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DAMN iNATOR 04-04-2016 03:50 PM

Rate WrestleMania 32 and discuss
 
Rate last night's show 1-10, and if you feel like doing so, discuss why you gave it the rating you did.

DAMN iNATOR 04-04-2016 03:53 PM

Gave it a 6. Definitely not the worst of all-time, but very underwhelming.

Simple Fan 04-04-2016 04:30 PM

Agree 6 as well. Just an ok show with a few questionable booking decisions. Didn't help any that NXT Takeover was a 9/10.

harmsway 04-04-2016 04:46 PM

Went with the classic 4/10. Loved the opener. Loved the women's match. Every other match played out how you would do it if you already had an a in the class and you had to turn in a project for a final. No creativity and was lackluster from lesnar ambrose to the cell to the "main" event. And the rock cena shit was a ridiculous way to incorporate them and the wyatts

Theo Dious 04-04-2016 05:06 PM

The matches themselves were veryou good. Dean vs Brock felt a little shortchanged. The battle royal was awful. Too many wtf moments with winners.

Corndad 04-04-2016 07:35 PM

Went 5 . 3 of that was for the Woman's Title Match and the other 2 is from Shane's bump.

Shisen Kopf 04-04-2016 07:44 PM

I gave it a 3. It was pretty terrible but Tatanka saved it.

road doggy dogg 04-04-2016 07:45 PM

From a wrestling standpoint, most of the matches were good enough but the booking decisions seemed a bit off all night.

UT/Shane was pretty awful and the spot, while incredible, felt forced. Without that, very substandard match and no way Shane should look as strong as he did by kicking out of Last Ride etc.

New Day/LoN felt bland as hell, and the after stuff (which was awesome) didn't help any of the current roster. If you're going for the nostalgia pop, don't do it at the expense of your only somewhat credible heels.

Main event was unbearable.

Women's match was great. Really disliked Flair being involved in the finish but it didn't detract that much from a stellar match. Match of the night easily.

Battle royale was good for what it was. The Shaq thing was a nice spot and, aside from Sandow, didn't really detract from a lot of the spotlight on the actual wrestlers. The big guys were eliminated quick and other guys had their moments. DDP still looks great. Awesome to see Corbin get the win but Henry was the guy to win it IMO. Feel like that was a missed opportunity for him to get a swan song moment.

I enjoyed Styles/Jericho even though we've seen this before. Solid match. I'm not as upset with the finish as some are. Let's be honest, Jericho has been putting guys over for years now, he was "due" for a win so I get why he wins. Styles is still fresh enough and over enough that this shouldn't hurt him too much going forward and can actually probably benefit him in the long run by putting a chip on his shoulder etc. Plus it gives Jericho some much-needed credibility as of late for whatever his next program is (assuming his program with Styles is over, which it may not be)

Rock stuff was absolutely awful.

Preshow stuff was better than I expected.

IC ladder match was good. Ryder winning is a cool "feel-good" moment but seems poorly booked. Granted, if the plan was to have Neville win it then this is somewhat more justifiable (he's essentially taking his spot). I mean, it wasn't The Miz, so I'm okay with it.


Overall..... eh. I'll give it a 5. Honestly, the length of the show is working against it here. You don't have a near-7 hour event that is that devoid of "big moments" like they did. If they condensed things down a bit then I'd be a little more forgiving. Especially contrasted to the 2-hour event Friday that IMO absolutely crushed this in every single way.

DAMN iNATOR 04-04-2016 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shisen Kopf (Post 4795107)
I gave it a 3. It was pretty terrible but Tatanka saved it.

Moment of the night.

Shisen Kopf 04-04-2016 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by road doggy dogg (Post 4795111)
From a wrestling standpoint, most of the matches were good enough but the booking decisions seemed a bit off all night.

UT/Shane was pretty awful and the spot, while incredible, felt forced. Without that, very substandard match and no way Shane should look as strong as he did by kicking out of Last Ride etc.

New Day/LoN felt bland as hell, and the after stuff (which was awesome) didn't help any of the current roster. If you're going for the nostalgia pop, don't do it at the expense of your only somewhat credible heels.

Main event was unbearable.

Women's match was great. Really disliked Flair being involved in the finish but it didn't detract that much from a stellar match. Match of the night easily.

Battle royale was good for what it was. The Shaq thing was a nice spot and, aside from Sandow, didn't really detract from a lot of the spotlight on the actual wrestlers. The big guys were eliminated quick and other guys had their moments. DDP still looks great. Awesome to see Corbin get the win but Henry was the guy to win it IMO. Feel like that was a missed opportunity for him to get a swan song moment.

I enjoyed Styles/Jericho even though we've seen this before. Solid match. I'm not as upset with the finish as some are. Let's be honest, Jericho has been putting guys over for years now, he was "due" for a win so I get why he wins. Styles is still fresh enough and over enough that this shouldn't hurt him too much going forward and can actually probably benefit him in the long run by putting a chip on his shoulder etc. Plus it gives Jericho some much-needed credibility as of late for whatever his next program is (assuming his program with Styles is over, which it may not be)

Rock stuff was absolutely awful.

Preshow stuff was better than I expected.

IC ladder match was good. Ryder winning is a cool "feel-good" moment but seems poorly booked. Granted, if the plan was to have Neville win it then this is somewhat more justifiable (he's essentially taking his spot). I mean, it wasn't The Miz, so I'm okay with it.


Overall..... eh. I'll give it a 5. Honestly, the length of the show is working against it here. You don't have a near-7 hour event that is that devoid of "big moments" like they did. If they condensed things down a bit then I'd be a little more forgiving. Especially contrasted to the 2-hour event Friday that IMO absolutely crushed this in every single way.

I give your review of Rasslemania a 4/7. TL;DR but the effort, oh the effort was there!

Shisen Kopf 04-04-2016 08:25 PM

I give my review of your review a perfect 4.5/7

Shisen Kopf 04-04-2016 08:29 PM

Ok, I read Road Doggy Dogg's review and now I give it a 3.5/7.

dronepool 04-04-2016 09:24 PM

5.

WrestleMania 32 sucked. Nothing truly memorable happened. Nothing changed story line wise. Nobody got screwed over. I'm usually excited about Raw after WrestleMania, since every Raw has been good after WrestleMania for a while, but not this time. I'm watching Gotham and Better Call Saul and after RAW airs, I might catch it online or Hulu. If WWE wants new WWE Network subscribers, last nights free WrestleMania isn't going to help, it's only helping me want to cancel my subscription. It's only a matter of time until I get annoyed enough.

*Fuck, no new Gotham this week :(

johnsmagic 04-06-2016 06:41 AM

When was the last great Mania from start to finish ? Wrestlemania 24 in my opinion

Heisenberg 04-06-2016 08:42 AM

I almost left during the main event, no one attending an event of this magnitude should ever feel like that. Tatanka got the jobber entrance, totally disrespectable.




I crossed a lot of things off my bucket list going there so it'll always have a place in my heart.

Blue Demon 04-06-2016 08:53 AM

I gave it a 6....not terrible, but pretty far from good. Main event was god awful. While it was no 17, it certainly wasn't a 9, 11 or 13.

#1-norm-fan 04-06-2016 09:09 AM

For what was hyped as the biggest WrestleMania of all time, there wasn't really anything memorable to come from it outside of Shane's spot. But considering how lackluster the card was, it was as advertised. Some good matches but nothing earthshattering. Went 5/10. Pretty meh.

slik 04-06-2016 09:24 AM

I considered leaving during the main event as well but stayed b/c I thought there might a twist. I enjoyed the rest of the show, it's a fun experience live, even if the booking decisions are a bit strange.

I'd give it a 7.5 out of 10.

Theo Dious 04-06-2016 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #1-wwf-fan (Post 4796241)
For what was hyped as the biggest WrestleMania of all time, there wasn't really anything memorable to come from it.

If they don't drop the ball on it, I feel like years down the line it will be remembered as the night Women's wrestling became a real thing in WWE.

Heisenberg 04-06-2016 01:45 PM

Everyone's gripes on here are pretty legit after some consideration. I went there solely to drink beer and see the Attitude Era guys, some of them slipped from my grasp in their heyday. I could play the blind eye sheep fan and say it was the best, but at the same time it could have been a whole lot better in the match department.


All I know is I had a fantastic time drinking beer, saw some TPWW folks for the first time and cut a really big promo in the parking lot about how Becky Lynch deserved to be at the biggest show of the year. Everyone there was happy, no one was being a smarky little pissant and gave the card a chance until Roman came out. That was understandable. I just don't see why we all have to suffer and the people that WWE tries to please don't even watch the damn shows. I think that's why Netflix is booming. They have no filters and don't even need nudity or highly controversial content all the time to get over.


Last thing, I seriously thought a riot was going to break out when Roman won. It ended up the complete opposite, the energy was zapped from the building. The walk to our cars was met with little noise, almost silence(for a crowd that size it was pretty depressing). They had a chance to change the game and set a new direction for Roman, but he is still the same old piss.

Evil Vito 04-06-2016 03:03 PM

Having watched it back Lesnar/Ambrose was such a letdown given that I went into the show thinking it could be match of the night. It wasn't even bad, it was just sorta there.

Thinking about it though I probably never should have gotten my expectations high for that match. You can't have a crazy, never-say-die babyface underdog taking a hellacious beating from a nigh-on unstoppable killing machine but keep coming back for more through sheer heart, grit and determination and maybe even possibly winning when later on in the show a McMahon has to take a hellacious beating from a nigh-on unstoppable killing machine but keep coming back for more through sheer heart, grit and determination leading to an insane stunt that ultimately leads to their downfall.

road doggy dogg 04-06-2016 03:04 PM

match just felt like it ended abruptly as it started getting going, felt really strange

Emperor Smeat 04-06-2016 05:15 PM

Voted 6 but feel more like a mix between 6-7 on the scale.

Didn't feel like it was really horrible but it wasn't really good either. Matches were decent to great but the booking decisions for most were really odd. Same for having the extra hour that really wasn't worth it in the end.

Jazzy Foot 04-06-2016 05:15 PM

Slightly above average (average being 5), but the HIAC was just exceptionally boring and not only the worst of the evening, possibly one of the worst Mania matches ever and soured the card imo.

The event itself dragged on for way too long. There's no point in a pre-show IMO, just make the thing four hours start to end.

Same about the HoF, was way too long and no idea why the Freebirds were given so much additional time. Sting deserved extra time but felt like a rushed acceptance speech hardly any acknowledgement of his WCW career.

So overall the issue for me about WM/HoF was the length of the show. I'd happily watch 4 hours or more if it was fun but it just wasn't.

Razzamajazz 04-06-2016 05:28 PM

The only matches I was interested in were the IAC and women's title. The cell match was boring as hell and the women's match seemed a little disappointing. Maybe I was expecting too much. I stopped watching after HHH's entrance.

Nicky Fives 04-06-2016 05:34 PM

8. Loved it all except the predictable main event and to nitpick, Brock/Dean could have been better....

Outsider 04-07-2016 10:41 AM

4.

Found most of the matches quite dull, didn't like the results, had few high points compared to previous shows and mostly I found it to be a bit boring.

Most of what was contained on that show could have been any PPV during the year. It didn't feel special, it didn't feel different and mostly, it just didn't feel good.

Biggest exception to this being the Women's match.

Jari 04-07-2016 11:03 AM

3 - it was dreadful

I don't think any match gave the audience what they wanted and not one could live up to Bayley vs Asuka, let alone Zayn vs Nakamura.

it had an appalling main event, that showed exactly why HHH will always be remembered as a B+ wrestler in the eyes of anyone who is not his friend or under his employ, to top off a show that ran way too long and did nothing for almost any of the talent who work the 300 day schedule.

Heisenberg 04-07-2016 01:47 PM

The only reason people stuck around for the main event was because they thought Seth Rollins was going to run in and cause a scenario that had a story-like feel to it(pretty much a lot to ask for these days) and choose between HHH and his old friend Roman.


^^^ That spot would have sugar sealed the PPV, Seth would be over as piss helping out a Shield buddy, people would tolerate Roman more and HHH would be toted as a good sport.

XL 04-07-2016 03:24 PM

I kinda feel this Mania had the chance to be the start of something interesting, a move in a different direction but they didn't pull the trigger. Again.

The whole deal with Shane taking over, or with something interesting happening in the Main Event, but again nothing.

The Brock-Ambrose match should have been a Last Man Standing given the way it was built, Ambrose should have come just a little short and would have given him a boost even in a losing effort. Unfortunately, the Taker-Shane stuff ended up over shadowing.

Really disliked the stuff with the AE guys squashing the LON/Wyatt's. And then the next night on Raw we get the start of a programme between factions who got their asses handed to them. Great.

Raw felt really weird too. I was expecting a big shift in direction, but we got barely ready NXT guys being called up instead.

6/10

SlickyTrickyDamon 04-08-2016 12:19 AM

Sort of wish I had left but really wanted to boo the fuck outta Roman Reigns. Could have probably beat the traffic and a hefty uber surge charge. Corbin winning the Battle Royal gave me enough to stay though.

Enzo and Cass are ready, willing and gable for the main roster.

Going and atmosphere I'd say an eight all together.

Great Ladder Match, AJ/Jericho and the Women's Championship match. Those three put on the match of the night in my opinion.

Points taken away for the main event and the big board being used to feed lines for the crowd to say. Also the board not showing all of the action all of the time.


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