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#BROKEN Hasney 03-18-2016 09:46 PM

Are WWE going to fail in pulling the trigger on their Wrestlemania Main Event plans for the 3rd year?
 
For the past 3 years, crowds have more represented a smark crowd rather than cheering for who the company wants them to cheer for. It's probably a consequence of WWE getting less popular that the fans left are the hardcore ones, but the last 2 WMs, it's been heavily rumored that the inital plan was hijacked by the crowd:

WM30: A returning face Batista from Hollywood to face his old Evolution partner Orton and take the title. Batista ends up having to turn heel and bryan gets shoved in there to win the title.

WM31: Allegedly supposed to be Romans coming out party, taking down the beast Brock. Seth does the run in with MITB and picks up the win.

So what this year? They don't have a get out of jail free card with MITB and the one guy they've built up enough to be thrust in that spot is Ambrose and he's already booked. Will they risk the winning face that's supposed to be the biggest star being booed as Wrestlemania goes off the air? Will they risk the almost certain boos the Raw after Mania? I don't see them having a get of jail free card this year like they did the past two, so this is going to be great to watch.

Shisen Kopf 03-18-2016 09:52 PM

Yeah, teh wwe suxx

#BROKEN Hasney 03-18-2016 10:05 PM

Do they sux more than Notre Dame?

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-18-2016 10:10 PM

In this instance it seems pretty deadset

Shisen Kopf 03-18-2016 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney (Post 4785293)
Do they sux more than Notre Dame?

Notre Dame is teh ultimate suxx

slik 03-18-2016 10:31 PM

Roman should lose via outside interference from Henry Cavill...."There can be only one SuperMan, Ramen"

good cross promotion...

DAMN iNATOR 03-18-2016 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4785298)
Notre Dame is teh ultimate suxx

ZOMG NO WAY!!!1111!!!

DAMN iNATOR 03-18-2016 10:39 PM

Seriously, though, I feel like fans are definitely getting screwed over this year and Reigns will win, unless they call an absolutely INSANE last-srcond Hail Mary audible and make Ambrose v. Brock a #1 Contender's match in which the winner is added to the main event and it becomes a triple threat with Ambrose getting a miracle win that way. That's the only way I see it going down at all, and the odds on that are pretty slim.

#BROKEN Hasney 03-18-2016 10:55 PM

Honestly hope no audibles are called. I'll be putting on a betting slip accumilator and it will involve Reigns winning. I lost out on a four figure profit last year because of the WILDCARD Seth Rollins. Plus, I want to see if a Wrestlemania can finish with a face being booed.

Jordan 03-19-2016 10:56 AM

Well the way I see it there are basically two options.

1. The McMahon way - Roman wins and they force his baby face push to the moon as planned. People boo, but it is what it is and we have 6-7 years of Roman being forced down our throats as THE GUY until he starts to get over just like Cena.

2. Roman turns heel - It's an option. I'd say if it were to happen it would involve Shane McMahon somehow who would have to turn strong heel in the Cell against Taker, and somehow come off like he's screwing Vince.

Either we will be surprised or it's going down the way we all predict. I'm hoping for a surprise. There is a possibility in every main event we could get interference from anyone from Rock, Austin, Cena, Rollins, Vince, even Caesaro. Whatever happens I am hoping Dean gets to go over Brock so that he is positioned as the number one baby face either against a fresh heel Roman or the obvious second to Roman. You can't turn Dean heel right now, that would be a horrible option. He's such a good baby face, I just don't see anyone booing him.

Emperor Smeat 03-19-2016 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Hasney (Post 4785285)
Will they risk the winning face that's supposed to be the biggest star being booed as Wrestlemania goes off the air? Will they risk the almost certain boos the Raw after Mania? I don't see them having a get of jail free card this year like they did the past two, so this is going to be great to watch.

Yes and Yes. Pretty much have to go all in with Reigns ascension at Mania without making the past year or so look like a joke.

Dealing with the crowd is pretty easy since they can just pump the post-celebration music to be louder or dub in cheers for replays. Reigns' mega-star status though is getting in real danger of becoming this gen's Diesel in terms of a huge failure as a top star.

ClockShot 03-19-2016 04:00 PM

2 outcomes I forsee.

1. The obvious. Roman Reigns wins fair and square. We're all gonna have to deal with it for the long haul.

2. Roman Reigns wins, but the title run is short as he drops it to a returning Seth Rollins. Who never lost it in the first place because he gave it up due to his injury. He's gotta be close to getting back, right?

I'm trying to think of how it would work IF Shane beats The Undertaker and controls Raw.

Jordan 03-19-2016 04:30 PM

It seems as though somehow Taker will take the loss and sacrifice his record to stick it to Vince McMahon. But, that would negate any kind of crazy ass match, unless Vince does something during the match that repulses Taker to the point of self sacrifice (possibly by setting himself on fire).

Simple Fan 03-19-2016 06:54 PM

Could see them have HHH win and have him and Rollins for the title after Mania.

Jordan 03-19-2016 07:58 PM

That would be awesome.

Blonde Moment 03-19-2016 08:20 PM

Problably be a clean win for the Taker but just in case....

Match order

Taker/Shane
Ambrose/Lesnar
HHH/Reigns

Something happens in the Taker/Shane match to give Shane the win and build a Taker match for next year. Maybe Kane. As Shane is the man in charge he inserts the winner of the Lesnar/Ambrose match into the main event. Ambrose wins after taking a Hbk Superkick and a pedigree from Rollins on HHH to "even" things out.
- If Rollins can't do the pedigree just have it so Hbk gets the wrong man and Ambrose capitalizes for the win

DAMN iNATOR 03-19-2016 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fragile X (Post 4785495)
It seems as though somehow Taker will take the loss and sacrifice his record to stick it to Vince McMahon. But, that would negate any kind of crazy ass match, unless Vince does something during the match that repulses Taker to the point of self sacrifice (possibly by setting himself on fire).

So you want a hybrid HiaC AND Inferno match for WM then? Very bold, I like it. :shifty:

#1-norm-fan 03-20-2016 01:05 AM

Reigns is probably gonna win.

On the off chance Triple H does retain though, I can see Shane winning and then having a match against HHH at Extreme Rules. Title for Raw ownership. Since huge, mega match stipulations in WWE seem to last for about a month, Shane taking over Raw for and then losing it a month later and disappearing again would make sense.

weather vane 03-20-2016 01:22 AM

Do we see like an all star roster run in during the Shane Taker match?

Austin, Rock, Foley, HBK, Hogan, etc all run in and beat down Taker? They are sick of today's WWE so they want Shane in charge of RAW? Not the worst idea I have ever had.

BigCrippyZ 03-20-2016 01:28 AM

There's just no legit, believable, good result coming out of WM at all this year. I may still watch but so far I'm legit not looking forward to it. If I miss it this year, I miss it. Honestly, don't care. Not even sure when (weeks away or the exact date) it is this year.

Joe Kerr 03-21-2016 08:32 AM

I can see HHH holding the title until Seth Rollins comes back and beats him

Schlomey 03-21-2016 09:08 AM

This is some options:

1. ROMAN WINS CLEAN - Roman wins clean. Dean Ambrose comes out much like the Eddie/Rey celebration but Dean turns heel and ends the show getting a mix of heat and stealing his spotlight. The next night on Raw, Ambrose would get a Stone Cold sized pop where he is a cheered heel for taking out the "new face" of the WWE.

2. HHH WINS - HHH wins because of a mid-match Dean heel turn. Dean gets revealed as the next "guy". Since he would be aligned with the bad guys in this situation it would be a little less Stone Cold pop and more of a mix and probably a lot more...meh than woo. And after Roadblock this seems like a very unlikely scenario.

Also remember that Seth Rollins could easily be making a run-in appearance as I've read he is almost done rehabbing.

While, on paper, the main event sucks Chyna sized labias, they could reallly book it well....if Roadblock meant anything it was just that even with Raw level matches, the booking of the matches can really elevate things to make them feel special.

The CyNick 03-23-2016 04:26 PM

Daniel Bryan winning the title was always the plan (watch the TV for evidence).

Seth Rollins winning the title was always the plan sometime between Mania and the next MITB.

This year's main event has been locked in since November.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-23-2016 04:28 PM

What's the main event result the cynick?

DAMN iNATOR 03-23-2016 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4785647)
There's just no legit, believable, good result coming out of WM at all this year. I may still watch but so far I'm legit not looking forward to it. If I miss it this year, I miss it. Honestly, don't care. Not even sure when (weeks away or the exact date) it is this year.

Sunday, April 3rd, 2016.

Anybody Thrilla 03-23-2016 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4787306)
Daniel Bryan winning the title was always the plan (watch the TV for evidence).

Seth Rollins winning the title was always the plan sometime between Mania and the next MITB.

This year's main event has been locked in since November.

Rollins himself said he didn't know he was winning the title until halfway through WM32.

Ol Dirty Dastard 03-23-2016 05:16 PM

But Thrilla...... Vince doesn't tell his talent the plans.

CyNick educated me on this. If there's one thing he knows, it's Vince.

Shadrick 03-23-2016 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4787306)
Daniel Bryan winning the title was always the plan (watch the TV for evidence).

Seth Rollins winning the title was always the plan sometime between Mania and the next MITB.

This year's main event has been locked in since November.

Daniel Bryan himself said that him winning the title wasn't the plan until February.

Shisen Kopf 03-23-2016 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR (Post 4787314)
Sunday, April 3rd, 2016.

March 34, 2016

Corkscrewed 03-23-2016 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CyNick (Post 4787306)
This year's main event has been locked in since November.

I'll agree with that part. But with Seth getting hurt and their seemingly just swapping Seth with Rollins, there hasn't been that proper slow build to make people care about HHH vs ___. If Rollins hadn't gotten injured, I think the year-long build from Authority Fresh Face to Authority Thorn would have been a pretty good example of long term booking and commitment.

BigCrippyZ 03-23-2016 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4787389)
Daniel Bryan himself said that him winning the title wasn't the plan until February.

Yes, but according to CyNick, Vince doesn't tell talent what the real plans for them are. CyNick clings to this delusion despite the fact that Batista said the plan when he was asked to come back was for Batista to come back as a face, win the Rumble and go on to beat Orton for the title in the WM main event. In addition, Bryan has said he was told the plans for him for WM was a match against Sheamus.

Ultra Mantis 03-23-2016 11:18 PM

Don't forget CM Punk vs HHH was going to get Bryan into the main event because CM Punk would make HHH agree to a stipulation that if he won, Bryan would get to be in the main event for some reason.

CM Punk, Bryan, Batista, Sheamus, Orton, Billy Kidman and maybe even HHH were all unaware of this plan. Only Vince and CyNick know the truth.

BigCrippyZ 03-24-2016 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 4787435)
Don't forget CM Punk vs HHH was going to get Bryan into the main event because CM Punk would make HHH agree to a stipulation that if he won, Bryan would get to be in the main event for some reason.

Wait, so for some reason, Bryan was going to face Sheamus, AND HHH was going to face Punk and for some other reason, if Punk won then Bryan would go into the WM main event?

Holy shit snacks does that make no sense whatsoever and is that a way convoluted plan to get Bryan into the main event. Why not just have Bryan win the Rumble or even a #1 contenders match?

Oh yeah, CyNick/Vince logic. :lol:

The CyNick 03-24-2016 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla (Post 4787322)
Rollins himself said he didn't know he was winning the title until halfway through WM32.

I said it was planned somewhere between Mania and MITB. they decided to pull the trigger at Mania. Do I know how long that was the plan? No. Does anyone outside Vince's inner circle? No.

The CyNick 03-24-2016 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrick (Post 4787389)
Daniel Bryan himself said that him winning the title wasn't the plan until February.

Workers working. More at 11.

The CyNick 03-24-2016 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4787419)
Yes, but according to CyNick, Vince doesn't tell talent what the real plans for them are. CyNick clings to this delusion despite the fact that Batista said the plan when he was asked to come back was for Batista to come back as a face, win the Rumble and go on to beat Orton for the title in the WM main event. In addition, Bryan has said he was told the plans for him for WM was a match against Sheamus.

And then Roman Reigns said he didn't know the finish until 31 weekend. So I guess Roman doesn't read the future scripts that Vince sends out, but Batista and Bryan do. Go with what fits your current argument.

The CyNick 03-24-2016 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Mantis (Post 4787435)
Don't forget CM Punk vs HHH was going to get Bryan into the main event because CM Punk would make HHH agree to a stipulation that if he won, Bryan would get to be in the main event for some reason.

CM Punk, Bryan, Batista, Sheamus, Orton, Billy Kidman and maybe even HHH were all unaware of this plan. Only Vince and CyNick know the truth.

You mean like the way Daniel Bryan hijacked RAW and got into the title mix himself? That exact scenario would have still played out, just with Punk v HHH being the play in match and Sheamus acting as the heavy to injure Bryan "just in case". Plays off Punk wanting to screw over HHH, plays off Sheamus beating Bryan in 10 seconds, and sets up a future Punk v Bryan program where Punk says I put you in that spot.

The CyNick 03-24-2016 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCrippyZ (Post 4787447)
Wait, so for some reason, Bryan was going to face Sheamus, AND HHH was going to face Punk and for some other reason, if Punk won then Bryan would go into the WM main event?

Holy shit snacks does that make no sense whatsoever and is that a way convoluted plan to get Bryan into the main event. Why not just have Bryan win the Rumble or even a #1 contenders match?

Oh yeah, CyNick/Vince logic. :lol:

For the same reason they did what they did.

Batista was positioned as the "Vince pick" to win the Rumble. The fans wanted Bryan. WWE had been telling a story of the Authority screwing and belittling Bryan since Summerslam. They use the "YES Movement" (get your tshirts at WWESHOP now! ) and the whole hijack RAW thing to force The Authority's hand. The whole angle was a way to make the fans feel like they changed something. But if you pay attention to the TV you see it was the plan all along.

The CyNick 03-24-2016 02:39 PM

For the record, the thing with Punk was just a theory based on how TV was lining up before the Rumble. It's entirely possible Punk and HHH had nothing to do with Bryan, and Sheamus vs Bryan was there to get Bryan into the main event.

GD 03-24-2016 02:45 PM

If they intend to give the strap to Roman, it would be beneficial to not have them close the night. Then again, I would smh vehemently if Shane McMahon and Undertaker went on last.


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