reacts quickly to ratings. After the 3/13 episode, when the Friday show's numbers dropped to a new low, the decision was made to cancel the Saturday morning programming with the idea that eliminating the replay would help the Friday number, which is the only number they cared about. And Friday numbers did increase somewhat after that point. Eventually, they've dropped almost all their TNA programming except as far as time fillers, because of the difficulty in selling ads, and canceled all first run programming with the exception of the two hours of Impact airing multiple times on Friday nights. For the 5/8 show, the hope was going almost live would help deliver a big number, and Destination America also purchased an ad in USA Today to promote the show, thinking the added advertising and live would lead to an increased rating. Instead, the first episode did the second lowest number ever, and the replay, which is thought to be for the West Coast viewers in their prime time, did the all-time record low. Granted, that was more due to the NBA playoffs and going against a Cleveland Cavaliers game than anything else, but clearly the live hype meant nothing. Days later, the original decision to cancel was made.

Paid link from F4W: http://www.f4wonline.com/index.php?o...1hbmQtbW9yZQ==
Summarized part from SquaredCircle: http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircl...be_showing_on/

I don't see anybody network or cable who would pick them up. Unless it's some outfit we've never even heard of before.

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Originally Posted by ClockShot (Post 4635182)

I don't see anybody network or cable who would pick them up. Unless it's some outfit we've never even heard of before.

That's what Destination America was.

Maybe they could get picked up by Cable Channel 10 in Aurora, Illinois. But lol TNA prob isn't worthy.

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Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4635186)

That's what Destination America was.

I knew Destination America. Basically the channel all of Discovery's shows get aired on........with like 1-2 things of original programming.

Still don't get why Discovery took them on. :?:

What's the "source" of this "news"? Metlzer? prowrestlingscoops.com? I haven't seen it on TPWW news yet so I don't know if I believe it....

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Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 4635217)

What's the "source" of this "news"? Metlzer? prowrestlingscoops.com? I haven't seen it on TPWW news yet so I don't know if I believe it....

Actually, that's exactly why you SHOULD believe it...everyone knows Clark has no journalistic credibility...

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4635231)

Actually, that's exactly why you SHOULD believe it...everyone knows Clark has no journalistic credibility...

.... And the Wrestling Observer does?

Rest of the report from the Observer about the cancellation was Dixie Carter knowing well in advance of the decision but didn't bother to tell any of the wrestlers and likely most of management about it. Destination America sent representatives to help with the months remaining before TNA gets kicked off.

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Originally Posted by Rollermacka (Post 4635237)

.... And the Wrestling Observer does?

I honestly have no idea.

Maybe they can still do the shows. Just show them on one of those fancy new minute-long newsreels that are all the rage at the theaters.

I think their best bet is to move to the UK and they to work out a deal on the Velocity channel. Its sad that Destination America is giving up on TNA this fast. IMPACT was the channels highest rated show. What were they expecting to happen, I mean really your channel is not as well known as Spike and some people don't even get it that got Spike.

It's times like this when Vince pops in and buys everything.

They should go back to weekly ppvs

Maybe they can get a podcast or something and survive by crowd funding.

Can't wait for the Don West asset fire sale.

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Originally Posted by Droford (Post 4635319)

It's times like this when Vince pops in and buys everything.

Probably be Jeff Jarrett buying them back and merging with GFW.

Hope WWE buys they're library.

I could see Vince buying them and using them as another NXT. Could give talents another place to get away from NXT without coming to the main roster. A NXT vs. TNA storylineccould be cool if done the right way.

... but most likely, they get the tape library so they can acknowledge Sting and Hogan's entire careers, make more money off of Jeff Hardy, job or don't use most of the roster as no value is seen in them, but keep them on paper so Jarrett can't have them.

Bring back Kurt, Dudleys, Jeff, maybe see if Styles would sign since I know Vince wanted to sign him back when...just those guys, and I'd be happy.

the fat lady is clearing her throat.....

<font color=goldenrod>Yeah, this surely has to be the final nail in the coffin. No network worth a damn is going take them on.</font>

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Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4635442)

Bring back Kurt, Dudleys, Jeff, maybe see if Styles would sign since I know Vince wanted to sign him back when...just those guys, and I'd be happy.

James Storm and Bobby Roode deserve a debut, I know they are getting up there in age, but a certain former TNA talent showed up last night so it's not out of the picture.

Jeff Hardy is out with a broken leg cause of dirtbiking, he'd be ready for the Royal Rumble

I wonder what the cost of putting shows up on something like Hulu or Yahoo Screen or any of the other countless online streaming apps would be. Could be a lot more viable for something like TNA than an actual network show. :dunno:

WWE needs to pick up EC3, Mia Yim, and Austin Aries.

Back to the topic at hand... Seriously, I hope TNA lands on another network, Pro Wrestling needs more outlets for wrestlers to prefect their art. As much as I love NXT, I don't think that it should be the only go to place to make the money that you want. I think all of us can safely say that a reason for WWEs complacency in booking is because there is little competition. The only thing that's blowing WWE out of the water on a consistent basis is, in fact, NXT.

TNA had better and more, story lines form the women than NXT. I love the Dollhouse gimmick. The EC3 Campaign is very different, and I think it's pretty good. The Rising angle is okay.

In the end, I don't like to see people lose work opportunities as well as a promotion as decent as TNA miss out.

I would poach some of the Knockouts and jettison some of the Divas if I were in Vince's shoes.

Doubt Gail Kim and Christy Hemme would come back. I'm all for bringing Sky and Love aboard.

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Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4635189)

Maybe they could get picked up by Cable Channel 10 in Aurora, Illinois. But lol TNA prob isn't worthy.

Pretty sure I laughed entirely too hard at that... Now if you will excuse me my ADD brain demands I watch that movie...

For the love of all bring Kurt back to the WWE. He does no deserve to be known as a TNA wrestler.

I wonder why advertisers don't want their products advertised on TNA programming. Does TNA do racy things?

TNA is like Attitude Era lite...

The WWE should take Velvet but not Angelina Love.

MOST of the TNA roster could go to ROH and instantly get a gig. Also the knockouts can go to ROH and they could start a women's division if they wanted.

if TNA does fold, some might go to ROH, a small population would go to Lucha Underground, maybe a couple would tryout at NXT.

Like I said before, Mia Yim would be the first that WWE would accept from TNA because she was on NXT as enhancement talent. Any other knockout I would be surprised in seeing. Marti Bell would be a long shot though.

By way of male wrestlers, a good bit of them are WWE released talent. So Austin Aries, James Storm, Bobby Roode, and MAYBE Abyss could get in because they never set foot in WWE, not counting Aries voice work for Jacob Cass.

The question is, would they be willing to start over to try to get on TV?

They wouldn't have to start over. Pretty sure Owens and Joe have showed that you can come into NXT and not have your past erased.

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Originally Posted by Big Vic (Post 4635566)

I wonder why advertisers don't want their products advertised on TNA programming. Does TNA do racy things?

Advertisers don't like wrestling, especially wrestling fans. The stigma is that fans are cheap and it's not worth paying for ad spots that won't generate any revenue.

Look at how many wrestling fans stream content and you get why.

Not so much of an "Invasion" storyline, but would anyone be interested in a TNA-based faction in WWE?

It wouldn't have to be a full-blown TNA Invasion, but it would be similar to the Radicalz back in the day.

Maybe if they have a stable in NXT it would come off better.

I think it would work best as a NXT vs TNA angel.

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Originally Posted by Rammsteinmad (Post 4635625)

If I was booking, TNA Radicalz would be Roode, Storm, Eric Young and Aries.