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Jordan 03-14-2016 04:45 PM

Most Underrated Worker
 
With this years HOF we have the opprotunity once again to reflect on the careers of those inducted. To me there is one guy who is getting his due, but the shame of it is that he is not here to enjoy the final glory.

This thread is to discuss wrestlers who work was generally underrated by the promoter, the fans, or yourself.

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Big Bossman was such a great worker for his size and his name should always be mentioned with the likes of Bam Bam Bigelow and Vader. He sold like a boss (no pun intended) and his work was snug and looked legit. He could also take a bump like a motherfucker for a guy with his build. His promo's were strong and to the point, but he had a great voice and realistic intensity.

I undervalued Bossman as a kid and now see just how good he was when looking back.

Cheers Bossman, Cheers.

Jordan 03-14-2016 04:46 PM

Talk about Bossman or workers you undervalued as a kid, or think were undervalued by their company.

Bad News Gertner 03-14-2016 05:13 PM

Been watching a lot of Smokey Mountain lately and man were Tracy Smothers and the Dirty White Boy ever great. DWB was T.L Hopper and Uncle Cletus and Smothers was Freddie Joy Floyd in the WWF. What a waste. Both were such a great promo and awesome in the ring. Dirty White Boy reminded me of Robert Fuller on the mic.

Mr. Nerfect 03-14-2016 07:12 PM

Love the love those guys are getting. :y:

Mr. Nerfect 03-14-2016 07:13 PM

This isn't an "all-time" pick or anything like that, but Primo/Diego of Los Matadores is such an awesome worker. Even though he doesn't really matter, he manages to get himself over with the quality of his work.

Jordan 03-14-2016 11:25 PM

I've drank with Dirty White Boy in a bar once. I was driving through New Market TN when I saw a wrestling ring set up and a battle royal happening on the side of the road. It was hilarious. So I pulled in just in time to see Dirty White Boy clean house and fire up and throw out like 4 guys. After, I talked to him and reminded him of when he at the turd at Summerslam in the pool and he laughed and invited me and my friend to The Full Moon for some beers. I bought him 3 beers. He was already drunk when I got there and he ruled the fucking roost, everyone calling him champ, and everyone called him "Dirty White Boy". Like, "Hey Dirty White Boy you doing okay", or "Isn't that right Dirty White Boy". Fucking hilarious. I drank with TL Hopper.

Bad News Gertner 03-14-2016 11:30 PM

Haha awesome

Mr. Nerfect 03-15-2016 09:33 AM

Legendary

Nicky Fives 03-15-2016 10:04 AM

Billy Kidman. Not the highest of high-flyers from WCW's Cruiserweight division when competing with the likes of Rey Mysterio, Juventud, etc. but could definitely hold his own against them, as well as technically against the Malenko's, Benoit's, Raven's he competed against....

And he was pretty over for a decent period of time....

Hanso Amore 03-15-2016 11:46 AM

You mean the human botch machine

Hanso Amore 03-15-2016 11:47 AM

Hopper probably made 20 bucks on the show and squeezed free beers out of you fucking marks

Jordan 03-15-2016 02:09 PM

Yeah that is exactly right, if you wouldn't pay 20 bucks to drink with DIRTY WHITE BOY then you ain't no rasslin fan.

The best part honesty.... driving down highway in redneckville TN, and there's a fucking wrestling ring set up and a battle royal happening ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD lmao... goddamn. This was just before smart phones so I don't think my phone had a camera, or I didn't think to use it if it did. I wish the whole evening was documented.

Jordan 03-15-2016 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky Fives (Post 4783627)
Billy Kidman. Not the highest of high-flyers from WCW's Cruiserweight division when competing with the likes of Rey Mysterio, Juventud, etc. but could definitely hold his own against them, as well as technically against the Malenko's, Benoit's, Raven's he competed against....

And he was pretty over for a decent period of time....

I'm not sure I agree. I do agree that Billy was really awesome... but I think most people knew that, thus not making him underrated. But I could be wrong, if you think so there has to be some value to it.

Honestly my favorite Kidman program was with Hogan. I really enjoyed that and I remember feeling WCW was getting pretty fresh around that time. There was some interesting changes happening, I think that was during the Russo/Bischoff team era. I might be wrong. I liked the night Russo restarted WCW, I was so excited for a complete reboot.... but it just got worse and worse

Jordan 03-15-2016 04:03 PM

Okay my next mention could be controversial to an extent. But nobody thinks this was a bad team by any means... I just think they should be front level Hall of Famer's but I never read them mentioned for consideration anywhere...

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The Steiner Brothers were so innovative to today style of working. No tag team before them that I can name utilized such a pro-am strong style in such an awesome way. There are matches where you will see a level of sloppiness but to that I think comes a level of reality that so many of us like. I hope the Steiner go into WWE HOF while they are both still alive.

Big Vic 03-15-2016 04:08 PM

Cesaro?

Bad News Gertner 03-15-2016 05:51 PM

I wouldn't call the Steiners and Cesaro under-rated workers. Steiners are probably a top 5 of all tine tag team and Cesaro is pretty highly thought of as well.

Jordan 03-15-2016 06:42 PM

I think they are underrated in the WWE universe. Need to be first ballot HOF.

Bad News Gertner 03-15-2016 06:47 PM

Koko B Ware was highly under-rated.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-15-2016 07:22 PM

Lex Luger

Fignuts 03-15-2016 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad News Gertner (Post 4783898)
Koko B Ware was highly under-rated.

This.

Every time I hear someone talk shit about his hof induction, I cringe.

Fignuts 03-15-2016 07:44 PM

Also, Kidman was garbage compared to his peers. Sloppy as fuck. Worst shooting star ever.

Bad News Gertner 03-15-2016 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fignuts HD Edition (Post 4783923)
This.

Every time I hear someone talk shit about his hof induction, I cringe.

Cornette mentioned that Koko B Ware and Bobby Eaton's tag team in Memphis was the best tag team he's ever seen.

The Condor 03-16-2016 11:35 PM

I think Val Venis was a pretty damn good mechanic that was always overshadowed by his gimmick, be it the pornstar, Right to Censor and even as Bischoff's chief of staff. By the time he could have been legit in 2003-04, there was no coming back and he was just a JTTS. But the dude could always work a good match.

harmsway 03-17-2016 01:57 AM

Norman smiley in his hardcore phase. That was good stuff

KIRA 03-17-2016 02:26 AM

I honestly feel like Sheamus does not get the credit he deserves.

#1-norm-fan 03-17-2016 06:31 AM

Johnny Curtis is the most underrated wrestler in the history of our sport.

SlickyTrickyDamon 03-18-2016 01:09 AM

Jacques Rougeau.

harmsway 03-18-2016 01:32 AM

Rougeau was tough with a roll of quarters

Jari 03-18-2016 06:57 AM

Even by myself until NXT London, it has to be the Revival (Dash & Dawson)

In my mind they were just placeholders until Jordan & Gable had been built up sufficiently to become Tag Team Champions. As it turns out they're both excellent in the ring and they carry that old school gimmick so well. Can definitely see them on the main roster now.

Nicky Fives 03-18-2016 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Condor (Post 4784444)
I think Val Venis was a pretty damn good mechanic that was always overshadowed by his gimmick, be it the pornstar, Right to Censor and even as Bischoff's chief of staff. By the time he could have been legit in 2003-04, there was no coming back and he was just a JTTS. But the dude could always work a good match.

Very good answer.

Jordan 03-18-2016 01:58 PM

I thought of Val as well. I will always remember his match with Rikishi in a Cage, I think it was Fully Loaded 99. Too bad he got saddled with the porn star gimmick, while it did get him over, it wasn't a main player role.

thekrow 03-18-2016 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlickyTrickyDamon (Post 4784965)
Jacques Rougeau.

Speaking of Jacques Rougeau, his student, (Jacques Rougeau trained Swede Savard) Triple S, aka Swede Savard is definitely underrated. Swede puts on great match after match in CHW but no one ever calls him a legend or a staple of CHW like they do to stars like Matt Rage or Miniak.

Bad News Gertner 03-18-2016 06:36 PM

I wouldn't call Swede under-rated. He held the CHW title for a long time

weather vane 03-20-2016 01:35 AM

The Rougeau Brothers

Bad News Gertner 03-20-2016 07:35 AM

Leaping Lanny Poffo was a hell of a worker. He was busting.out Swantons/Hurracanrana/moonsaults in 1986 WWF was most workers didn't leave their feet.

Maluco 03-20-2016 12:08 PM

Ken Shamrock? We have seen how hard it was to transition to wrestling for legit guys like Severn and Tank Abbott. Even Brock, the version we have now, is stiff and just seems to smack people and toss them around (not that it isn't entertaining)

But Shamrock just appeared to "get" professional wrestling. He was smooth, he looked safe, he had quite a few good matches with the company and he was really over. Guys like him and Val were important in attitude era, holding up the midcard and supporting the top guys, but they are often not acknowledged for it

Bad News Gertner 03-20-2016 12:45 PM

Shamrock used to wrestle in the late 80's/early 90's.

Swiss Ultimate 03-20-2016 01:25 PM

Chris Benoit. You know why.

weather vane 03-20-2016 01:57 PM

Rick Martel

The Condor 03-20-2016 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spilchuk (Post 4785651)
The Rougeau Brothers

Absolutely. I feel like Raymond's early retirement never allowed as many people to dig him as they did with Jaques.


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