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harmsway 03-01-2016 11:33 PM

as of right now, who on the main roster is totally over?
 
Discuss. Especially the cynick please, and shisen

Anybody Thrilla 03-01-2016 11:57 PM

Ambrose

Damian Rey 2.0 03-02-2016 12:00 AM

Gotta go with Ambrose. Taker is another one. Maybe, probably Lesnar.

Evil Vito 03-02-2016 12:04 AM

Ambrose, which makes the fact that he's not in the main event of WrestleMania as the beloved babyface in favor of a guy being pushed as a face despite half of the audience hating him retarded beyond measure.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-02-2016 12:13 AM

Ambrose is so much more over than Reigns it's ridiculous. I'd be curious to see what his merch numbers are. I recall seeing quite a bit of Ambrose gear at each ppv.

Lock Jaw 03-02-2016 12:24 AM

Ambrose
Sasha Banks
AJ Styles (has the advantage of being new)

Wishbone 03-02-2016 01:25 AM

Ambrose is the most over face on the roster right now, Sasha is the most over woman on the roster, and New Day are the most over heels.

Heisenberg 03-02-2016 01:33 AM

Sasha Banks capitalized on every aspect of what it is to win everyone over. In the time she spent at NXT she was on her heel shit. It spilled over to the main roster when she was forced to pair up with Tamina and Naomi. What a slap in the face, I would have paired her with the entertaining persona herself, Alicia Fox and had them run wild on all the Divas.

Seems like Paige's push ended quite some time ago. Either that or she's injured for real. She seems to have developed a huge ego and she is not to blame. Being put in such a powerful position that early in her life can fuck with anyone. She's literally a baby adult. She'll steer the ship back in a few years.

Lock Jaw 03-02-2016 01:35 AM

Would like to add The Miz to my list

Emperor Smeat 03-02-2016 01:41 AM

Lesnar
Ambrose
Sasha
Owens in regards to heels

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-02-2016 01:42 AM

-The New Day
-Dean Ambrose.
-AJ Styles
-Sasha Banks
-Kevin Owens (when allowed)
-Brock (when shows up)

Icame4Hookers 03-02-2016 05:07 AM

I think it's safe to say and count Shane McMahon, he's a big baby face right now...

I've always wondered did WWE get rid of Daniel Bryan because he was too over?

Hanso Amore 03-02-2016 06:20 AM

Ambrose is only as over as he is because people hate reigns as much as they do.

Ruien 03-02-2016 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lock Jaw (Post 4778245)
Would like to add The Miz to my list

Miz is so over. Really wish they would make him a tad bit better in the wins and loses though.

drave 03-02-2016 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 4778261)
Ambrose is only as over as he is because people hate reigns as much as they do.


Disagree. Even if that were the case, it doesn't matter why he is over, just that he is. As is the case with anyone who is "really over".

Ambrose has the intangible "IT factor" that is so often described when talking about great performers. His charisma is off the charts, unlike that of Reigns who is rather bland in comparison.

I will be searching youtube for any potential Ambrose//Heyman exchanges, as that will be pure fucking money.

Theo Dious 03-02-2016 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 4778261)
Ambrose is only as over as he is because people hate reigns as much as they do.

http://www.squaredcirclereviews.com/...14/06/Nope.jpg

BigCrippyZ 03-02-2016 09:54 AM

Ambrose,
Ambrose,
and Ambrose

Or, if you prefer...

The Titty Master,
The Titty Master,
and The Titty Master.

Plus Lesnar & Heyman when they're there.

Theo Dious 03-02-2016 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruien (Post 4778268)
Miz is so over. Really wish they would make him a tad bit better in the wins and loses though.

They ought to keep Miz out of the ring altogether. I'd love to see him in a Paul Heyman role as the head of a Dangerous Alliance type stable consisting of a repackaged Ziggler, a de-comedy-fied Axel, and Sandow. Maybe even Cesaro.

Damian Rey 2.0 03-02-2016 10:14 AM

Ambrose has been universally over since the SHIELD split. Even when Reigns was out of commission, or when he wasn't main eventing prior to Mania and the Rumble last year, the guy was red fucking hot. The fans could give a shit if Reigns is pushed or not when it comes to their love for Dean.

They have embraced the guy and cheer him like he's the fucking man.

Blonde Moment 03-02-2016 10:18 AM

Ambrose is so overm, hell he actually made the last 12 rounds movie the best of the series really

Hanso Amore 03-02-2016 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drave (Post 4778283)
Disagree. Even if that were the case, it doesn't matter why he is over, just that he is. As is the case with anyone who is "really over".

Ambrose has the intangible "IT factor" that is so often described when talking about great performers. His charisma is off the charts, unlike that of Reigns who is rather bland in comparison.

I will be searching youtube for any potential Ambrose//Heyman exchanges, as that will be pure fucking money.

That's not a knock on dean. He's been booked horribly. He's gotten over because people want something interesting and fun, not roman.

Theo Dious 03-02-2016 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian Rey 2.0 (Post 4778336)
Ambrose has been universally over since the SHIELD split..

Hey was also the most consistently overof the three during the Shield's run. There's a reason they gave him the US title singles run while Rollins & Reigns went the tag route, he was the one out of the three that could fly without a net.

Simple Fan 03-02-2016 11:14 AM

Ambrose is the most over on the roster. Guy connects with the audience. Not another singles guy that touches him in my opinion. New Day are way over and I would like to see them hold a singles title.

Stickman 03-02-2016 11:18 AM

Ambrose
Owens
Cesearo
Lesner
Aj Styles
Taker
Shane
charolette
Sasha
New Day
Dudleyz
HHH
And thats all

drave 03-02-2016 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewAllenHanso (Post 4778340)
That's not a knock on dean. He's been booked horribly. He's gotten over because people want something interesting and fun, not roman.


Even with being booked horribly, he is over. It would make more sense by saying "He's gotten over because he is interesting and fun."

Because he would still be the same persona regardless of who is being pushed for the championship.

Now, if he were in a "bloodfeud" with Reigns, I would say that he is over because of a general dislike for Reigns, but outside of that triple threat, their actions haven't really impacted anything the other does.

Hanso Amore 03-02-2016 12:21 PM

If reigns wasn't such a monumental flop and there was a legit number one baby face I don't think Ambrose would be nearly as over as he is right now. He's the anti reigns in the way punk and Bryan were the anti cenA

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2016 06:54 PM

Ambrose gets cheers, but is he really that over, guys? Listen to his reactions on RAW this week compared to, say, one of Daniel Bryan's pops.

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2016 06:55 PM

Brock Lesnar
Paul Heyman
Shane McMahon
Vince McMahon
The Undertaker

The list is pretty small.

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2016 06:55 PM

John Cena is over, but not entirely in the way they want him to be.

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2016 06:55 PM

The New Day and Kevin Owens are also pretty over, but sometimes you get chirps. They could be over. Oh, and Bray Wyatt.

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2016 06:56 PM

AJ Styles is pretty over too.

Mr. Nerfect 03-02-2016 06:57 PM

I think the problem with Dean Ambrose isn't that he's not over, per se, but that people know they can't really invest in him winning the big one. He's getting that also-ran stank like Dolph Ziggler. But if he was to win the title or something, I think we'd see the switch flip a little more.

harmsway 03-02-2016 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4778530)
Ambrose gets cheers, but is he really that over, guys? Listen to his reactions on RAW this week compared to, say, one of Daniel Bryan's pops.

So one bad crowd and he isn't over anymore?

Theo Dious 03-02-2016 09:06 PM

Ambrose showcases the difference between being over and being hot. The crowd is behind him but they aren't being given anything to go nuts over. He's hovering right now in this odd place where the crowd doesn't know if he's going to be Austin or Foley. As soon as he'said given his moments the pops will come.

Theo Dious 03-02-2016 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noid (Post 4778534)
AJ Styles is pretty over too.

I'm interested to see if it lasts.

harmsway 03-02-2016 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Dious (Post 4778565)
I'm interested to see if it lasts.

It wont

Theo Dious 03-02-2016 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harmsway (Post 4778574)
It wont

I concur but I was trying to be optimistic for a change. Personally I think he'll be in a Ziggler spot a year from now.

Stickman 03-02-2016 11:40 PM

Bray Wyatt is over, he just needs to win a feud every nowand then.

XL 03-03-2016 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Dious (Post 4778565)
I'm interested to see if it lasts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by harmsway (Post 4778574)
It wont

Quote:

Originally Posted by Theo Dious (Post 4778608)
I concur but I was trying to be optimistic for a change. Personally I think he'll be in a Ziggler spot a year from now.

Do you guys think that'll be down to him rather than the booking?

harmsway 03-03-2016 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XL (Post 4778936)
Do you guys think that'll be down to him rather than the booking?

I think it will last until the fickle fans stop getting hyped for his theme song, and notice he isn't great at promos


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